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Getting back into this game for EW and I am reminded why I hate Thin Men. loving gently caress those loving things.
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The ability to carry two items in to a mission is a Forge Upgrade now instead of a skill that you have to pick on a character and it's loving amazing being able to carry two items on every non-MEC. I'm hanging out late-game now, the most recent story mission was the Base Defense mission (holy poo poo that was amazing) and my most recent council mission was the one where I finally tracked down the convoy in France and met the cargo. I'm up against what used to be end-game aliens - Muton Elites, Sectopods, Mechtoids mostly with a few Seekers thrown in (not sure if there's another tier of alien now in EW or not) and things are just freakin' sweet. I'm burning through huge swathes of rookies by running missions with 3 MECs (one with the badge that provides +25% exp to all low-rank soldiers) and three Squaddies because all of my high-ranking soldiers except this one MEC died in the last story mission. This expansion has completely changed the pace and tone of the entire game and I felt like I have spent every minute thus-far hanging on for dear life and praying I can finish some R&D before the enemies ramp it up again, wow. Robocop Horney fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Nov 14, 2013 00:44
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Ataru13 posted:Have they ever revealed the characters for Zhang's name? I can't not read it as Ms. Zhang; though that is kind of funny. Yeah, it's 雞蛋. e: vvv uh NO xcom is and must ALWAYS BE the most serious game, ever, my aliens DEMAND hyperrealism. Bogart fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Nov 14, 2013 00:47
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jeez chill out about the Civ V thing. It's clearly just a joke and not some 2K marketing thing crowbared in a place where it doesn't fit (it would be a lot more obnoxious if it were, I'd imagine). How many predicates can you think of that roughly bisect the member nations anyway.
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Nov 14, 2013 00:52
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animatorZed posted:While I haven't gotten there, I'm pretty sure the lead designer said that the UI marks up countries ruled out by the clues automatically so you don't actually have to know them and it just seems like harmless flavor. FraudulentEconomics posted:We need to start figuring out what tiers of abilities aren't ever in the roulette. code:
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Nov 14, 2013 00:54
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Photosynaesthesias posted:This expansion has completely changed the pace and tone of the entire game and I felt like I have spent every minute thus-far hanging on for dear life and praying I can finish some R&D before the enemies ramp it up again, wow. Yeah, jesus christ. The amount of missions and variables it's throwing at you know is incredible, hahaha. Feels like mistakes and poor planning are really punished for the average player. That said my favourite thing is - and I seriously do mean this - the soldier languages being expanded. It's so much fun and adds a huge layer of chaos to the fights. I really can't wait to unlock Marathon and get an Implassic game going again. 
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Nov 14, 2013 00:58
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Well just beat Enemy Within for the first time. Only my 2 mech troopers survived the suicide mission everyone else perished. Killed the final boss with a kinetic fist punch in true Welcome To Erf fashion. One of my mech troopers had been like on 39 missions and was pushing about 140 kills. God I love mech troopers. One funny thing I noticed that the end game stats screen showed the average money spent by players and the average was like 900,000 and people had 300 scientist and engineers.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:01
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Insert name here posted:It does: there's a little icon next to the name of the country that the EXALT base is not in that shows up on the covert ops screen. It was literally the first thing I noticed too after my first covert ops mission so I don't know how people are dumb enough to miss that poo poo. I would love it if folks could figure out how to add brand new skills to the pool, maybe even remove the base classes entirely and leave weapons and gadgets up to the roulette.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:03
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Mr Dog posted:jeez chill out about the Civ V thing. It's clearly just a joke and not some 2K marketing thing crowbared in a place where it doesn't fit (it would be a lot more obnoxious if it were, I'd imagine). Race, economy, religion, language, culture, sports, geography, population, Insert name here posted:It does: there's a little icon next to the name of the country that the EXALT base is not in that shows up on the covert ops screen. It was literally the first thing I noticed too after my first covert ops mission so I don't know how people are dumb enough to miss that poo poo. Does giving savior to a non-support let them use medkits?
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Nov 14, 2013 01:04
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Heliotic posted:Race, economy, religion, language, culture, sports, geography, population, Non-supports could always use medkits.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:04
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Space Hamlet posted:Non-supports could always use medkits. ~mind blown~
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Nov 14, 2013 01:05
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I forgot how silly the tutorial is in this. COMMANDER COMMANDER COMMANDER DO WHAT I SAY YOU HAVE NO LITERALLY CHOICE COMMANDER. The subcommander guy who suddenly realizes it would be a good idea to capture one.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:07
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Heliotic posted:Unlock it now through a VPN - it takes about 2 minutes! 
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Nov 14, 2013 01:08
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Sardonik posted:I follow the 5 sat at the end of the first month build order religiously, and try to maintain +1 uplink per month from there until full coverage. How the gently caress do you get 5 sats up by the end of the first month?
