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For the record, Matt is totally full of poo poo about Sunday in the Park with George. 
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Oct 10, 2013 03:29
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Metal Loaf posted:The one on the right is a spoonerism away from that "the kike known as Sabretooth" misprint in Wolverine. What's all this, then?
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Oct 10, 2013 03:49
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So, to recap: Rob Liefeld ripped off his Marvel ripoff of a DC character...for a DC book. Don't think about that too hard, or your ears will start bleeding.theflyingorc posted:What's all this, then? It was supposed to be killer, somebody tried to fix what they thought was a smudge or typo, and that's what they came up with.
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Oct 10, 2013 04:24
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Oct 10, 2013 04:46
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Say Nothing posted:Homage or just plagiarism? I did an overlap comparison and Liefeld wasn't up to his old lightbox tricks (or what is now known as "Landing"). There's a lot of differences. It is likely that he referenced the cover for layout, but it's completely redrawn.
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Oct 10, 2013 04:51
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Say Nothing posted:Homage or just plagiarism? Whoa, the characters in the Liefeld drawing sport no pouches! 
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Oct 10, 2013 04:57
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Random Stranger posted:I did an overlap comparison and Liefeld wasn't up to his old lightbox tricks (or what is now known as "Landing"). There's a lot of differences. It is likely that he referenced the cover for layout, but it's completely redrawn. 
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Oct 10, 2013 05:01
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Maybe they're secretly kangaroos?
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Oct 10, 2013 05:02
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Again there is no way that was not intentional. Like even their story of someone trying to fix it. Like wait what?? You saw it smudged and assumed they were trying to write kike.
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Oct 10, 2013 05:21
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Hollis posted:Again there is no way that was not intentional. Like even their story of someone trying to fix it. Like wait what?? You saw it smudged and assumed they were trying to write kike. Well, who's the character giving the monologue? The Red Skull?
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Oct 10, 2013 05:28
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Random Stranger posted:I did an overlap comparison and Liefeld wasn't up to his old lightbox tricks (or what is now known as "Landing"). There's a lot of differences. It is likely that he referenced the cover for layout, but it's completely redrawn. I could have told you that just looking at the feet.
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Oct 10, 2013 05:58
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Pretty sure it's a homage since Liefeld's signature on that Hawkman cover has "AFTER GC" below it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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Oct 10, 2013 06:32
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Random Stranger posted:I did an overlap comparison and Liefeld wasn't up to his old lightbox tricks (or what is now known as "Landing"). There's a lot of differences. It is likely that he referenced the cover for layout, but it's completely redrawn. Regardless of whether he traced... Both covers by both people have terrible, terrible anatomy and perspective.
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Oct 10, 2013 07:22
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Tony Stark gets a little jealous of other people not having life-threatening heart problems, so he puts a nuclear-powered pacemaker into Bruce Banner and things don't go as expected.  Invincible Iron Man #132 (this issue has some bloody amazing onomatopoeia)
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Oct 10, 2013 08:41
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Hollis posted:Again there is no way that was not intentional. Like even their story of someone trying to fix it. Like wait what?? You saw it smudged and assumed they were trying to write kike. I'm not sure. When I heard about this story (it was some time in the mid to late 90s) I didn't know what the word "kike" meant. I didn't know it was a derogeratory name at all. Hell I didn't even know it was a word. I think it's entirely possible someone was looking at a really smudged script, had spent ages trying to work out what word it was supposed to be, and just decided to go with whatever it looked like to get it done. It's completely plausible that this was, while unfortunate, unintentional.
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Oct 10, 2013 09:24
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The Question IRL posted:I'm not sure. When I heard about this story (it was some time in the mid to late 90s) I didn't know what the word "kike" meant. I didn't know it was a derogeratory name at all. Hell I didn't even know it was a word. It was a Brian K. Vaughan fill-in script (based on a plot by Todd DeZago, and one of the earliest stories he had professionally published for either of the Big Two); it originally read "the assassin known as Sabretooth" and the editor changed it to "killer" which the letterer mistook for "kike".
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Oct 10, 2013 09:41
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Oct 10, 2013 15:55
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Metal Loaf posted:It was a Brian K. Vaughan fill-in script (based on a plot by Todd DeZago, and one of the earliest stories he had professionally published for either of the Big Two); it originally read "the assassin known as Sabretooth" and the editor changed it to "killer" which the letterer mistook for "kike". From that same page. This is beyond amazing:
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Oct 10, 2013 19:04
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Crossposting myself from the X-Men thread. X-Men #6: Psylocke has to fight while hanging on to Jubilee's kid.TwoPair posted:Here ya go!
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Oct 10, 2013 22:28
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I am so out of the loop - I hadn't even really been aware Jubilee was a vampire, now she has a kid, too? How does that even work?
