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# ? Oct 23, 2013 01:00 |
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# ? May 10, 2024 22:56 |
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MassRafTer posted:Slight change of plan as the Daily Motion playlist was taken down but we'll have the main matches from Havoc 96 starting at 8! Wouldn't it be magical if WWE had some sort of on-demand service where we could watch all these old shows together without having to jump through hoops like this? It really annoys me that it doesn't exist. Quit hogging your sweet library, WWE
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 14:43 |
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triplexpac posted:Wouldn't it be magical if WWE had some sort of on-demand service where we could watch all these old shows together without having to jump through hoops like this? Well they'd get those tapes out but they're too busy editing out all the people they don't like this week. Then next week they have to edit them back in because WWE is cool with them again. basically WWE is 1984 is sports entertainment form.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 15:52 |
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coconono posted:basically WWE is 1984 is sports entertainment form. hunter is over. hunter has always been over
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 22:16 |
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sk posted:hunter is over. hunter has always been over Actually before he got put in DX with HBK he wasn't getting poo poo in terms of heat.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 23:11 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Actually before he got put in DX with HBK he wasn't getting poo poo in terms of heat. What are you talking about, Triple H debuted with DX. Just believe.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 23:15 |
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And DX has never tapped out!
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# ? Oct 24, 2013 00:54 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Actually before he got put in DX with HBK he wasn't getting poo poo in terms of heat.
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# ? Oct 24, 2013 01:05 |
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sk posted:hunter is over. hunter has always been over imagine a face being pedigreed forever
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# ? Oct 24, 2013 01:15 |
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Read the entirety of The Death of WCW today front to back. Blown away at how badly everything went to poo poo. Well recommend it if anyone else hasn't gotten around to it yet. I kind of want to do some dramatic readings of bits and pieces some time, it's loving hilarious. quote:Before we continue, we need to note that none of the following is being made up. This all actually happened, presumably because someone theorized that it would make fans buy tickets and PPVs. Cue an entire story about Ultimate Warrior's return to WCW and the ancestor of LOST's black smoke monster.
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# ? Oct 24, 2013 10:39 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Actually before he got put in DX with HBK he wasn't getting poo poo in terms of heat. I think Chyna got more heat than him.
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# ? Oct 24, 2013 12:58 |
Chyna got over ridiculously quickly, helped in no small part by how for a time she was the most protected person on the roster.
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# ? Oct 24, 2013 13:08 |
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Jefferoo posted:Read the entirety of The Death of WCW today front to back. Blown away at how badly everything went to poo poo. Well recommend it if anyone else hasn't gotten around to it yet. I kind of want to do some dramatic readings of bits and pieces some time, it's loving hilarious. The blow-up doll fiasco was hilarious and that he got injured doing jack poo poo at Fall Brawl 98 in the war games match.
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# ? Oct 24, 2013 19:44 |
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Jefferoo posted:Read the entirety of The Death of WCW today front to back. Blown away at how badly everything went to poo poo. Well recommend it if anyone else hasn't gotten around to it yet. I kind of want to do some dramatic readings of bits and pieces some time, it's loving hilarious. It's saying something that TNA has seemingly never attempted to get Warrior even for a non-wrestling role. Even they won't work with just anyone.
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# ? Oct 25, 2013 21:09 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:It's saying something that TNA has seemingly never attempted to get Warrior even for a non-wrestling role. Even they won't work with just anyone. Has Jim Hellwig ever done commentary? I imagine it would be about the same as getting commentary from the hobo on the street.
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# ? Oct 25, 2013 21:21 |
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pathetic little tramp posted:Has Jim Hellwig ever done commentary? I imagine it would be about the same as getting commentary from the hobo on the street. Uh, excuse me, his name is "Warrior." The best name.
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# ? Oct 25, 2013 23:07 |
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Putting Warrior on commentary would just be inviting FCC fines and hate speech suits.