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Nov 14, 2013 01:12
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itskage posted:How the gently caress do you get 5 sats up by the end of the first month? First abduction reward is engineers, sell off everything you get from missions to afford the sats and extra uplink. It's doable but requires a bit of luck.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:14
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poptart_fairy posted:First abduction reward is engineers, sell off everything you get from missions to afford the sats and extra uplink. It's doable but requires a bit of luck. A bit? You need luck On your base placement but that would actually be pretty cool. You could start at NA and cover either SA / Africa in that first month. Instant autopsies,interrogations or a 30% bonus. Then by month 2 you can have 3/5 off invasions and 3 continental bonuses ... Brb I'm restarting my game. Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Nov 14, 2013 01:17
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Just a heads-up, MEC soldiers can place transponders in Confounding Light but cannot operate the train. What the gently caress XCOM.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:20
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Heliotic posted:Unlock it now through a VPN - it takes about 2 minutes! Already tried. Since I preordered the game from EU it also shows the EU unlock date when I log into Steam with a US IP.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:27
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quiggy stardust posted:Just a heads-up, MEC soldiers can place transponders in Confounding Light but cannot operate the train. What the gently caress XCOM.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:28
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quiggy stardust posted:Just a heads-up, MEC soldiers can place transponders in Confounding Light but cannot operate the train. What the gently caress XCOM. Weird, I saw a stream where a guy started the train with a MEC.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:28
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nnnotime posted:Hmm, on the modding front I found EXALT behavior settings for the Geoscape tied to the game's difficulty, but these settings are not in the DefaultGameCore.ini file. Instead these settings are in the file DefaultGameData.ini. I had EXALT do minimum financial sabotage for 1000 credits and change their sabotage frequency to once a day. Pretty cool to see the override work and lose 1000 credits on EXALT's first attack on my network.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:31
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quiggy stardust posted:Just a heads-up, MEC soldiers can place transponders in Confounding Light but cannot operate the train. What the gently caress XCOM. Think of it was the ED-209 trying to walk on stairs. It'd be a real hassle to try and hit a tiny button!
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Nov 14, 2013 01:31
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The last bit of that mission where you turn on the train sometimes bugs and doesn't activate; it happened to me with my run of the mill assault, saving and reloading fixed it.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:32
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Hammerstein posted:Already tried. Since I preordered the game from EU it also shows the EU unlock date when I log into Steam with a US IP. It worked for me in Australia. Try restarting Steam with the VPN on, then validating XCOM's files.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:34
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quiggy stardust posted:Just a heads-up, MEC soldiers can place transponders in Confounding Light but cannot operate the train. What the gently caress XCOM. They also can not operate the computer on the boat in the Whale Boat mission - it kind of makes sense because how is my robot with a giant Particle Cannon in one hand and 2-foot-long metal fingers that punch enemies in to dust for the other hand going to operate a computer? e: I've been hearing a lot of conflicting reports about it and I think MECs can use computers if they are your squad leader.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:34
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Ugh. gently caress the first portent mission. I was doing completely fine, was about 2-3 turns out from getting the VIP evac'd, and then I'm wondering why I can't move my VIP for some reason or make him take cover. Weird. At least he's in full cover and has 360 protection so it's not the end of the world. Nope. Thin man runs the gauntlet and one shot crit snipes him out of full cover, probably because I couldn't make him duck down. God damnit.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:34
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So it's scripted that the thin men have a 100% crit chance now right? They've never failed to do it. Ever.quote:
I'm doing it now and the game has spawned thin men such that it is a physical impossibility to put him in a position he will not be flanked. I'm glad I'm not doing ironman because I'll be hosed if I'm restarting the game until the one time the thin men do not triangulate him. e: And that's critical hit number 10 in a row for the thin men. And the sectoids can shoot through floors now! Meanwhile, my sniper cannot shoot something literally five feet in front of her. It's not an option. 
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Nov 14, 2013 01:39
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It's probably obvious, but Ghost Armor does not stack with Mimetic Skin. That is, the stealth functionality on a Ghost Armor suit does not function when equipped on a Mimetic Skin genemod soldier. Despite the defense bonus, I'm kitting out my MS soldiers in Titan Armor instead, and the results are just straight up ridiculous. Like, I managed to accidentally wake a pod of three Chrysalids on a supply ship, so I R&G'ed one of my Lt. Assaults in to Alloy Cannon one of them in the face. She has 21 HP with Titan Armor, plus a sheet of Chitin plating, but I still had this horrible gut-turning feeling from having multiple Chrysalids ending the turn adjacent to one of my troops. So they both tickle her for 3 damage each, then they both ate Alloy Cannon from the Up Close and Personal bonus. She's also Psionic, not that I even have an opportunity to use it. Also jfc Anette is like the picture of what would happen if you gave a twenty year old civilian girl a suit of power armor and a plasma cannon. It would be cute if she wasn't so insubordinate and pissy about everything. At least she can shoot straight. "Reload!" "Give me a moment, I'm not a weapons expert!" Ah who am I kidding it's still endearing  (like 70% of XCOM is female in this game, it's very rare to have even one dude on a mission)
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Nov 14, 2013 01:41
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Mr Dog posted:jeez chill out about the Civ V thing. It's clearly just a joke and not some 2K marketing thing crowbared in a place where it doesn't fit (it would be a lot more obnoxious if it were, I'd imagine). I personally don't mind that Firaxis mentions another connected game; I do mind that it's a ruddy useless clue  I mean, if you take Civ 5's expansions into account, the tooltip might as well have said "The EXALT base is on Earth, hop to it."
