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Tree Huffer posted:I will never understand the love for Heartcatch Precure, but I'd definitely recommend Smile, Suite, and Splash Star if you want some Sailor Moon-esque shows in the Precure lineup. Precure's an odd one, because it was originally meant to be a magical girl equivalent of DBZ, but after Precure 5 it started becoming really traditional magical girl style. I always thought PreCure was Toei riding on the coattails of the massively successful Sailormoon and eventually following the proven formula of tokusatsu in airing each new season as a completely new show that shares similar elements that could conceivably be run in-perpetuity. Also, an IP that they owned exclusively to sell licensed merchandise marketed towards girls. Even though there's that image about Futari wa also being marketed towards older/otaku guys, it doesn't really feel that way especially as the seasons progress.
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I never watched the first season properly so when I saw this comic I thought it was exaggerated. Nope  Also the fillers are getting pretty tiring. Maybe I should use that essentials list after all... Edit: Sailor Moon with Chibi-Moon's voice is so weird CHiRAL fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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Sep 27, 2013 13:57
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CHiRAL posted:I never watched the first season properly so when I saw this comic I thought it was exaggerated. Nope I think even the characters themselves go "This gotta be a trap!" several times whenever the villains do something like that yet the also fall into the trap every time as well  Kunzite even pulls the same poo poo like 3 times. Apparently they never think longer than: A) Trigger trap deliberately! B) ...uuhuhhhhhhhhh HELP TUXEDO KAMEN  Of course, if we are going down that rabbit hole (erhm) you have to wonder why Jadeite didn't just take his energy from somewhere else but the town Sailor Moon lives in, as his stated job had nothing to do with her (Silver Crystal finding was someone else's gig). Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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Sep 27, 2013 19:36
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Potsticker posted:I always thought PreCure was Toei riding on the coattails of the massively successful Sailormoon and eventually following the proven formula of tokusatsu in airing each new season as a completely new show that shares similar elements that could conceivably be run in-perpetuity. Also, an IP that they owned exclusively to sell licensed merchandise marketed towards girls. Toei has been producing shoujo anime for TV Asahi on a (usually) yearly basis since Sally the Witch in 1966. Sailormoon and PreCure are part of a long-standing tradition.
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I wasn't trying to say it was the first or only magical girl show! Just that Sailormoon had 200 episodes(!) and that PreCure was the next big thing.
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Out of curiosity, why does the English speaking fnadom call it Precure? "Pretty Cure" is freaking 2 letters longer, it doesn't make sense. Edit: Although, come to think of it, it's only like 3 characters longer in Japanese 
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Potsticker posted:I wasn't trying to say it was the first or only magical girl show! Just that Sailormoon had 200 episodes(!) and that PreCure was the next big thing. Ojamajo DoReMi also had >200 episodes and was made by Toei after the Sailor Moon anime but before Precure! EDIT: A Pinball Wizard posted:Out of curiosity, why does the English speaking fnadom call it Precure? "Pretty Cure" is freaking 2 letters longer, it doesn't make sense. It's always been consistently pronounced Purikyua and past a certain point they started officially naming new series (Whatever) Precure while ignoring that it was any kind of contraction. wateyad fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Sep 28, 2013 |
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Sep 28, 2013 02:48
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Out of curiosity, why does the English speaking fnadom call it Precure? "Pretty Cure" is freaking 2 letters longer, it doesn't make sense. Because that's what the title says!  EDIT: Whoops, thought you were asking the opposite!  wateyad posted:Ojamajo DoReMi also had >200 episodes and was made by Toei after the Sailor Moon anime but before Precure! Weird, I had always thought DoReMi was pre-Sailormoon. 
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Out of curiosity, why does the English speaking fnadom call it Precure? "Pretty Cure" is freaking 2 letters longer, it doesn't make sense.
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Sep 28, 2013 05:52
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I don't know, I've always thought PreCure sounded dumb. Pretty Cure sounds a bit silly, but it's a show about magical girls punching poo poo, that's a given.