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Oct 10, 2013 22:42
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Jerusalem posted:I am so out of the loop - I hadn't even really been aware Jubilee was a vampire, now she has a kid, too? How does that even work? Adopted. Sublime's sister was riding in him or something, and she just kept him after the mission she found him on.
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Oct 10, 2013 22:45
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Can't wait for the kid to be revealed as a Skrull clone of Magneto.
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Oct 10, 2013 23:18
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Majuju posted:Can't wait for the kid to be revealed as a Skrull clone of Magneto. Who's secretly Xorn pretending to be the Skrull clone of Magneto. Pretending to be Shogo.
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Oct 10, 2013 23:25
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WickedHate posted:Who's secretly Xorn pretending to be the Skrull clone of Magneto. Who is in fact his heretofore unmentioned secret twin brother, who's actually a Space Phantom who simply thinks he's a Skrull.
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Oct 10, 2013 23:29
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We can go deeper. Marvel can go deeper. He will be revealed to be every being, alive or dead, in the Marvel universe.
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Oct 10, 2013 23:31
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I just think it's funny that Jubilee of all people is one of the only Kid Superheroes (tm) who actually aged.
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Oct 10, 2013 23:32
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Kitty aged too! Well, I guess, depending on how old she was supposed to be when she joined the X-Men.
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Oct 10, 2013 23:34
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Well one of the Power Pack is old enough to be in superhero rehab for a bit. While her older brother is still a kid and palling around with the FF. Marvel's weird that way.
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Oct 10, 2013 23:44
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SynthOrange posted:Well one of the Power Pack is old enough to be in superhero rehab for a bit. He's not actually supposed to be a kid, it seems to be a stylistic choice that has just kind of become status quo. When he first joined the FF he was drawn to be more of an older teenager/young adult.
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Oct 11, 2013 00:14
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Duh, everyone knows girls mature faster.
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Oct 11, 2013 00:15
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TwoPair posted:Kitty aged too! Well, I guess, depending on how old she was supposed to be when she joined the X-Men. I'm pretty sure Kitty has aged and de-aged a few times.
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Oct 11, 2013 01:32
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WickedHate posted:We can go deeper. Marvel can go deeper. The final Marvel comic ever published will end with that child staring into a snow globe.
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Oct 11, 2013 02:28
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muscles like this? posted:He's not actually supposed to be a kid, it seems to be a stylistic choice that has just kind of become status quo. When he first joined the FF he was drawn to be more of an older teenager/young adult. When he joined up, hadn't he just gotten his degree from college or something, and Reed was all,"Awww that's cute, you've got one degree  " ?
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goatface posted:Duh, everyone knows girls mature faster. Avengers Academy #26.  Molly-blocked! They were in dating in #29.  Also, Rockslide was right to make fun of Transonic for wandering around naked. Does she not realize her butt is showing? Generation Hope #12.  Say Nothing fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Oct 11, 2013 04:25
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muscles like this? posted:He's not actually supposed to be a kid, it seems to be a stylistic choice that has just kind of become status quo. When he first joined the FF he was drawn to be more of an older teenager/young adult. The thing is, Alex is two years older than Julie. Alex is roughly 17 or 18 in some issues of FF while in others he seems to be about 14 or 15. Julie is 22 or 23 in her initial appearances in Runaways before getting deaged a bit for later appearances involving them like in Young Avengers. Katie, on the other hand, is always 5 even when she's supposed to be the same age as Franklin who seems to have been allowed to become about 8. Basically, there was no coordination or checking on how old the Power kids were supposed to be and every just makes them the age they want for their story.
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Oct 11, 2013 05:55
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Warning: Exposure to alien power sources may cause premature aging, stunted growth, inconsistent appearances.
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Oct 11, 2013 06:10
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Random Stranger posted:The thing is, Alex is two years older than Julie. Alex is roughly 17 or 18 in some issues of FF while in others he seems to be about 14 or 15. Julie is 22 or 23 in her initial appearances in Runaways before getting deaged a bit for later appearances involving them like in Young Avengers. Katie, on the other hand, is always 5 even when she's supposed to be the same age as Franklin who seems to have been allowed to become about 8. Basically, there was no coordination or checking on how old the Power kids were supposed to be and every just makes them the age they want for their story. Hazards of time travel.
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I still hate that they made Julie Power and Karolina a couple. I even called that stupid poo poo when they announced that the Runaways would be in AA.
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Rhyno posted:I still hate that they made Julie Power and Karolina a couple. I even called that stupid poo poo when they announced that the Runaways would be in AA. I wouldn't have minded it as much if their entire reason for making Julie a lesbian didn't boil down to "Well, she makes rainbows when she flies. Rainbows are like, totally gay, right?" Seriously, I think somebody literally says that in the comic.
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