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That argument lasted my entire commute to work today.
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Oct 22, 2013 13:55
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But it DOESN'T MATTER BRYAN! Yes, but the angle has already started, so if we pretend... BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER!
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Oct 22, 2013 14:12
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They should have had that argument on a PPV instead of giving it away
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Oct 22, 2013 14:19
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I only resubbed to the site on Monday, I never realised how much I missed those arguments.
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Oct 22, 2013 14:23
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which show was that argument from? e: nevermind, just started this morning's show and holy poo poo Truther Vandross fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 14:32
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Bryan seemed BAFFLED when Dave told him the actual attendance was 'just under 3000' and tried to follow up by asking if that was just counting the paid attendees.sportsgenius86 posted:which show was that argument from?
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Oct 22, 2013 14:35
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i wish TNA would go out of business.
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Oct 22, 2013 14:37
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Karmine posted:That argument lasted my entire commute to work today. Good to know I wasn't the only one.
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Oct 22, 2013 14:41
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The Shaman of Cum posted:i wish TNA would go out of business.
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Oct 22, 2013 14:41
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The wrestling business would probably be healthier if TNA died. More quality talent available to WWE's competition is a good thing. WWE probably respects ROH more than they do TNA.
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Oct 22, 2013 15:54
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there's no such thing as competition anymore and 95% of the people in TNA would get paid better not in TNA and the ones that wouldn't are turds so who cares
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Oct 22, 2013 15:55
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I guess this should go in the TNA thread sorry all
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Oct 22, 2013 15:55
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It was interesting when Dave said that he was wrong when he commented that Vince probably didn't care about TNA, that Vince actually pays a lot of attention to the company.
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Oct 22, 2013 16:43
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triplexpac posted:It was interesting when Dave said that he was wrong when he commented that Vince probably didn't care about TNA, that Vince actually pays a lot of attention to the company. Hey, it's probably worth a laugh at for Vince
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Oct 22, 2013 16:45
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triplexpac posted:It was interesting when Dave said that he was wrong when he commented that Vince probably didn't care about TNA, that Vince actually pays a lot of attention to the company. Perigryn fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 16:59
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e: ^^^ gahhhhhhhhhhhtriplexpac posted:It was interesting when Dave said that he was wrong when he commented that Vince probably didn't care about TNA, that Vince actually pays a lot of attention to the company. Considering their tactless approach to storylines, frequent encouraging of retarded spots and turn-the-other-cheek mentality toward drug usage, I wouldn't be surprised if the attention paid is primarily from a protection standpoint. Whether they like it or not, they're affected by TNA if TNA's incompetence leads to something of public concern. Also, to laugh at people who flee WWE for that hellhole because Vince.
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Oct 22, 2013 17:45
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Pretty much. If Kurt Angle died or hit someone while drunk, it would be "ex-WWE star Kurt Angle" and not "TNA star." So TNA's awfulness is definitely worth keeping up on I suppose.
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Oct 22, 2013 17:47
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Tato posted:Pretty much. If Kurt Angle died or hit someone while drunk, it would be "ex-WWE star Kurt Angle" and not "TNA star." So TNA's awfulness is definitely worth keeping up on I suppose. Ex might not be included.
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Oct 22, 2013 19:08
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Good god that argument today on Observer Radio. That is legend.
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Oct 22, 2013 21:19
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I'm not subscribed to the observer, what exactly was the argument and how beautifully terrible was it?
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Oct 22, 2013 21:35
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NienNunb posted:I'm not subscribed to the observer, what exactly was the argument and how beautifully terrible was it? Remember what we were talking about with how Bryan has been way too charitable to TNA since Lagana took over? This was 20 minutes of Bryan coming up with ways that they could not screw up the Styles angle while Dave laughed at him, more or less.
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Oct 22, 2013 21:40
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^^^that tooNienNunb posted:I'm not subscribed to the observer, what exactly was the argument and how beautifully terrible was it? ....repeat for 17 and a half minutes.