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# ? Oct 25, 2013 23:11 |
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:Putting Warrior on commentary would just be inviting FCC fines and hate speech suits. It's like when you give Scott Steiner a mic. It'll probably be entertaining but your lawyers may just quit en masse.
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# ? Oct 26, 2013 01:36 |
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:Putting Warrior on commentary would just be inviting FCC fines and hate speech suits. Warrior and AJ Styles on commentary
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# ? Oct 26, 2013 22:12 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:It's saying something that TNA has seemingly never attempted to get Warrior even for a non-wrestling role. Even they won't work with just anyone. Haven't they made overtures but his asking price was absurdly high by even their standards?
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# ? Oct 26, 2013 22:37 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:Haven't they made overtures but his asking price was absurdly high by even their standards? I think you are right, at least it was rumored when he did that match with Orlando Jordan(?)
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# ? Oct 26, 2013 22:39 |
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MassRafTer posted:I think you are right, at least it was rumored when he did that match with Orlando Jordan(?) Yeah I think I remember Orlando being mentioned somewhere in there. Was that before Panda came in?
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# ? Oct 27, 2013 01:14 |
flashy_mcflash posted:Yeah I think I remember Orlando being mentioned somewhere in there. Was that before Panda came in? It was just after Hogan came in, years after Panda was involved.
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# ? Oct 27, 2013 01:16 |
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The August 19, 1996 WO~! FEATURING WCW HOG WILDquote:3. Madusa (Debra Micelli) pinned Bull Nakano (Keiko Nakano) in 5:00 in the winner bashes up the losers' bike. Nakano attacked Madusa with nunchakus at the bell. As Nakano took control, the crowd, having no idea who these women were but being into the bike vs. bike gimmick, started chanting "Harley" since Madusa rode a Harley into the ring (at least I think that's what it was for, since Madusa really doesn't look much at all like Harley Race). They were having a decent match, although rushed, until a totally screwed up finish. Nakano was supposed to do a bridging back suplex and the ref would count, at the count of two Madusa would raise her shoulder and the ref would count three. Anyway, the women did the finish, and ref Randy Eller stopped his count at two. Neither women could figure out why and hesitated. They did the same spot again and again the ref didn't count three. Then a third time, and again Madusa raised her shoulder and the ref counted three but nobody knew it. Sonny Onoo then grabbed a sledgehammer and threatened the Harley. Madusa jumped out of the ring and got the sledgehammer and smashed Bull's Honda a little bit. *1/2 quote:Harlem Heat (Lane & Booker Huffman) retained the WCW tag titles beating the Steiners (Robert & Scott Rechsteiner) in 17:53. Heat got the best heat on the show for all the wrong reasons. I guess those bikers don't like the colored folks. quote:8. Hulk Hogan (Terry Bollea) pinned Giant (Paul Wight) to regain the WCW title in 14:55. Hogan was cheered and the fans were chanting for him as they had no idea about the heel turn. Hogan looked to be about 60 years old as he had obviously dieted down so much for his birthday that his face was drawn and the sun made his body look real old. Hogan stalled early and basically did 60s heel tactics. All the offense by Hogan looked awful and he doesn't bump as a heel so that kills that idea. Giant did the Hogan superman comeback in one of the campiest spots ever in a wrestling match. It was like watching the worst movie ever made--or the worst wrestling match. Well, between that triple decked cage contraption earlier this year and Warrior-Goldust, this match is luckily eliminated for worst match considerations but would be up there in another year. The campiest part of all was Giant doing the Hogan foot to the face, and missing it by a foot. Hall interfered and was slammed off the top rope and choke slammed. Nash got Jimmy Hart's megaphone and then got choke slammed. Hogan got the megaphone and hit Giant with it and scored the pins and got a huge babyface pop. Booty Man, wearing an NWO t-shirt as if he was the fourth guy, showed up with a birthday cake (Hogan turned 43 the next day) and Hogan thanked him. Then Hogan got Nash and Hall to turn on him. Hogan then spray painted NWO on the title belt. With the angle being everyone in WCW was uniting against NWO, it was ridiculous that nobody came to Giant's aid although I guess had they done so it would have gotten in the way of the angle. -*1/2 quote:Page wants to do a deal where he would be the Stevie Richards flunky to Ric Flair, but Flair