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I've been using Mega Pinsir on Showdown, and holy poo poo, I've never used a more reliable sweeper. Seriously, if this thing gets one Swords Dance down, it's all over. I had a match where I went from 2-6 to 2-0 because Mega Pinsir was able to set up on a Quagsire who failed to burn with Scald twice in a row. It even OHKO'd a Scarf Genesect with Quick Attack. With 125 base defense it will comfortably live through every priority move that isn't Talonflame's Brave Bird. This thing is truly terrifying, and I don't want to be around when everyone realizes how good it really is and starts running Skarmory and Rotom on every team.
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^^^^ I have literally the same experience with Mega Charizard X. One Dragon Dance and it's all over. "I know the guy who'll carry you" *forfeit* You mean Blissey, Ferrothorn, or Crobat aren't doing anything at all? Emong posted:Maybe he thought the attack drop would let him live? I'm not sure what he was expecting to do from there, though. That's what baffles me, too! It's not like he could do anything even if he hung on with a few HP left. Okay so when I sent out Ferrothorn and set up rocks, do you just forfeit because Manectric won't survive? Ah well. Showdown is still fun even when I lose  Well. Usually. When my opponent sits around buffing/debuffing/healing when I have one pokemon left and he can easily oneshot it, that's when I stop having fun. Don't be a lovely winner. You know drat well that Aegislash' Sacred Sword will finish Blissey.
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Nov 15, 2013 01:54
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Caught a shiny! It's a Birabel. 
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Classtoise posted:That's what baffles me, too! It's not like he could do anything even if he hung on with a few HP left. Manectric gets flamethrower and overheat though?
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Caught a shiny! Hey, don't kill yourself guy, give it to me!
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Caught a shiny! Could be worse. Could be a Rhyhorn.  you didn't see that
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Ruggington posted:Manectric gets flamethrower and overheat though? Well poo poo, I dodged that bullet then!
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Classtoise posted:That's what baffles me, too! It's not like he could do anything even if he hung on with a few HP left. He was expecting to be faster. Your Excadrill shouldn't have outsped unless it's scarfed, and I sure as gently caress wouldn't bank on an Excadrill being scarfed.
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Since people are suggesting you should have a bulky steel type for the Battle Maison, how well would a team based around a Metagross work?
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Nov 15, 2013 02:18
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I'm trying to get a lagging tail for my tricky sableeye. Is it possible to do horde battles with frisk or do you need to do 1-on-1 encounters?
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Nov 15, 2013 02:21
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Vahtooch posted:Since people are suggesting you should have a bulky steel type for the Battle Maison, how well would a team based around a Metagross work? Not very. Enjoy your crippling weakness to Sucker Punch.
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Nov 15, 2013 02:21
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Steel type with good resistances? Sounds like a job for Mawile!
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Caught a shiny! Poor you, you caught a shiny! Y'know, some of us still haven't seen a single goddamn wild shiny aside from Red Gyarados.  Anyway, hey, now you've got a stylin' HM slave!
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Nov 15, 2013 02:23
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LAY-ZX posted:He was expecting to be faster. Your Excadrill shouldn't have outsped unless it's scarfed, and I sure as gently caress wouldn't bank on an Excadrill being scarfed. A Modest Manectric on poor speed IVs can be outsped by a Jolly Excadrill with max Speed IV's and EV's assuming Sand Rush isn't active and the latter isn't scarfed. M-Manectric's speed won't kick in the same turn it Mega Evolves either (same with everything else). Strictly speaking, for Gyro Ball and Electro Ball calculations its new speed will be accounted for, but for turn order calculations the speed won't have been factored in because Turn Order is calculated before any inputs are taken for the turn, including Mega Evolution.
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Zoness posted:M-Manectric's speed won't kick in the exact turn it Mega Evolves either (same with everything else). Oh, I forgot about that.
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Nov 15, 2013 02:27
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Dropping pokepuffs is the best thing in pokemon amie. Their faces
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Pollyanna posted:Steel type with good resistances? Sounds like a job for Mawile! That could be cool. Are there any guides floating around for what you want in a good team for the Maison/online?
