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Brown Moses posted:It was posted on at least two long established NDF Facebook pages and their YouTube accounts, so it appears genuine. Could you link to their youtube account? A quick search yields all kinds of stuff that I'm not sure about. I (obviously) haven't spent much time watching these videos before, so I'm inclined to trust basically nothing from any of them.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:Is that UMLACA fired from the Iranian Falaq-2 launcher, or something else? I'm off the opinion its fired from a launcher that's around 360mm wide, while the Falaq 2 is 333mm wide.
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Brown Moses posted:I'm enjoying reading this and watching this
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Brown Moses posted:I'm enjoying reading this What remarkable insight by a reporter working for both PressTV and Russia Today.
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Looks like Israel isn't the only state in the region busy building walls:the guardian posted:Turkey's new border wall angers Kurds on both sides of Syrian divide
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Count Roland posted:Could you link to their youtube account? A quick search yields all kinds of stuff that I'm not sure about. I (obviously) haven't spent much time watching these videos before, so I'm inclined to trust basically nothing from any of them. Here's the NDF's YouTube channel, and the post on their Facebook page.
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Schisser posted:Looks like Israel isn't the only state in the region which is busy building walls: Well at least Turkey has more of a reason than Israel, as they've actually been shelled by the Syrian military due to the refugees from Syria.
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CommieGIR posted:Well at least Turkey has more of a reason than Israel, as they've actually been shelled by the Syrian military due to the refugees from Syria. Seems pretty reasonable until you notice that Turkey isn't constructing walls in the border towns that were attacked. And I doubt that the Kurds who are controlling northeastern Syria are interested in attacking their own people in Turkey.
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For what it's worth the Kurdish community in Norway is flipping the gently caress out. They aren't *quite* on the side-with-Assad level, but they're close. They detest Turkey and they really loathe the Syrian opposition. This is a really bad move by Turkey, but Turkish policy towards the Kurds has been vile since the beginning, so I guess it's par for the course now that EU membership isn't looking so attractive.
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I've just been put in contact with the photographer who is doing the New Yorker piece, looks like I'll get to look awesome. Kafrenbel has also given it's judgement on Mother Agnes 
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Nov 8, 2013 19:44
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Brown Moses posted:Here's the NDF's YouTube channel, and the post on their Facebook page. Appreciated, thanks.
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Count Roland posted:Appreciated, thanks. IF you check their Likes then they link to other NDF pages for different regions.
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Schisser posted:Seems pretty reasonable until you notice that Turkey isn't constructing walls in the border towns that were attacked. And I doubt that the Kurds who are controlling northeastern Syria are interested in attacking their own people in Turkey. Kurdish nationalism has really been gaining ground recently. The collapse of the Iraqi state has left Iraqi Kurdistan as a bastion of (almost) peace and prosperity. The war in Syria has let Kurds make significant gains there as well. Kurdistan may not exist on paper as a nation, but the reality is getting closer to that. I think the Turks are really just making it very clear what territory they (theoretically) control, so they don't start to look weak in that area. There's even been trouble with the Kurds in Iran; several were executed there in recent days, even though the Kurdish area in Iran has been very quiet for some time now.
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Brown Moses posted:I've just been put in contact with the photographer who is doing the New Yorker piece, looks like I'll get to look awesome. See if you can do the shirt off, arms-framing-head pose for the piece.
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Volkerball posted:Let's take a quick poll here. What would be the best thing for Syria right now? Look, if the rebels and protesters had rolled over and let Assad gas them all this wouldn't have happened
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The thing I love most about Syrian Partisan Girl is that her twitter bio says "Fallujah, the fire in my heart." Has anyone ever pointed out to her that there's probably more than a few Sunni veterans of the battle of Fallujah in Syria fighting to overthrow Assad?
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Schisser posted:Looks like Israel isn't the only state in the region busy building walls: Yeah, the wall has been generating quite a lot of anger recently as it's seen as a desperate move by Turkey to shore up it's borders as the peace talks with the PKK continue to collapse in slow motion. For anyone who's not been keeping up Erdogan unveiled his much-vaunted (and delayed) reform package that was meant to placate growing resentment that the Turkish government had not lived up to it's side of the peace deal, needless to say the package fell short of a lot of people's expectations (though it was still much more substantial than any previous reforms). The PKK had already halted it's withdrawl and now the entire peace process is in a kind of limbo. In other news Saleh Muslim, one of the most senior leaders of the PYD, has claimed that Turkish support for jihadist groups has dried up in recent weeks. "Al-Monitor posted:The biggest news that Muslim delivered was that Turkey’s alleged proxy war against the PYD might be over. Fresh fighting erupted between the YPG and ISIS around the border town of Ras al-Ain in late October. Yet, according to Muslim, “There have been no jihadist fighters coming from Turkey as before. Turkey has ended its support for the jihadists. That is how things look now and we very much hope this state of affairs will continue.” If it's true this may be a sign Turkey is backing away from Syria in general, considering the PYD generally take every opportunity to accuse Turkey of assisting jihadists it is an unusual thing for a PYD spokesman to say Count Roland posted:There's even been trouble with the Kurds in Iran; several were executed there in recent days, even though the Kurdish area in Iran has been very quiet for some time now. PJAK's statements in the wake of the executions really did catch me by surprise, I for one thought that they had worked out a deal with the Iranians after the 2011 raids that amounted to "We'll leave you alone and bother Turkey if you leave us alone". There have been quite a lot of rumours floating around that Iran has been assisting the PYD in Syria as well, it's weird to see them provoke PJAK if they want to keep the Kurdish focused on Syria/Turkey. kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Nov 8, 2013 |
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suboptimal posted:The thing I love most about Syrian Partisan Girl is that her twitter bio says "Fallujah, the fire in my heart." Has anyone ever pointed out to her that there's probably more than a few Sunni veterans of the battle of Fallujah in Syria fighting to overthrow Assad? I would, but she blocked me after I blocker her.