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Oct 22, 2013 21:41
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TNA is copying the "CM Punk wins the title and leaves" storyline, but have already announced an AJ vs Bully Ray rematch on Thursday. Bryan was angry that TNA, who said they were going to do the storyline "better than WWE" is already blowing it the first week, while Dave said that whether or not they blow it is completely irrelevant because TNA is stupid, bush-league garbage and the angle never had any chance of succeeding in the first place because it's a copy-cat angle. Bryan agreed, but said that since they've started the angle already, they should at least do it right. Dave said it doesn't matter because it won't increase TNA's ratings one bit. Repeat 200 times, throw in some trademark awful analogies from Dave and Bryan to complete the recipe.
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Oct 22, 2013 21:42
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Karmine posted:That argument lasted my entire commute to work today. HulkaMatt posted:Good to know I wasn't the only one. I hate you both.
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Oct 22, 2013 21:42
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Tato posted:TNA is copying the "CM Punk wins the title and leaves" storyline, but have already announced an AJ vs Bully Ray rematch on Thursday. Bryan was angry that TNA, who said they were going to do the storyline "better than WWE" is already blowing it the first week, while Dave said that whether or not they blow it is completely irrelevant because TNA is stupid, bush-league garbage and the angle never had any chance of succeeding in the first place because it's a copy-cat angle. Bryan agreed, but said that since they've started the angle already, they should at least do it right. Dave said it doesn't matter because it won't increase TNA's ratings one bit. Repeat 200 times, throw in some trademark awful analogies from Dave and Bryan to complete the recipe. TNA failed in doing the angle better than WWE right out of the gate, because the reason it worked for Punk is that it always felt like he wasn't quite a main eventer, despite the world championship reigns. Whereas, with AJ, he's ALWAYS garnered marquee treatment. He was trusted to pin the co-owner of the company for the word title during his first year in the company. In CM Punk's first year, he got pinned by Bob Holly and came within a inch of getting fired. Punk had legitimate gripes, AJ came off a whiny pussy. There's also the fact that even if you disagree with the sentiment that Punk had a legit gripe, Punk is a good enough promo to make people believe in what he's saying. The less said about AJ's promo, the better. And really if you stop to think, has AJ ever had memorable promos? No.
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Oct 22, 2013 22:23
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I can't wait to hear this argument again on the B&V show, and not hear about it again when I skip the Todd show.
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Oct 22, 2013 22:41
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El Gallinero Gros posted:TNA failed in doing the angle better than WWE right out of the gate, because the reason it worked for Punk is that it always felt like he wasn't quite a main eventer, despite the world championship reigns. Whereas, with AJ, he's ALWAYS garnered marquee treatment. He was trusted to pin the co-owner of the company for the word title during his first year in the company. In CM Punk's first year, he got pinned by Bob Holly and came within a inch of getting fired. Punk had legitimate gripes, AJ came off a whiny pussy. There's also the fact that even if you disagree with the sentiment that Punk had a legit gripe, Punk is a good enough promo to make people believe in what he's saying. The less said about AJ's promo, the better. And really if you stop to think, has AJ ever had memorable promos? No. Also Styles is the company guy. Imagine if WWE did the Punk angle with Randy Orton complaining about how the company is broken and how he's never been given his credit because of it.
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Oct 22, 2013 23:01
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oatgan posted:Also Styles is the company guy. Imagine if WWE did the Punk angle with Randy Orton complaining about how the company is broken and how he's never been given his credit because of it. I can't decide what would happen if Orton had done that: Me laughing my rear end off, or shooting my TV Elvis-style.
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Oct 22, 2013 23:13
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oatgan posted:Also Styles is the company guy. Imagine if WWE did the Punk angle with Randy Orton complaining about how the company is broken and how he's never been given his credit because of it. I don't know if Bryan is being soft on Lagana when it seems like Bischoff has the final say. But there was a decided lack of "That's the dumbest god drat excuse I have ever heard!" when Lagana smugly tweeted that TNA never said the BFG Series was round robin.
