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Women's Rights? posted:well what is a good romancey manga then?
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Women's Rights? posted:well what is a good romancey manga then? Paradise Kiss, but you have to make it to the end.
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Nov 20, 2013 22:25
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Nov 20, 2013 22:27
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The Girl Who Leapt Through Time is amazing but that's an anime film (with an associated manga I haven't read) Princess Jellyfish/Kuragehime
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Nov 20, 2013 22:28
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Pick posted:Honeycrisp are really good, but SweeTango rates better on taste surveys, but people still don't want them as much. Really? I just discovered SweeTango and they're my new favorite. And Winecrisp. Winescrisp are amazing. Edit: dammit, I went to the store and now it's not applechat. Tora! Tora! Tora! fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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Nov 20, 2013 22:29
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Sabel posted:The Girl Who Leapt Through Time is amazing but that's an anime film (with an associated manga I haven't read) This is true, I liked that movie. I really liked Howl's Moving Castle it's so fantastically magical (another movie though i think it's a lot different from the book so hard to compare)
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Nov 20, 2013 22:32
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Women's Rights? posted:well what is a good romancey manga then? Oh, if you've read a lot of yaoi, which you admittedly have not, read Mirai no Kioku. It's basically taking the piss at normal yaoi plotlines, something the artist does a lot, only this one's a little longer and comes into its own too. It's something that doesn't make sense if you aren't familiar with the genre it's dissing though.
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Nov 20, 2013 22:35
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t_violet posted:Really? I just discovered SweeTango and they're my new favorite. And Winecrisp. Winescrisp are amazing. Don't feel bad, the only reason I am not at the store right now getting a honeycrisp is I'm finishing my cup of tea.
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Nov 20, 2013 22:39
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Shithouse Dave posted:Don't feel bad, the only reason I am not at the store right now getting a honeycrisp is I'm finishing my cup of tea. Everyone I know raves about honeycrisp, but they're too drat sweet and too drat big for me.  What I did find at the local hippie co-op store, though, is a type called Ambrosia, which are my new favorite.
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Nov 20, 2013 22:42
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Yaoi is problematic. Also an onomatopoeia.
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VanSandman posted:Yaoi is problematic. yeah it's problematic as gently caress on the whole but it's kinda fascinating too
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VanSandman posted:Yaoi is problematic. Could you tell me a little more about that? I'm kind of curious since I've heard things like that before.
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Yaoi is basically romance novels, but in comics form, primarily marketed at younger women. For the most part, these comics are only gay by fiat. They tend to be intensely misogynistic/homophobic (but really more misogynistic since often you don't even see the dil of the dude who is invariably on the bottom). It's gotten more complicated since the age of Gravitation and whatnot though.
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Pick posted:Oh, if you've read a lot of yaoi, which you admittedly have not, read Mirai no Kioku. It's basically taking the piss at normal yaoi plotlines, something the artist does a lot, only this one's a little longer and comes into its own too. It's something that doesn't make sense if you aren't familiar with the genre it's dissing though. Saiko Kunieda is like one of my top three writers. Also Yugi Yamanda and Nishisa Higashi for story. And Kaoru Uchida for big burly guys acting like twinks. Bu I haven't read manga in forever, I kinda miss the days of buying used manga on ebay and paying some random Polish student for bad translations.
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Hmm. I remember that big mega thread of the "my friend thinks she's married to anime guys" or something: Somewhere the topic of yaoi came up, and there was that disconnect on how her friend loved the yaoi so much, but didn't know a thing about sex or even what a penis looks like.
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Problematics are for people who can't drive problemanuals. 
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Shithouse Dave posted:Problematics are for people who can't drive problemanuals. niiiice
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That's why I never read any yaoi, I just figured it was porn for squeamish for people to actually read porn. If some of it's good though then sure, why not. I'm open minded!
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Wicker Man posted:Somewhere the topic of yaoi came up, and there was that disconnect on how her friend loved the yaoi so much, but didn't know a thing about sex or even what a penis looks like. Yeah, it's pretty weird since it's oriented towards people who are young and honestly kind of scared of sex. (They're often weirdly censored too, in part due to Japanese censorship laws.) People often scoff that it's not "real gays" and so women grow out of it, but a huge number of the women drawing quite realistic gay porn nowadays, and contributing to things like the Supernatural dog dick universe, have some yaoi exposure in their past.
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Pick posted:Oh, if you've read a lot of yaoi, which you admittedly have not, read Mirai no Kioku. It's basically taking the piss at normal yaoi plotlines, something the artist does a lot, only this one's a little longer and comes into its own too. It's something that doesn't make sense if you aren't familiar with the genre it's dissing though. Pick you're really cool and I like you but this is kinda a weird TMI thing you do, sharing details about erotica preferences in SA threads maybe it's just me I dunno
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t_violet posted:Saiko Kunieda is like one of my top three writers. Also Yugi Yamanda and Nishisa Higashi for story. And Kaoru Uchida for big burly guys acting like twinks. Bu I haven't read manga in forever, I kinda miss the days of buying used manga on ebay and paying some random Polish student for bad translations. I've gotten super picky about art styles for whatever reason, but Kunieda has a look that's pretty sketchy and reminds me of some indie comics I like.  You get the feeling she's kind of a dick about the genre she's in, but in a cool rogue way. Pick fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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Pick posted:Yaoi is basically romance novels, but in comics form, primarily marketed at younger women. For the most part, these comics are only gay by fiat. They tend to be intensely misogynistic/homophobic (but really more misogynistic since often you don't even see the dil of the dude who is invariably on the bottom). It's gotten more complicated since the age of Gravitation and whatnot though. I feel like a lot this is kinda just kinda Japan, rather than a reflection of the genre of comic. And it's like a lot of things, the quality of the writers is really variable, the good writers will address some of the issues, the bad writers just churn out crap equivalent to the worst of fanfiction.net.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Pick you're really cool and I like you but this is kinda a weird TMI thing you do, sharing details about erotica preferences in SA threads Yeah, it's pretty weird of me, but at the same time the rise of this stuff is a pretty interesting phenomenon, at least to me, since we've reached the point where TV shows reference it and people are, like, aware of it. It's in Barnes & Noble and poo poo, isn't that nuts?