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Sep 28, 2013 06:18
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 Well, the titles say Precure now.
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To be fair, my experience with Pretty Cure begins and ends 5 years ago with the names of fansubs which all had "pretty cure" on them. I didn't reaize that "precure" was pretty much official at this point. Anyway, Sailor Moon 
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Sep 28, 2013 06:23
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After extensive research, here's where the english switched: 
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Sep 28, 2013 06:32
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We need a dedicated PreCure thread.
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MagicalDuck posted:We need a dedicated PreCure thread.
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MagicalDuck posted:We need a dedicated PreCure thread. I don't see why at least we don't get a thread each season like any other anime. Unless Zorak doesn't want it for some reason. He seems down in general on precure in the season threads.
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Endorph posted:We shoudl combine the Sailor Moon and Madoka Magica threads into one unholy being. 
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Sep 28, 2013 08:21
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ConanThe3rd posted:We can call it Walpurgis Night.
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Potsticker posted:I don't see why at least we don't get a thread each season like any other anime. Unless Zorak doesn't want it for some reason. He seems down in general on precure in the season threads. Honestly, I think he hates magical girl anime in general. He gassed the Nanoha thread, which had zero creepy stuff in it. I'd understand closing it if the posters were being gross, but it was mostly 'befriending' jokes and commentary on beam-spam.
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MagicalDuck posted:Honestly, I think he hates magical girl anime in general. He gassed the Nanoha thread, which had zero creepy stuff in it. I'd understand closing it if the posters were being gross, but it was mostly 'befriending' jokes and commentary on beam-spam. It was poster after poster talking about how Nanoha subverted the magical girl genre and was some seminal work in that genre, with Madoka constantly being mentioned as well. It was trite and meaningless bullshit and Zorak summed it up best. Zorak posted:This is dumb as hell and once again a sign that folks sure like talking about poo poo they have no idea about.
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Glad that's done with then back to Sailor Moon talk in the Sailor Moon thread The filler aliens are dopey as gently caress, some of their episodes are downright hilarious! I still can't wait to see Chibi-Usa though, I think I liked her so much because shes pure evil 
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I still don't know why Usagi thought it was a good idea to name her child after herself.
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Dads do it all the time, why not Moon Princesses? Maybe she's a fan of the George Foreman Naming Scheme.
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a kitten posted:Dads do it all the time, why not Moon Princesses? Maybe she's a fan of the George Foreman Naming Scheme. Are you implying that in the time of the Crystal Millennium the Usagi Grill is a thing? Because I think that's what you're implying.
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I probably could have worded that opening post better, to be fair, or better explained why I felt it fell under that after he posted. On-topic, I was watching some of R a few days ago, and man, that one black-haired member of the sisters' dub voice is just awful. Justin_Brett fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Sep 28, 2013 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:Are you implying that in the time of the Crystal Millennium the Usagi Grill is a thing?
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TheKingofSprings posted:Are you implying that in the time of the Crystal Millennium the Usagi Grill is a thing? I didn't mean to, but now I'm retroactively claiming to have meant that all along. But, just in case you didn't know, Mr. Foreman has five sons--all named George.
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I just saw Ep. 51 . . . So how does Usagi see Queen Serenity vs. her normal mom? She seems to acknowledge both of them as her mom? Being Usagi must be confusing as gently caress. Also I got the new poseable figure of Sailor Moon and it's really rad, would highly recommend if you are into that kind of thing at all. 
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According to a French magazine, the anime remake was delayed due to creative differences between Toei & Naoko. Take it with a grain of salt but this isn't the first time foreign news sources have talked about Toei stuff way before Toei ever did. Hell, we don't even know for sure if Toei is the studio on the new show.
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It wouldn't surprise me, since she had a lot of problems with the original anime, didn't she?
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Endorph posted:It wouldn't surprise me, since she had a lot of problems with the original anime, didn't she? Heck, it's rumored that she's the reason why the west hasn't gotten a rerelease of the original anime. Apparently Toei is blameless for that decision; the fault lies with either her, the publisher Kodansha, or both.