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The SAA is apparently launching a pretty big offensive in Aleppo to capture the 'Brigade 80' base near the Aleppo International airport that they lost earlier this year. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/11/syria-troops-launch-major-offensive-aleppo-201311863542920283.html
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Miruvor posted:The SAA is apparently launching a pretty big offensive in Aleppo to capture the 'Brigade 80' base near the Aleppo International airport that they lost earlier this year. Both sides have claimed to have won the engagement, so once the dust settles we'll have to check the videos coming from there (if any) for evidence.
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Brown Moses posted:I'm enjoying reading this and watching this Ugh. The comments. quote:im sorry your country is being attacked. i am american however i understand the evils of our leaders. so much so they attack us too.chemically.in our food,drinks, care products,vaccines. i just want to let you know not all americans are warmongerers.and insensitive to others outside our country. We stand in solidarity with those who's governments are way sketchy, bro. From GMO's to Sarin. 
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kustomkarkommando posted:PJAK's statements in the wake of the executions really did catch me by surprise, I for one thought that they had worked out a deal with the Iranians after the 2011 raids that amounted to "We'll leave you alone and bother Turkey if you leave us alone". There have been quite a lot of rumours floating around that Iran has been assisting the PYD in Syria as well, it's weird to see them provoke PJAK if they want to keep the Kurdish focused on Syria/Turkey. I was under the same impression. Iran had a fairly good relationship, why muck it up like that? I suppose there's more to the story than we know.
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Ayman Zawahiri has disbanded ISIS, telling Baghdadi to keep to Iraq. This is the second time he has been told to do so.
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Muffiner posted:Ayman Zawahiri has disbanded ISIS, telling Baghdadi to keep to Iraq. This is the second time he has been told to do so. Supposedly the statement shown on Al Jazeera Arabic was identical to the May statement, and is possible just the video of that statement.
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Schisser posted:Looks like Israel isn't the only state in the region busy building walls: They're going full Byzantine again. 
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Imapanda posted:They're going full Byzantine again. Watch out for guys marching around your walls with trumpets.
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CommieGIR posted:Watch out for guys marching around your walls with trumpets. More like watch out for guys with big-rear end cannons.
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I find it interesting that the Kurds have stayed so secular in their nationalism - even when their main enemies (though obviously not their only, see: Iran) have been the militantly secular Ba'athists and the downright anti-religious Turks, they've somehow avoided taking up the trappings of holy war. My Kurdish contacts really hate al-Nusra because of their fundamentalism. They explained it to me in terms of Kurdish nationalism being more akin to European ethnic nationalism, but that is also very much connected to religion so I don't really get it. I know that the Soviets funded the PKK and that lot for a while, but they're gone now, so what gives? In an age where militant movements in the Islamic world seem to revert to islamism as a means of protest, the Kurds have stayed surprisingly, well, not-islamic. Despite being a religious minority as well as an ethnic/linguistic one in most of the countries they inhabit. Does anyone have a good history or explanation for this? I feel like it would be sort of insensitive not to accept my friends' version after asking about it.
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V. Illych L. posted:I find it interesting that the Kurds have stayed so secular in their nationalism - even when their main enemies (though obviously not their only, see: Iran) have been the militantly secular Ba'athists and the downright anti-religious Turks, they've somehow avoided taking up the trappings of holy war. My Kurdish contacts really hate al-Nusra because of their fundamentalism. They explained it to me in terms of Kurdish nationalism being more akin to European ethnic nationalism, but that is also very much connected to religion so I don't really get it. I know that the Soviets funded the PKK and that lot for a while, but they're gone now, so what gives? In an age where militant movements in the Islamic world seem to revert to islamism as a means of protest, the Kurds have stayed surprisingly, well, not-islamic. Despite being a religious minority as well as an ethnic/linguistic one in most of the countries they inhabit. It might be because the Kurds themselves are divided along religious lines. For example, the Alevi Kurds in eastern Turkey are very liberal. The ones I know deny being related to Islam and fear that Erdogan is trying to convert them into Sunni muslims. The PKK itself is a secular party and seen as a unifying factor for many Kurds. It had (and still has) women like Sakine Cansiz in their leadership who make sure that women's liberation is one of the party's core issues, which is another factor that promotes secularism and puts them at odds with other groups in the region.