is said to not be so hot on the idea. Flair would in that scenario be Page's benefactor, since they started a benefactor storyline with no idea where they were going with it. quote:Add Lanny Poffo to the list who are under contract, although there are no plans of using him. Must be nice to be a nephew or brother to a top wrestler in WCW. quote:About a dozen wrestlers from the Gaea promotion will be coming in for a world womens title tournament that'll probably come down to Madusa vs. Chigusa Nagayo. Don't know exactly when, other then it's coming. quote:Highlights of the 8/5 Nitro show ... At one point Sting & Luger went into a vacant limo and found a wreath of flowers sending condolences to the death of WCW. That was a copy of something Jim Cornette sent to Jim Herd years ago for real. Angry smarks of the 90s, aka the letters section! quote:They should have used Dick Murdoch as the third man. Even dead, he's a better worker than Hulk Hogan. Also, Joe Silva writes a letter trashing Pancrase as fake. This issue also features the start of the WO HoF!
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 20:15 |
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I like that in 1996 Hogan was already looking old as hell. 17 years ago. And he is still kind of around.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 20:20 |
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Rodney the Piper posted:The August 19, 1996 WO~! FEATURING WCW HOG WILD gimme dem joe silva words
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 20:25 |
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david carmichael posted:gimme dem joe silva words LordPants posted:My favorite part
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 20:37 |
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But wait, that's not the one from this newsletter (so yes, Joe Silva apparently wrote in at least twice)!quote:As much as I respect your opinion, I can't believe you are falling for this Pancrase crap. Trust me, I really want it to be real. Because of the Observer, I have considered that maybe I'm wrong but when I play the tapes, there are just too many obvious signs. To say that it must be legit because so many of the fights are now going the time limit is like saying pro wrestling must be real because of how many matches end with a disqualification. It is just a way for someone to lose without hurting their reputations too much since they didn't submit. As you have pointed out, most fans in Japan believe that RINGS is legit but just because a lot of people believe something doesn't make it true.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 20:39 |
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:Putting Warrior on commentary would just be inviting FCC fines and hate speech suits.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 21:01 |
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Endless Mike posted:It would get complaints sent to the FCC but exactly $0 in fines since TNA is on cable. The FCC does in fact have authority to regulate cable, but it is less regulated by the FCC than broadcast and you almost never hear them exercising their editorial power. However cable systems still must comply with a number of regulations, especially regarding political candidates, advertising, endorsements, etc. It'd be tough for Warrior to pull off, but he could do it.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 21:10 |
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quote:Add Lanny Poffo to the list who are under contract, although there are no plans of using him. Must be nice to be a nephew or brother to a top wrestler in WCW. Long as I live, I will never understand this. He never showed up on a Saturday Night or as a jobber or anything. Just a paycheque for literally nothing. Poffo really lived that Genius moniker in and out of the ring, clearly.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 21:17 |
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Joe Silva is friends with Dave and has been forever (which at least in part answers the question of how the pro wrestling guy gets so many UFC scoops) and I am pretty sure he wrote in more than two times. He used to be a regular guest on Observer Live in the early days of that, too.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 21:20 |
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MassRafTer posted:The FCC does in fact have authority to regulate cable, but it is less regulated by the FCC than broadcast and you almost never hear them exercising their editorial power. However cable systems still must comply with a number of regulations, especially regarding political candidates, advertising, endorsements, etc. It'd be tough for Warrior to pull off, but he could do it. How does it have any authority? The whole idea with their regulation of the airwaves is that the airwaves are a public resource. Cable lines aren't.