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Oct 23, 2013 00:17
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On today's show Dave was talking about how it took years for Shawn Michaels to get over while HHH kept getting pushed because he was tall and had good hair. Dave on HHH: "He got more chances than most people who didn't click on their first 5 or 6 pushes would get". I laughed so, so, so hard at that line.
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Oct 23, 2013 01:28
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I have to agree with Bryan on that argument. If you have a TV program (wrestling, drama, etc) and present a storyline for weeks that doesn't go over, you should still try to follow up on it and give it a proper ending instead of dropping it out of the blue. All you're going to do is piss off the few viewers you have, making them feel stupid for investing time watching your show to begin with.
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Oct 23, 2013 02:39
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Grant DaNasty posted:I have to agree with Bryan on that argument. If you have a TV program (wrestling, drama, etc) and present a storyline for weeks that doesn't go over, you should still try to follow up on it and give it a proper ending instead of dropping it out of the blue. The problem is Bryan is arguing for some made up storyline that doesn't exist. TNA is doing some stupid storyline that makes sense based on the stupid things they are booking while Bryan is arguing for the storyline he thinks it should be.
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Oct 23, 2013 02:44
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MassRafTer posted:The problem is Bryan is arguing for some made up storyline that doesn't exist. TNA is doing some stupid storyline that makes sense based on the stupid things they are booking while Bryan is arguing for the storyline he thinks it should be. That makes sense. I don't watch TNA, but I've heard Bryan come up with his own conclusions and storylines based who knows what when reviewing shows.
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Oct 23, 2013 02:53
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Grant DaNasty posted:That makes sense. I don't watch TNA, but I've heard Bryan come up with his own conclusions and storylines based who knows what when reviewing shows.
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Oct 23, 2013 07:54
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Bryan was CONVINCED AJ was leaving the company, therefore doing the match on Thursday makes no sense, but Dave pointed out they never said he was leaving after BFG, only that his contract was expiring and he was going to demand more money from Dixie. I think Bryan wasn't paying particularly close attention and was just filling in the blanks with pieces of the Punk storyline.
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Oct 23, 2013 10:24
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Meat Recital posted:Bryan was CONVINCED AJ was leaving the company, therefore doing the match on Thursday makes no sense, but Dave pointed out they never said he was leaving after BFG, only that his contract was expiring and he was going to demand more money from Dixie. I think Bryan wasn't paying particularly close attention and was just filling in the blanks with pieces of the Punk storyline. It's a mixture of both. Dave's right that it was never explicitly stated but Bryan's right in that it could not have been more strongly implied.
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Oct 23, 2013 12:51
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Tonight on the Bryan and Vinny show, when they started discussing Bound For Glory, Bryan brought up someone on Twitter pointing out that maybe AJ's going to make Dixie 'pay' by getting revenge on her for how she's treated him. Bryan scoffed at this and pointed out that AJ meant it in the financial sense because he rubbed his thumb and index finger together and followed up with "Are you that much of a TNA defender that you can't see that?" Eh?? Also, refused to pass any judgement on how overbooked he main event because he still believes that TNA will do the CM Punk angle better on Thursday by them arriving at the arena, AJ not being there and delivering a promo via Skype (thankfully, it didn't turn into a long argument this time).
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Oct 23, 2013 13:16
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what's most likely going to happen is AJ won't show up for the match on this week's episode but he'll come back during the one they tape for next week because they think it'll pop a rating.
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Oct 23, 2013 15:26
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Bryan Alvarez comes off as a dumb person when it comes to TNA. There's no historical precedent with the current creative staff or any previous ones to pull off an angle and stick to it to payoff.
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coconono posted:Bryan Alvarez comes off as a dumb person when it comes to TNA. There's no historical precedent with the current creative staff or any previous ones to pull off an angle and stick to it to payoff. Him and Dave Lagana are friends. He isn't going to Russo-level trash it.
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