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Zudgemud posted:More like watch out for guys with big-rear end cannons. Cannons, trumpets, its all the same now days
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I've been sent photographs of some of Jabhat al-Nusra's record-keeping. I'm working on getting what I have translated, which will hopefully give some insight into their bureaucracy This is the weapons file, listing who received which weapon. Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Nov 9, 2013 |
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V. Illych L. posted:I find it interesting that the Kurds have stayed so secular in their nationalism - even when their main enemies (though obviously not their only, see: Iran) have been the militantly secular Ba'athists and the downright anti-religious Turks, they've somehow avoided taking up the trappings of holy war. My Kurdish contacts really hate al-Nusra because of their fundamentalism. They explained it to me in terms of Kurdish nationalism being more akin to European ethnic nationalism, but that is also very much connected to religion so I don't really get it. I know that the Soviets funded the PKK and that lot for a while, but they're gone now, so what gives? In an age where militant movements in the Islamic world seem to revert to islamism as a means of protest, the Kurds have stayed surprisingly, well, not-islamic. Despite being a religious minority as well as an ethnic/linguistic one in most of the countries they inhabit. As Schisser said, Kurds are rather divided religiously between Sunni, Alevi and Yazdani groups. Kurdish nationalism's fundamental aim is to create a united Kurdistan which means that the classical divisions have to be overcome, religious division of course being a major one. It's worth pointing out that the deep secularism of Kurdish nationalism is very pronounced in Turkey but a good bit weaker in Iraq, largely because of the substantial Alevi population in Turkey that forced the nationalist movement there to adopt more secular approaches as well as the integration of Marxist ideas that began in the 70's during Turkeys political upheaval. Iraqi Kurdish groups tend to be considerably more conservative but still embrace a principle of freedom of religion under the nationalist reasoning of creating a single Kurdish people regardless of religion, but there is little to no tolerance for the more radical ideas developed in Turkey. It's also worth noting that Kuridsh fundamentalist groups exist, the Kuridsh Hizbollah was a major player for a while and has been succeeded by a political group called Hüda-Par in Turkey which has generated a surprising amount of support in Eastern Turkey. Kurds hold prominent positions in various extremist organizations in Syria (and elsewhere) and many Kurds did vote for the Islamic AKP in Turkey and support the Gulen movement's Islamic education schemes in Eastern Turkey, there is a divide between the secularism of the educated/urban Kurdish groups and the more rural rank and file. kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Nov 9, 2013 |
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Brown Moses posted:I've been sent photographs of some of Jabhat al-Nusra's record-keeping. I'm working on getting what I have translated, which will hopefully give some insight into their bureaucracy In the US military, there's a dedicated armorer or two per company (about 100 soldiers or so, depending on what that unit specializes in). I can't remember if there was a sign out sheet, or if it was done by logging info into the computer, but I do remember that we had to sign out each individual component. For example, if you sign out an M4 rifle, you'd also have to sign out for a CCO or ACOG sight, a PEQ-2 laser doohickey, etc, and you'd be on the hook for all that stuff. I'm kind of curious to see how much JaN's process differs from that. If you make a big blog post on it once you've got some translated, be sure to post it in here.
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Brown Moses posted:I've been sent photographs of some of Jabhat al-Nusra's record-keeping. I'm working on getting what I have translated, which will hopefully give some insight into their bureaucracy Can you upload a few other pages?
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Xandu posted:Can you upload a few other pages? I'll email them to you directly, I'll post the full lot when I have them all translated. PM me your email.
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Sounds like Iran and the West are very close to a nuclear weapons deal. Press conference happening now between with Iran and the EU's foreign affairs leaders that I can't watch. 
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No deal. Next round of talks will be in 7-10 days.quote:Iran and world powers failed on Saturday to reach an agreement over Tehran’s nuclear program following three days of intensive negotiations in Geneva. Supposedly the sticking points are the shutdown of one of Iran's nuclear facilities that would play a big role in any weapons program, and creating a timeline for the easing of sanctions against Iran.
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Brown Moses posted:I'll email them to you directly, I'll post the full lot when I have them all translated. PM me your email. I'm sure you've given this serious consideration but wouldn't that document constitute useful intelligence on the materiel and manpower of a group? Would it be of use to any of the groups engaged in fighting?
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Paul MaudDib posted:By the way, just wanted to let you know I was listening to Diane Rehm and her guests made the exact same point I did. Kerry went to Egypt and negotiated with the junta, and did not say a single word about the trial of Morsi the next day, which is a tacit (yet absolutely clear) sign of support. In particular it's one that's designed to soothe relations with the Saudis. You have really bizarre definitions of what constitutes signs of support. At most this means they just don't care. It came up in the other thread that when India and Pakistan announced their nuclear weapons programs the US responded with really paltry sanctions measures, actually far less than what's in place for Egypt now. This doesn't mean they supported a nuclear Pakistan, it just means it was more politically expedient to not make a huge deal of it.
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