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 23:18 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:How does it have any authority? The whole idea with their regulation of the airwaves is that the airwaves are a public resource. Cable lines aren't. They have statutory regulatory power over cable as granted by the Cable Communications Act of 1984 and subsequent legislation (they had originally started regulating cable in the mid-70s and it was kind of a disaster because nobody could figure out what power they had under the original statutory framework that predated cable). It just isn't as broad as their plenary power over broadcast because cable has been deregulated to a much greater extent.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 23:27 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:How does it have any authority? The whole idea with their regulation of the airwaves is that the airwaves are a public resource. Cable lines aren't. The FCC governs communication via air and wire. The federal government is empowered to regulate interstate commerce and the FCC regulates telecommunication. It's the same way the government can regulate land lines.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 23:32 |
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In non TNA/FCC news, tonight's Nitros are sort of big in terms of the long term build for the WCW vs nWo feud. Piper has just debuted and someone else is waiting in the wings. http://psp-tv.com/r/greatestnitroinhistoryofoursport 8 PM for Nitro, Megiddo is currently playing.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 00:22 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:Long as I live, I will never understand this. He never showed up on a Saturday Night or as a jobber or anything. Just a paycheque for literally nothing. Poffo really lived that Genius moniker in and out of the ring, clearly. quote:8. Hulk Hogan (Terry Bollea) pinned Giant (Paul Wight) to regain the WCW title in 14:55. Hogan was cheered and the fans were chanting for him as they had no idea about the heel turn. Hogan looked to be about 60 years old as he had obviously dieted down so much for his birthday that his face was drawn and the sun made his body look real old. Hogan stalled early and basically did 60s heel tactics. All the offense by Hogan looked awful and he doesn't bump as a heel so that kills that idea. Giant did the Hogan superman comeback in one of the campiest spots ever in a wrestling match. It was like watching the worst movie ever made--or the worst wrestling match. Well, between that triple decked cage contraption earlier this year and Warrior-Goldust, this match is luckily eliminated for worst match considerations but would be up there in another year. The campiest part of all was Giant doing the Hogan foot to the face, and missing it by a foot. Hall interfered and was slammed off the top rope and choke slammed. Nash got Jimmy Hart's megaphone and then got choke slammed. Hogan got the megaphone and hit Giant with it and scored the pins and got a huge babyface pop. Booty Man, wearing an NWO t-shirt as if he was the fourth guy, showed up with a birthday cake (Hogan turned 43 the next day) and Hogan thanked him. Then Hogan got Nash and Hall to turn on him. Hogan then spray painted NWO on the title belt. With the angle being everyone in WCW was uniting against NWO, it was ridiculous that nobody came to Giant's aid although I guess had they done so it would have gotten in the way of the angle. -*1/2 I remember this from a Botchamania. The Giant had to lay there for ages selling the megaphone shot while the NWO pissed around in the ring doing their birthday cake angle.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 02:10 |
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Say Nothing posted:This is my favorite example of WCW stupidity. They were going to bring in Poffo using the Gorgeous George name and gimmick, which his brother Randy had purchased, but gave the name to Savage's girlfriend instead. According to Poffo, he never received any bookings and his calls to the office went unreturned. I think they were paying Lanny over $200,000 a year for at least two years to sit at home and do nothing. It's somehow crazy to me that Hogan was only 43 in 1996. He looked middle-aged for most of his career. Must be the 'stache.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 02:33 |
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jeffersonlives posted:Joe Silva is friends with Dave and has been forever (which at least in part answers the question of how the pro wrestling guy gets so many UFC scoops) and I am pretty sure he wrote in more than two times. He used to be a regular guest on Observer Live in the early days of that, too. Even with that, it's still wild to me that a guy involved in running UFC would actually take the time to write letters to the Wrestling Observer.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 03:06 |
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Rodney the Piper posted:Even with that, it's still wild to me that a guy involved in running UFC would actually take the time to write letters to the Wrestling Observer. He wasn't working for UFC yet, he was just an angry man who wanted Pancrase exposed.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 03:07 |