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DizzyBum posted:Poor you, you caught a shiny! Y'know, some of us still haven't seen a single goddamn wild shiny aside from Red Gyarados. I'd rather have no shiny than a poo poo shiny.  It's not my first, though. My first was a Snorunt in Pearl. A female, so I can turn it into Frosslass with an identical color scheme to the non-shiny version. 
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Just caught a shiny Ariados  It's in my top three favorites and I've been trying to breed for one since at least HG with no luck. Pop into friend safari for like five minutes, bam. Man, if I catch one more shiny in Y, I'll have enough for a full team.
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Zoness posted:A Modest Manectric on poor speed IVs can be outsped by a Jolly Excadrill with max Speed IV's and EV's assuming Sand Rush isn't active and the latter isn't scarfed. This was on Showdown, though, so even Modest Manectric will outspeed all non-Scarfed Excadrill outside of sand and OHKO with Overheat. They probably just weren't expecting a Scarf. Constable Lemon posted:I've been using Mega Pinsir on Showdown, and holy poo poo, I've never used a more reliable sweeper. Seriously, if this thing gets one Swords Dance down, it's all over. I had a match where I went from 2-6 to 2-0 because Mega Pinsir was able to set up on a Quagsire who failed to burn with Scald twice in a row. It even OHKO'd a Scarf Genesect with Quick Attack. With 125 base defense it will comfortably live through every priority move that isn't Talonflame's Brave Bird. This thing is truly terrifying, and I don't want to be around when everyone realizes how good it really is and starts running Skarmory and Rotom on every team. Oh don't worry, everyone above 2000 or so is already running physically defensive Rotom-W on every team just to deal with all the Talonflame, Tyranitar, Physical Aegislash and Sand Rush Excadrill out there right now. Rotom-W is probably the best defensive pokemon in the current metagame.
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Hot drat, I actually got a Yveltal for my shiny Gastrodon. 
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Constable Lemon posted:I've been using Mega Pinsir on Showdown, and holy poo poo, I've never used a more reliable sweeper. Seriously, if this thing gets one Swords Dance down, it's all over. I had a match where I went from 2-6 to 2-0 because Mega Pinsir was able to set up on a Quagsire who failed to burn with Scald twice in a row. It even OHKO'd a Scarf Genesect with Quick Attack. With 125 base defense it will comfortably live through every priority move that isn't Talonflame's Brave Bird. This thing is truly terrifying, and I don't want to be around when everyone realizes how good it really is and starts running Skarmory and Rotom on every team. EDIT: WrightOfWay posted:Oh don't worry, everyone above 2000 or so is already running physically defensive Rotom-W on every team just to deal with all the Talonflame, Tyranitar, Physical Aegislash and Sand Rush Excadrill out there right now. Rotom-W is probably the best defensive pokemon in the current metagame.  But every single one takes a Bullet Seed to the face and dies so they're not half as annoying unless Breloom dies first.EDIT2: On the Scarf/Speed talk, Showdown just has some issues sometimes. I've seen an opponent's Quick Claw activate only for me to still go first and kill them. Not fair at all, but I wasn't complaining. Cipher Pol 9 fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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WrightOfWay posted:This was on Showdown, though, so even Modest Manectric will outspeed all non-Scarfed Excadrill outside of sand and OHKO with Overheat. They probably just weren't expecting a Scarf. It wasn't Scarfed, though! I have literally no idea how he didn't outspeed me.
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Why is it that like everyone on GTS is asking for a Xerneas in exchange for their trash pokes but nobody seems to want to trade mine for their Yveltal? 
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Is there any functional difference between a pokemon with a primary type and a pokemon with that type as a secondary type? As in, Garchomp is Dragon/Ground, and Flygon is Ground/Dragon. Does it ever matter?
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myron cope posted:Is there any functional difference between a pokemon with a primary type and a pokemon with that type as a secondary type? As in, Garchomp is Dragon/Ground, and Flygon is Ground/Dragon. Does it ever matter? As far as the game is concerned, it's exactly the same.
