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Bloody posted:the correct date format is YYYYMMDDhhmmss because it is the only format where time is monotonically increasing uhhh where is the tz info
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uG posted:uhhh where is the tz info timezone problems are independent from time problems
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Bloody posted:time is monotonically increasing only if you're using TAI or something
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uG posted:uhhh where is the tz info utc now, utc tomorrow, utc forever
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prefect posted:est now, est tomorrow, est forever
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prefect posted:utc now, utc tomorrow, utc forever timezones are for the weak
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Bloody posted:timezone problems are independent from time problems i dont think ive ever worked on something involving time that didn't involve timezones. well anything important
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Oct 11, 2013 16:30
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i now know that tbc works in the same timezone as me fml
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Oct 11, 2013 16:34
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uG posted:i dont think ive ever worked on something involving time that didn't involve timezones. well anything important i dont think ive ever worked on something involving computers that didn't involve transistors but that doesn't mean transistors are horrible poo poo for nerds
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Oct 11, 2013 16:37
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the difference is i am working with the times and timezones, you aren't working with the transistors jfc
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Oct 11, 2013 16:39
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uG posted:the difference is i am working with the times and timezones, you aren't working with the transistors jfc actually im an electrical engineer so
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Oct 11, 2013 16:40
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alright im really bored of timechat
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Oct 11, 2013 16:41
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Oct 11, 2013 16:42
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hubris.height posted:hail demonlord
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hubris.height posted:
dude needs to work on his parens
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Oct 11, 2013 16:45
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all timezone problems are actually daylight savings time problems. timezones would be easy if the offset was constant.
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Oct 11, 2013 16:46
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Shaggar posted:all timezone problems are actually daylight savings time problems. timezones would be easy if the offset was constant. they also change all the loving time.
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Oct 11, 2013 16:48
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eliminate dst now
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Oct 11, 2013 16:50
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Shaggar posted:all timezone problems are actually daylight savings time problems. timezones would be easy if the offset was constant. still nope
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Oct 11, 2013 16:54
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time
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Shaggar posted:all timezone problems are actually daylight savings time problems. timezones would be easy if the offset was constant. lol nope
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:they also change all the loving time. up until relatively recently (maybe the 70s-80s?) there were timezones that were at offsets like -0:44:30
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Oct 11, 2013 16:58
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how is this a problem? people can still pick their timezone
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Oct 11, 2013 16:59
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but at least the DST transitions usually happen on the same day each year, right? and surely there's only one forward jump and one backward jump? nope gently caress you
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Oct 11, 2013 17:05
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# From Paul Eggert (2007-08-17): # Since 1970, most of Indiana has been like America/Indiana/Indianapolis, # with the following exceptions: # # - Gibson, Jasper, Lake, LaPorte, Newton, Porter, Posey, Spencer, # Vandenburgh, and Warrick counties have been like America/Chicago. # # - Dearborn and Ohio counties have been like America/New_York. # # - Clark, Floyd, and Harrison counties have been like # America/Kentucky/Louisville. # # - Crawford, Daviess, Dubois, Knox, Martin, Perry, Pike, Pulaski, Starke, # and Switzerland counties have their own time zone histories as noted below. #
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time zone choice isn't a problem, only offset changes for a time zone are a problem.
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Oct 11, 2013 17:15
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yaoi prophet posted:but at least the DST transitions usually happen on the same day each year, right? and surely there's only one forward jump and one backward jump? that's exactly why the timezone database is both amazing and frightening its basically a shitload of comments containing historical research about time zone and DST time in many places and for many years, informed by anecdotes, political decrees, or even folklore and then a shitload of rules to describe all this in a machine readable format
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Shaggar posted:time zone choice isn't a problem, only offset changes for a time zone are a problem. They've all changed over time. One day we will eliminate leap seconds, daylight savings, and tai offsets. ONE DAY I WANT TO BELIEVE
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tef posted:# From Paul Eggert (2007-08-17): the politics behind this is dumb as gently caress. indiana didn't go daylight savings when the rest of the country did. stayed straight up "farmer's time" through the 00s. wen a republican became governor on a platform of "business friendliness" he leaned on republicans in the legislature to shut people up about loving dst the legislature decided this daylight savings / farmer's time poo poo was too controversial, it was too hard to choose between new york and chicago time. so they made timezones into local option. everyone was mandated to have daylight saving, but individual counties could opt for either eastern or central time. and some of them switched twice: eastern standard TO central daylight TO eastern daylight this hosed up the tz db real bad and made poo poo really confusing for a few years tl;dr: gently caress indiana politics. local option timezones are a bad, bad idea Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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# From Peter Ilieve (1994-07-06): # # On 17 Jan 1994 the Independent, a UK quality newspaper, had a piece about # historical vistas along the Thames in west London. There was a photo # and a sketch map showing some of the sightlines involved. One paragraph # of the text said: # # 'An old stone obelisk marking a forgotten terrestrial meridian stands # beside the river at Kew. In the 18th century, before time and longitude # was standardised by the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, scholars observed # this stone and the movement of stars from Kew Observatory nearby. They # made their calculations and set the time for the Horse Guards and Parliament, # but now the stone is obscured by scrubwood and can only be seen by walking # along the towpath within a few yards of it.' # # I have a one inch to one mile map of London and my estimate of the stone's # position is 51 deg. 28' 30" N, 0 deg. 18' 45" W. The longitude should # be within about +-2". The Ordnance Survey grid reference is TQ172761. # # [This yields GMTOFF = -0:01:15 for London LMT in the 18th century.]
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tef posted:They've all changed over time. i bet it's going to be even more fun when/if we colonize other planets/moons
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Oct 11, 2013 17:31
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cant wait to be on eastern standard earth moon time
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tef posted:They've all changed over time. yaoi prophet posted:i bet it's going to be even more fun when/if we colonize other planets/moons stardate 48315.6
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yaoi prophet posted:i bet it's going to be even more fun when/if we colonize other planets/moons vector clocks taught in elementary school
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Oct 11, 2013 18:05
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"yeah it's GMT-17.43 on that planet but gravitational acceleration offsets it a an increasing N µs every local trillion ms for Earth"
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everybody should just use one timezone and one timezone only and get over their stupid 'ughhg i work at 9 and leave at 5' attitude
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Oct 11, 2013 18:33
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might i suggest UTC as the one true timezone with everything else being a huge pile of bullshit
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the british empire clearly did not go far enough with their suppression of false timezone beliefs
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:the british empire clearly did not go far enough with their suppression
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i remember PSO on dreamcast and its usage of swatch internet time http://www.swatch.com/zz_en/internettime/ 
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