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Nov 14, 2013 01:44
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Started a new classic/ironman game with every second wave option checked except for mind hates matter. Sometimes you gotta separate the wheat from the chaff. Anyone with bad stats will probably get fed into the meat grinder at some daring move so the others may live. 
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Nov 14, 2013 01:45
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Mr Dog posted:(like 70% of XCOM is female in this game, it's very rare to have even one dude on a mission) I've seen two dudes in my game and one ate a plasma bolt from the Outsider. It makes Flight of the Valkyries easy to get!
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Nov 14, 2013 01:45
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RBA Starblade posted:So it's scripted that the thin men have a 100% crit chance now right? They've never failed to do it. Ever. Oh he wasn't flanked. He had full cover. But I couldn't issue him the "Heads Down" command or whatever it is that VIPs get, nor could I move him. Then he died the next turn, of course. I have yet to see Thin Men and floaters do less than 6 damage, though I don't remember what a normal range is for their guns.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:45
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CommissarMega posted:I personally don't mind that Firaxis mentions another connected game; I do mind that it's a ruddy useless clue The clues mark off countries on the map that don't qualify automatically, you don't even need to read the clue.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:47
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Photosynaesthesias posted:They also can not operate the computer on the boat in the Whale Boat mission - it kind of makes sense because how is my robot with a giant Particle Cannon in one hand and 2-foot-long metal fingers that punch enemies in to dust for the other hand going to operate a computer? Oh they can definitely do the boat thing. My MEC was the only actual unit on the boat at that point. My MEC was unable to start the train though, resulting in failure (and death).
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Nov 14, 2013 01:47
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RBA Starblade posted:So it's scripted that the thin men have a 100% crit chance now right? They've never failed to do it. Ever. Move the VIP really, really slowly. Or not at all on some turns. Each hot-dropped Thin Man has his own threshold for the VIP to cross in before the alien bugger drops in and pisses you off. So move the guy forward a few tiles and get everyone ready. Then clear out all aliens that fall, clean up, move the guy forward a few more tiles again. If you're careful, the return trip won't be too bad. Going up in the first place sucks because of that stupid set of three Thin Men that are nearly impossible to not trigger all at once. If you activate either the group of two or the lone one, they'll almost always run to where you have to trigger the other group to get a kill.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:47
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What can I do to get good enough for classic? I can't seem to make it very far every time I try it but I own normal like its nothing. I wish there was an in between difficulty.
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Nov 14, 2013 01:50
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Alkydere posted:Move the VIP really, really slowly. Or not at all on some turns. Tried it. It's scripted so unless I move forward to this spot they don't spawn, but it's laid out such that he cannot dodge the back thin man, the front thin man, and the sectoid in one turn, and smoke grenades and using human shields to block line of sight somehow do not work either. Thin men crit number 11 in a row btw. I'm sure of it now, they can't NOT do it. They don't even spit anymore. The way up was fine because I can take it slow, but since it's a giant god drat hole I can't do anything about it except hope I roll the dice in my favor. e: Problem solved, I spawncamped the fuckers. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Nov 14, 2013 01:53
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nnnotime posted:Uberjumper responded back to me with his test results, while I was testing, and we found out you can override the game settings in the DefaultGameData.ini file yourself. There are EXALT difficulty settings there and I confirmed the changes worked. Woahwoahwoah, the DGC.ini in your games folder actually affects the game now?!
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Nov 14, 2013 01:53
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Just finished the Base invade and got the last medal. The Star of Terra - Either grants everyone in the squad +5 defense and +5 will or grants 25% bonus experience to squadmates under lieutenant. That name is so badass I think I'll keep it. Edit: Post medal names 
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Nov 14, 2013 01:55
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Looselybased posted:What can I do to get good enough for classic? I can't seem to make it very far every time I try it but I own normal like its nothing. I wish there was an in between difficulty. Biggest tip someone gave me is: Never use anything but high cover. If an agent is within sight of an enemy and is in low cover, pull him back out of range or at the very least, hunker down. Try to reveal aliens/terrain at the start of your turn, before giving moves to any others. Also, don't dash unless you know the path is completely safe (this way you can always pulls back to your original cover if aliens are unveiled)
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