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Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

Interstellar Owl posted:

I saw the book sale has an audiobook version, holy poo poo I can't imagine how someone can straight face read some of the stuff like Theon's torture and stuff.
Roy Dotrice is the Wildest of Cards. And wait until you hear his Missandei.

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Cpt.Sean Luc Picard
Nov 24, 2006
man why you even got to do a thing?
The Others use that horn thing to demolish the wall and thanks to everyone and their petty squabbles the Others take over Westeros. Dany arrives just in time to go find what is left and goes insane like all of her predecessors and demolishes and melts what the Others have wrought, leaving everything underwater. Everyone's hopes and dreams go out the window. She and her dragons eventually tire, fall, and drown.

Patchface was right the whole time. He is a prophet telling the what the past will be. And it is all underwater. And then poop happens.

Edit: global warming.

Cpt.Sean Luc Picard fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Nov 11, 2013

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

This thread is basically those support groups from Fight Club and the regulars are that lady talking about dildos and porn.


I have amyl nitrate.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Holy Calamity! posted:

I like gurm and the asoiaf series :)

What about GURM do you like?

Hunky Joe
Dec 21, 2005

I'll fight crime when I feel like it...

Cpt.Sean Luc Picard posted:

The Others use that horn thing to demolish the wall and thanks to everyone and their petty squabbles the Others take over Westeros. Dany arrives just in time to go find what is left and goes insane like all of her predecessors and demolishes and melts what the Others have wrought, leaving everything underwater. Everyone's hopes and dreams go out the window. She and her dragons eventually tire, fall, and drown.

Patchface was right the whole time. He is a prophet telling the what the past will be. And it is all underwater. And then poop happens.

Edit: global warming.

I'd normally say this is really far fetched for an explanation but compared to 95% of the ideas thrown around on Westeros.org this actually seems totally possible and I hope it happens .

Smellem Sexbad
Sep 16, 2003
What are everyone's predictions for Winds of Winter release date?

I am going with Q1 2016. MARK IT DOWN PEOPLE.

dentist toy box
Oct 9, 2012

There's a haint in the foothills of NC; the haint of the #3 chevy. The rich have formed a holy alliance to exorcise it but they'll never fucking catch him.


Interstellar Owl posted:

I saw the book sale has an audiobook version, holy poo poo I can't imagine how someone can straight face read some of the stuff like Theon's torture and stuff.

Someone link that one recording with Sam on the ship with the music.


ace_beef posted:

What are everyone's predictions for Winds of Winter release date?

I am going with Q1 2016. MARK IT DOWN PEOPLE.

20-GRRM is loving fat and gonna die.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

This thread is basically those support groups from Fight Club and the regulars are that lady talking about dildos and porn.

And in the end it turns out we all were GURM all along.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

There's a little bit of GRRM in all of us.

Personperson14 posted:

Someone link that one recording with Sam on the ship with the music.
Here you go.

Interstellar Owl
Nov 3, 2010

"The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely owl like."

Urdnot Fire posted:

There's a little bit of GRRM in all of us.
Here you go.

I think I just laughed for a straight 5 minutes.. it's just so hilarious. I was like "what is this?" then I realized what scene it was and then the music got more clear and I totally lost it.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Urdnot Fire posted:

Don't worry, I just saw this on Not A Blog!

ADWD was neither nice nor concise.

He thinks people care about Areo Hotah ahahahaha

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

Urdnot Fire posted:

There's a little bit of GRRM in all of us.
Here you go.

Oh God, why do sci-fi and fantasy authors insist on having awkward sex/intimacy scenes in their books. That kind of poo poo doesn't belong in sci-fi/fantasy. If I want to enjoy some xxx-rated action, I can watch porn or fool around with my girlfriend.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

Urdnot Fire posted:

Roy Dotrice is the Wildest of Cards. And wait until you hear his Missandei.

Everyone gets a foreign and/or regional accent.

Grey Worm is something approaching French, I think Dany is like Irish or something and most of his Lannisters are Welsh.

Big Bug Hug
Nov 19, 2002
I'm with stupid*

Urdnot Fire posted:

There's a little bit of GRRM in all of us.
Here you go.

Holy poo poo. :stare:

Thank you so loving much for posting that. Funniest thing I've heard in ages.