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myron cope posted:Is there any functional difference between a pokemon with a primary type and a pokemon with that type as a secondary type? As in, Garchomp is Dragon/Ground, and Flygon is Ground/Dragon. Does it ever matter? It makes their Hall of Fame background different. Edit: In Gen 5.
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drat. Horde training is kind of crazy fast once you've got all the items in order. Can you have multiples of the Power items? Can't believe I spent so much time in ST
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:drat. Horde training is kind of crazy fast once you've got all the items in order. Can you have multiples of the Power items? Ya you can, just gotta farm for them.
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Mega Pinsir is awesome and bless you for being creative. At least he has an exploitable 4x weakness to go with his monstrous power, unlike Kangaskhan who won't go down until he's wrecked half my team. I only have the one fighter in Breloom, but I inevitably try to Mach Punch and get Faked Out/Sucker Punched, or I Spore for caution and get double Returned first. That Return, I swear. But alas, I am stubborn and refuse to rebuild to counter one Pokemon so I just kind of accept that I need to out-predict or lose when I see a Kangashkan. The team I've been running with seems to deal with most of the common Pokemon I see pretty well. Mega Pinsir Adamant, 252/252 Swords Dance Earthquake Quick Attack Return Adamant helps it kill things with Quick Attack and Return that it might have trouble with on Jolly, and it usually outspeeds everything it needs to use Return on anyway. Aegislash can't do a single thing to him, because Earthquake doesn't activate King's Sheild's attack drop, so I have no troubles with them. Steelix Relaxed 252/who cares Stealth Rock Roar Earthquake Gyro Ball Stealth Rock and Roar, pretty basic. I used Steelix just because I made this team for Pre-Bank OU but he's doing pretty well in post-bank. Sturdy is extremely useful to help me force out a sweeper or set up rocks, and he can tank Talonflame well enough to set up rocks and then Roar him out. Rotom-H @ Choice Scarf Timid 252/252 Trick Volt Switch Thunderbolt Overheat It seems like everyone has forgotten the potency of Trick-scarf. I lead with this guy, and he successfully cripples a Pokemon with Trick 90% of the time. Plus, if I get something locked into EQ, it makes it really easy to set up Pinsir. Gengar Timid 252/252 Substitute Disable Shadow Ball Dazzling Gleam Sub/Disable works just as well now as it did back in 5th gen. This guy is almost a hard counter to Mega Khangaskhan, and especially is if she's using Sucker Punch. I use Dazzling Gleam because I'm sick of Focus Blast missing, and it hits Super Effective on Dragon types. Tentacruel Bold i forget the evs Rapid Spin Sludge Bomb Scald Toxic Tentacruel is a great spinner, and is a really good counter (I would go as far as saying he's a "hard counter") to Azumarill, and can bulk a Talonflame alright. Other than that he's kind of meh. Scrafty Careful 252 hp 252 sp def  Shed Skin Bulk Up Rest Crunch Drain Punch This beautiful creature is what wins me at least half of my games. I can't tell you the number of times people switched in a Gliscor or Rotom, expecting to wall and stall with status, only to find themselves with a Bulk'd Up beast who is essentially immune to status. As long as they don't have any fairy types (which, thanks to team preview, I can find out right away), they pretty much can't power through this set once it's set up. The only Pokemon I see a lot who I have trouble with sometimes is Klefki, but usually the end up with a Choice Scarf on them, unless they are a Substitute variant. Talonflame can be tough too if I don't manage to get Stealth Rock up.