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Tell me more about this creator/anime drama, seems interesting.
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Episode 53: Mamoru and Usagi pretty much steal a baby. Seriously who lets a couple of teenagers take care of a stranger's baby. 
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Out of curiosity, why does the English speaking fnadom call it Precure? "Pretty Cure" is freaking 2 letters longer, it doesn't make sense. It's not how it's written, it's how it sounds. "Pu-ri" and "kyu-a" are both two syllables, so they fit better in a song, like in the first opening. Additionally: Fu/Ta/Ri/Wa Pu/Ri/Kyu/A is a perfect rhyme, making it much catchier and, again, better suited for a jingle in the opening. It was used like that from the first line of the first theme. Take a listen and you should see what I'm saying right away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX836fYQL4E (yes that's right, I'm saying that Japanese people think "cure" rhymes with "wa")
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Pimpmust posted:Tell me more about this creator/anime drama, seems interesting. Most of what I know comes from notes in the 5th manga artbook (the one corresponding to the Sailor Stars arc). Each of these quotes is text written about a different drawing in the artbook. Naoko Takeuchi posted:"I really wanted to see Kakyuu-sama’s Sailor Senshi figure in the anime. Always mysterious, why Toei didn’t put her in?" Naoko Takeuchi posted:"The Sailor Starlights were supposed to have even more minor roles than the akuma. So when it looked like they were gonna get leading roles in the anime, I was totally surprised! Even more surprising, before transforming into Sailor Senshi they were men?! I was really shocked to learn that." Naoko Takeuchi posted:"Like in the manga, I thought the anime would also feature these costumes, so why did Toei not put them in??? Surely (as it always is) I have no idea what goes on with the staff on the television side of things." Naoko Takeuchi posted:"I really wanted to see Sailor Cosmos in the anime." You can probably see the recurring theme. The Stars arc in the anime is probably furthest from the manga then the rest. It also tanked the anime ratings (a slide that started with SuperS, probably mostly due to the removal of well liked characters from S who were present in manga-SuperS but not the anime...). There's a few other things - IIRC it was brought up in an interview - but it was made pretty clear she was dissatisfied with the direction the anime took the last season(s). Found one of the interview quotes. This is from SDCC 1998, which Naoko visited as a guest. quote:Q: There is some controversy over the character Haruka. Was she a man who transformed into a woman when she became Sailor Uranus? aers fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Oct 1, 2013 |
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aers posted:Q: There is some controversy over the character Haruka. Was she a man who transformed into a woman when she became Sailor Uranus? Back then, there was a not-usubstantial group of fans who were absolutely horrified that there could be lesbians in their animes, so they insisted that Haruka was actually Prince Uranus back in the Moon Kingdom, but she had been reincarnated as a woman, so her relationship with Michiru totally wasn't gay. That question was more about fans being dumb as plot differences between anime and manga. XboxPants posted:It's not how it's written, it's how it sounds. "Pu-ri" and "kyu-a" are both two syllables, so they fit better in a song, like in the first opening. Additionally: I know what the kana are. That's not what I was asking. I was asking why, if it was romanized as Pretty Cure (which it officialy was, as of Futari Wa, which is the last one I ever watched) English-speaking fans were calling it PreCure. Somebody beat you to the answer like 5 posts above yours!
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HondaCivet posted:Episode 53: Mamoru and Usagi pretty much steal a baby. Seriously who lets a couple of teenagers take care of a stranger's baby. To be fair even if they're like, BFFs who lets Usagi take care of a baby? I mean either way someone fucks up in that exchange.
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If anyone watches Adventure time, you may already have noticed this, but I got a laugh when I saw it. 
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Potsticker posted:I don't see why at least we don't get a thread each season like any other anime. Unless Zorak doesn't want it for some reason. He seems down in general on precure in the season threads. Well, have you ever tried making one?
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jonjonaug posted:Well, have you ever tried making one? Nope, but that's as good enough as a reason to give it a shot!
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