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer

OhYeah posted:

Oh God, why do sci-fi and fantasy authors insist on having awkward sex/intimacy scenes in their books. That kind of poo poo doesn't belong in sci-fi/fantasy. If I want to enjoy some xxx-rated action, I can watch porn or fool around with my girlfriend.

I don't know I think sam and gilly having sex was cute.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Where did my wild cards tag go? Are they all down? :(

dentist toy box
Oct 9, 2012

There's a haint in the foothills of NC; the haint of the #3 chevy. The rich have formed a holy alliance to exorcise it but they'll never fucking catch him.


fleshweasel posted:

I don't know I think sam and gilly having sex was cute.

I thought it was until I heard the drat thing. Then it went from cute to weird as gently caress.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

OhYeah posted:

Oh God, why do sci-fi and fantasy authors insist on having awkward sex/intimacy scenes in their books. That kind of poo poo doesn't belong in sci-fi/fantasy. If I want to enjoy some xxx-rated action, I can watch porn or fool around with my girlfriend.

That's pretty much my main gripe with those genres as well. Even otherwise nearly flawless writers like Iain M. Banks stain their work with awkward/gross sex scenes. Just drop it altogether, genre writers. Read the above comment whenever you get the urge to start a scene like that and just move on.

Jeffrey posted:

Where did my wild cards tag go? Are they all down? :(

It's still there?

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Joramun posted:

It's still there?
Yeah sorry I figured it out, it was a bad adblock entry from me trying to read GBS 2.1 at work. I'm dumb.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Ye sI too think sex is a gross thing and bodies are horrible lumps that are to be shamed and only ever in porno or in the Miracle of Life videos; furthermore, as an author, I can tell you that the challenges of successfully incorporating same whle only being elliptical or subtly nuanced and shyly referenced are,

CeallaSo
May 3, 2013

Wisdom from a Fool
I can understand the desire to communicate that two characters are close enough that they're starting to get physically intimate, but I really do not need someone to describe the act to me. Anyone reading these books ought to at least have a passing understanding of how sex works without having it shoved in their faces. If you absolutely have to indicate that two characters are boning, use some subtlety and have a little decency.

ShaqDiesel
Mar 21, 2013

CeallaSo posted:

I can understand the desire to communicate that two characters are close enough that they're starting to get physically intimate, but I really do not need someone to describe the act to me. Anyone reading these books ought to at least have a passing understanding of how sex works without having it shoved in their faces. If you absolutely have to indicate that two characters are boning, use some subtlety and have a little decency.

It's harder to imply sex in writing than in a visual medium. Writers also tend to go into great detail in describing anything (see "capons") so here we are with glistening shafts and Myrish swamps.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


This is why Garth Marenghi's Darkplace is objectively the best programme of all time.

quote:

He whisked off her shoes and panties in one movement, wild like an enraged shark, his bulky totem beating a seductive rhythm. Mary's body felt like it was burning, even though the room was properly air-conditioned. They tried all the positions: on top, doggy, and normal. Exhausted, they collapsed on to the recently extended sofa bed. Then a hellbeast ate them.

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.
He's a wild card.

But I'm glad he's in our deck.

Let's hope he plays a fair hand.

He'll come up trumps.

If there's not a joker in the pack, and sometimes there is!

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I don't think asoiaf would have blown up like it has if not for all the disgusting sex

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

fleshweasel posted:

I don't think asoiaf would have blown up like it has if not for all the disgusting sex

This is fairly true.

You know how no one remembers being a toddler and your earliest memory is kind of like when you came online?

That's how ASOIAF feels. I was just reading an average book and then BAM! dwarf prostitute sex.

After that every sloppy, greasy, fisty detail registered.

Sure, I forgot plots and stuff along the way. Can't remember why Cersei went to naked jail, or what Stannis did between the Blackwater and freezing somewhere with some banker.

But I do remember that Jaime banged Cersei on their kid's coffin, and Dany got hosed so hard by Daario her clit got so engorged she thought she had a dick.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

Sure, I forgot plots and stuff along the way. Can't remember why Cersei went to naked jail, or what Stannis did between the Blackwater and freezing somewhere with some banker.

But I do remember that Jaime banged Cersei on their kid's coffin, and Dany got hosed so hard by Daario her clit got so engorged she thought she had a dick.

Cersei partly went to naked jail because she had sex with her own cousin as well as a whole gaggle of Kettleblacks, so that kind of goes against your point.