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t_violet posted:I feel like a lot this is kinda just kinda Japan, rather than a reflection of the genre of comic. And it's like a lot of things, the quality of the writers is really variable, the good writers will address some of the issues, the bad writers just churn out crap equivalent to the worst of fanfiction.net. Honestly, as a rule, it's just loving awful, like as bad as your average fantasy novel. Only fantasy novels usually only have bad art on the cover.
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You're right Pick that it's no poo poo nuts and there's probably a legit cultural studies stuff that could be done on it but you're gonna get weird looks no matter where you bring it up because it's Japanese porn comics aimed at women who want to see dudes boning each other. And honestly I'd expect the same weird looks if I hypothetically began discussing the artistic ins and outs of playboy cartoons or "lesbian" porn videos.
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Pick posted:I know someone who thinks if you're wearing pantyhose then you don't have to wear underwear. I vehemently disagree, because then you get your pantyhose all crotchy. You need to avoid that because washing pantyhose is like a death sentence for them since they are made of angel's sneezes and ghost whispers. OH MY loving GOD, I KNOW SOMEONE THAT DOES THAT TOO!
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I have no interest in yaoi but I do think MMA fights are pretty hot if they're decently attractive and start grappling and whatnot
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GrrrlSweatshirt posted:I have no interest in yaoi but I do think MMA fights are pretty hot if they're decently attractive and start grappling and whatnot in the terrible movie reign of fire there is a part where christian bale and matthew mcconaughey get in a shirtless brawl in the dirt it isn't the worst part of that movie at all
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Pick posted:I've gotten super picky about art styles for whatever reason, but Kunieda has a look that's pretty sketchy and reminds me of some indie comics I like. Nishida Higashi used to be the worst artist but her stories were so interesting (and actually had grown ups, not school boys), that it didn't matter. I think she must've hired a ghost artist 'cause she's much better now. ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:You're right Pick that it's no poo poo nuts and there's probably a legit cultural studies stuff that could be done on it but you're gonna get weird looks no matter where you bring it up because it's Japanese porn comics aimed at women who want to see dudes boning each other. The interesting thing about yaoi and slash is that it's romance and porn for women by women and it's pretty different from what it seems men think women want.
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Odd anthropological question for you ladies that like to watch men grapple and fight. Does it matter if one guy wins or do you just like the martial combat?
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A Spider Covets posted:illidan's upper half pretty hot, lower half needs some adjustment, doesn't he have goat feet? I can't remember, despite sitting at his feet stabbing lamely at them for a long time Thanks to a severe obsession with mythology as a kid, I find horns/antlers and hooves on a person pretty loving sexy. Yes, I rerolled to a draenei and have a tattoo of Pan. Why do you ask?
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:in the terrible movie reign of fire there is a part where christian bale and matthew mcconaughey get in a shirtless brawl in the dirt We need to bring back ancient Greece-style wrestling, I would watch the poo poo out of that. VendaGoat posted:Odd anthropological question for you ladies that like to watch men grapple and fight. I don't have much investment in who wins or loses, I just like watching them wrassle eachother. It's nice having something you can watch with the boyfriend and both enjoy for different reasons. GrrrlSweatshirt fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:so do those waist-length pantyhose deals do they have like crotch holes so you can go the bathroom or do you have to pull them down every time You pull them down every time. There is a 100% chance you will cause a run this way
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VendaGoat posted:Odd anthropological question for you ladies that like to watch men grapple and fight. I think they just like two presumably hot dudes rolling around with each other, like how men supposedly like seeing two women fighting according to sitcoms and comedies.
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Bag of Hamsters posted:Thanks to a severe obsession with mythology as a kid, I find horns/antlers and hooves on a person pretty loving sexy. the 2008 rpg rise of the argonauts had a really good iteration of pan despite being a terribly flawed game yes hello i am full of trivia about lovely and obscure media today
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:in the terrible movie reign of fire there is a part where christian bale and matthew mcconaughey get in a shirtless brawl in the dirt How about Ravenous? Great movie. t_violet posted:The interesting thing about yaoi and slash is that it's romance and porn for women by women and it's pretty different from what it seems men think women want. Yeah! That's the loving thing. It's so loving weird and it's so weird it happened. Only I'm not sure how weird the content is in the context of porn, period, as opposed to traditional women's-oriented porn. Like someone linked that VC Andrews screenshot that showed that only one of her books didn't have incest or something? I mean what the ever-loving christ!  I don't get it. And that's why it's fascinating. (I think it's just because bookstores didn't seem to realize its content back in the day so it was the easiest porn for women for highschoolers to get. All you needed was the balls to walk in and buy it.) Pick fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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Women's Rights? posted:You pull them down every time. There is a 100% chance you will cause a run this way there is a 100% chance i'll cause a run by looking at tights ;(
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emminou posted:there is a 100% chance i'll cause a run by looking at tights ;( If you think about runs a run will immediately appear on your tights
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