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Constable Lemon posted:The team I've been running with seems to deal with most of the common Pokemon I see pretty well. GokaiBlue (Greninja) (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Protean EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature - Ice Beam - Dark Pulse - Grass Knot - Hydro Pump KyoryuRed (Breloom) (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Technician Shiny: Yes EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature - Bullet Seed - Mach Punch - Stone Edge - Spore Funkfreed (Mamoswine) (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Thick Fat EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd Adamant Nature - Earthquake - Stealth Rock - Ice Shard - Stone Edge Gabutyra (Tyrantrum) (M) @ Assault Vest Ability: Strong Jaw EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd Adamant Nature - Ice Fang - Thunder Fang - Fire Fang - Crunch The Lady (Ampharos) (F) @ Ampharosite Ability: Static EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef Modest Nature - Focus Blast - Thunderbolt - Dragon Pulse - Hidden Power [Fire] Jetplane (Togekiss) (F) @ Life Orb Ability: Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef Modest Nature - Air Slash - Aura Sphere - Dazzling Gleam - Flamethrower
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:See, one day I'll realize I need to start playing smarter. 6 straight sweepers will only win as long as I can brute force my way through teams, as soon as someone realizes how weak I am to statuses (gently caress Will o Wisp) or exploits their ability to set up, I'm as good as swept 6-0. Here's my team. As you might quickly notice, my reliance on Life Orbs + Opponents setting up Webs/Stealth Rocks means I'm often dead. I've only recently started running Rocks myself, but I can rarely get them out safely. Both status and entry hazards can be dealt with if you just change up your Togekiss, actually. Togekiss @ Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef Calm Nature - Air Slash - Defog - Heal Bell - Wish Not a perfect solution, but this just might help you come back from the brink. Just gotta watch out for Taunt users. e: Also, for a bit of fun, if you find you're not using one of Ampharos' attacks much, replace it with Cotton Guard and watch him become an unbreakable tank. LAY-ZX fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:
When you decide on which moves to give to your pokemon, you should consider using moves that are of the same type as that pokemon. 3 fangs is a bit redundant in terms of coverage. Forgot that guy got strong jaw.
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LAY-ZX posted:Both status and entry hazards can be dealt with if you just change up your Togekiss, actually. I actually saw that advice earlier in the thread and ran it for a while. It was awesome for a few games, it took a Breloom's Focus Punch and only took 25% from it, but I just don't have the game sense to know when to use it yet. Usually I use it wrong and end up wasting the turn and dying the next one. As for Togekiss, I may give it a shot, but my current Togekiss does such a good job of dropping Dragons with Dazzle and plants with Air Slash. Plus, it exists almost entirely to Flamethrower and take down Ferroseeds and Forretresses before they can start setting up, and any Scizors that it can survive a Bullet Punch from. (Those 3 are the same reason I have HP Fire on Amphy.) That and Entry Hazards are only effective sometimes, I managed to win 3-0 against someone just now after they set up Stealth Rock and three layers of Spikes. I may drop Aura Sphere for Defog though, just in case, I only added that as another desperate attempt at hurting a Kangaskhan, which I never do because they always outspeed anyway.EDIT: Yeah, Strong Jaw makes that set do work. Sometimes I miss stab, but I like having a tool for almost every Pokemon type better. (Goddamn Faeries.)
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So my friend's game seems to be glitched. Every time she goes to access one of her boxes the game says it needs to be restarted and that there was an error. What can she do to fix the issue?
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myron cope posted:Is there any functional difference between a pokemon with a primary type and a pokemon with that type as a secondary type? As in, Garchomp is Dragon/Ground, and Flygon is Ground/Dragon. Does it ever matter? The type order only really matters as the Pokémon's design. The primary type is the central influence in the Pokemon's design. Flygon is a Ground type Pokemon as it's an antlion, an animal that spends the vast majority of its life living in holes it dug. Antlions also possess some mystical characteristics in myth and legend, as such it is also a Dragon type as a secondary aspect of it. Garchomp, on the other hand, is a Dragon first and foremost, as such it is primarily a Dragon type. It's a Ground type because it's a freaking land shark.
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Dr Pepper posted:Antlions also possess some mystical characteristics in myth and legend, as such it is also a Dragon type as a secondary aspect of it. Actually, I think it's because adult antlions are sometimes called "sand dragons", which in turn is because of their similarity to DRAGONflies.  Naturally, this also means Mega Yanmega will be Bug/Dragon.
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noirstronaut posted:Does Togepo come from an egg or is Togepi the egg I think Togepi is just supposed to br the egg. It was created to advertise the new breeding and baby Pokemon to the player, after all.
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