Joramun fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Nov 12, 2013

rypakal
Oct 31, 2012

He also cooks the food of his people

CeallaSo posted:

I can understand the desire to communicate that two characters are close enough that they're starting to get physically intimate, but I really do not need someone to describe the act to me. Anyone reading these books ought to at least have a passing understanding of how sex works without having it shoved in their faces. If you absolutely have to indicate that two characters are boning, use some subtlety and have a little decency.

So should he also just imply all the violence as well?

Also, if you don't want things shoved in your face you're reading the wrong author

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Joramun posted:

Cersei partly went to naked jail because she had sex with her own cousin as well as a whole gaggle of Kettleblacks, so that kind of goes against your point.

Also something about killing the fantasy pope?

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


The best/only good part of ADWD is Stannis' nod of approval when Jon Snow grows a pair and kills Janos Slynt, yes or yes?

Bemis
Jan 5, 2010

Aurain posted:

The best/only good part of ADWD is Stannis' nod of approval when Jon Snow grows a pair and kills Janos Slynt, yes or yes?

Yes. Stannis makes every part better automatically.

Woodpile
Mar 30, 2013

Aurain posted:

The best/only good part of ADWD is Stannis' nod of approval when Jon Snow grows a pair and kills Janos Slynt, yes or yes?

One of the best bits in the entire series. It was then I thought ADWD would redeem AFFC. I was but a young girl who knew little of the ways of braid-twisting. Or was it nipples? Neeps?

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Joramun posted:

Cersei partly went to naked jail because she had sex with her own cousin as well as a whole gaggle of Kettleblacks, so that kind of goes against your point.

Moonboy also too, as the rumor goes.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

redshirt posted:

Moonboy also too, as the rumor goes.

Jaime's monologue changing from "Kettleblack, ok maybe, Lancel? Moonboy? No..." to "Wait, if Lancel, he was kidding about Moonboy, right?" is pretty great.

CeallaSo
May 3, 2013

Wisdom from a Fool

rypakal posted:

So should he also just imply all the violence as well?

Also, if you don't want things shoved in your face you're reading the wrong author

I'm not saying he should just imply it every time, but you have to admit the "sticky princes" monologue was unnecessary. As far as violence goes, he at least seems to strike a balance between describing how someone was killed and implying that a death happened.

You're right, though, GRRM loves to shove things in peoples' faces.

Blind Melon
Jan 3, 2006
I like fire, you can have some too.

Joramun posted:

Cersei partly went to naked jail because she had sex with her own cousin as well as a whole gaggle of Kettleblacks, so that kind of goes against your point.

She only had sex with one Kettleblack, but she confessed to having sex with all of them.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

CeallaSo posted:

I'm not saying he should just imply it every time, but you have to admit the "sticky princes" monologue was unnecessary.

Sticky princes is actually a bad example because that did provide actual character insight/background (no matter how hosed up). A better example is Sam's fat pink mast or Dany not knowing where the oval office ends and the cock begins.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos

Joramun posted:

Dany not knowing where the oval office ends and the cock begins.

That was Asha.

Two chapters later Dany has a sweet heartbeat in which she doesn't know who's penetrating who.

You're welcome.

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

emanresu tnuocca posted:

That was Asha.

Two chapters later Dany has a sweet heartbeat in which she doesn't know who's penetrating who.

You're welcome.

I thought it was Asha whose oval office became the world (great post-rock band name)?

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Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

Whorelord posted:

I thought it was Asha whose oval office became the world (great post-rock band name)?
Her oval office is a multi-tasker. Hence why that knight calls her "oval office" like fifty times in a row.

EDIT: GRRM doesn't want anyone else writing in the ASOIAF universe:

quote:

"Not while I'm alive," Martin says. "But eventually I will not be alive because Valar Morghulis – all men must men die."

Martin has followed up comments in Brisbane at the weekend, where he described fan fiction as lazy, by ruling out the possibility of allowing other authors to write licensed works set in the lands described in the Song of Ice and Fire series.

Yet he seems resigned to the notion that Westeros will not die with him.

"I don't think my wife, if she survives me, will allow that either. But one thing that history has shown us is eventually these literary rights pass to grandchildren or collateral descendents, or people who didn't actually know the writer and don't care about his wishes. It's just a cash cow to them."
He also says he's proud of his readers for keeping spoilers secret, aside from "a few jerks out there". The article also includes a picture of Bronn's actor looking a bit peeved to be sitting next to GRRM:

Urdnot Fire fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Nov 13, 2013

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