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LAY-ZX
Nov 10, 2009

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

What, uh... what's the scoop on Gardevoir? Are people into that?

Man a guy asked about a fanart site and I linked it, why do you people have to get weird about it

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horriblePencilist
Oct 18, 2012

It's a Dirt Devil!
Get it?


New Shinies. Vullaby took me a while, but Sneasel followed right after.

I'm kinda sour that I can't really use Vullaby. Foul Play is a tutor move only and Roost is an egg move. Same with Sneasel, a lot of attacks aren't accessible.

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

LAY-ZX posted:

Man a guy asked about a fanart site and I linked it, why do you people have to get weird about it

WHO'S THAT POKEMON?



IT'S PROBOPASS!

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


horriblePencilist posted:

I'm kinda sour that I can't really use Vullaby. Foul Play is a tutor move only and Roost is an egg move. Same with Sneasel, a lot of attacks aren't accessible.

Roost is a TM now, at least.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

deadly_pudding posted:

WHO'S THAT POKEMON?



IT'S PROBOPASS!

At last, somebody catering to MY tastes.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

horriblePencilist posted:



I'm kinda sour that I can't really use Vullaby. Foul Play is a tutor move only and Roost is an egg move. Same with Sneasel, a lot of attacks aren't accessible.

That's a shame that shiny Sneasel looks so awesome has no good moves at all...

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

deadly_pudding posted:

WHO'S THAT POKEMON?



IT'S PROBOPASS!

The internet still manages to surprise me to this very day. In this case, I'm not surprised that bearded Pokeladies is a thing; I just never expected to run into it. Ever.



When do I finally get my hands on a Ditto in X/Y? Gettin' tired of waiting, now. One more badge to go, frustration rising.

horriblePencilist
Oct 18, 2012

It's a Dirt Devil!
Get it?

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

That's a shame that shiny Sneasel looks so awesome has no good moves at all...

Well, I probably was exaggerating a bit. It still gets Ice Shard and Night Slash, two very essential moves. I would have loved it knowing Knock Off, though.

Emong posted:

Roost is a TM now, at least.

Oh yeah, it is! Thank god. It has a lax nature and I can't make it the Aegislash-killer I want it to be, but at least I can run a standard Toxic set.


How many shinies do you guys have accumulated so far? I got 10, 1 in the wild at random, 4 during chain fishing and 5 in the friend safari.

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

Haven't played competitively (actually not at all) since over a year and a half ago and planning to hit Showdown while gen 6 is still fresh but not too new. Did it end becoming an ultraoffensive mess or are thing like dual screen offense still viable?

horriblePencilist posted:



New Shinies. Vullaby took me a while, but Sneasel followed right after.

I'm kinda sour that I can't really use Vullaby. Foul Play is a tutor move only and Roost is an egg move. Same with Sneasel, a lot of attacks aren't accessible.

This is why isn't really worth it doing things for older pokemon in a new generation in the first pair of games without transferring from an older gen.
I still wonder why no pokebank until December, as well

Hardcordion
Feb 5, 2008

BARK BARK BARK

LAY-ZX posted:

I believe you're referring to this?

That's the one!

deadly_pudding posted:

Amazingly, I didn't find anything completely regrettable on my trip down the Gothitelle page. I was not brave enough to check Gardevoir.

All the weird porn/fetish stuff is filtered out, thank god. EDIT: Only most of it, apparently. God dammit.

Hardcordion fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Nov 21, 2013

Unbound
Dec 11, 2012

Atlantis for best map

All others are bugged...

Shinjobi posted:

When do I finally get my hands on a Ditto in X/Y? Gettin' tired of waiting, now. One more badge to go, frustration rising.

They're in the forest next to the last gym town.

horriblePencilist
Oct 18, 2012

It's a Dirt Devil!
Get it?

qnqnx posted:

Haven't played competitively (actually not at all) since over a year and a half ago and planning to hit Showdown while gen 6 is still fresh but not too new. Did it end becoming an ultraoffensive mess or are thing like dual screen offense still viable?


This is why isn't really worth it doing things for older pokemon in a new generation in the first pair of games without transferring from an older gen.
I still wonder why no pokebank until December, as well

What do you mean, end becoming? Was it ever not a terrible reign of stage hazards and fast sweepers? But yeah, you can totally pull off support characters. A lot of people underestimate how bulky some Mons can get, and if you have a bulky dual screener like Audino, it's easy to stay alive unless you run facefirst into an SE attack.

As for the second thing, I haven't played Pokemon since Leaf Green, so I don't really have the resources of the older games available. I'm sure X and Y will get a move tutor in one way or another, but should it not come to that (which would suck and be a huge blow to folks like me), I'd probably ask someone trustworthy to transfer my mons, move them to B/W and move tutor them up. You'd do that for me, right?
Right? :ohdear:

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

horriblePencilist posted:

How many shinies do you guys have accumulated so far?

Zero, aside from a shiny remoraid a friend traded me for some of my breeding stock :3:

Probably because I've spent maybe 20 hours out of the 170 logged actually trying to catch things.

vvv yeah but Roost TM and the much better egg moves mechanic owns bones.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
X/Y is actually really lacking in Move Tutors. The only moves tutorable right now are the Pledge moves, the typed Hyper Beams, and Draco Meteor. I'm sure that's something else they're holding onto until Z.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Christo posted:

All the weird porn/fetish stuff is filtered out, thank god.

Were we looking at the same site? Because I saw something fetish related for almost every pokemon I looked at. That said this line of discussion is making me hate the internet so I'll stop thinking about it now.


...so how about Maractus? Is that pokemon good for anything practical? Want to make my own cool little dancing cactus dude but he seems kind of terrible.

The Leper Colon V posted:

X/Y is actually really lacking in Move Tutors. The only moves tutorable right now are the Pledge moves, the typed Hyper Beams, and Draco Meteor. I'm sure that's something else they're holding onto until Z.

This annoys me a lot since some old pokemon really need their move tutor stuff. I breed a special attack Whiscash and he's not nearly as effective as he could be since he doesn't have access to a good special ground move. His best one, Earth Power, is tutor exclusive.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Shinjobi posted:

The internet still manages to surprise me to this very day. In this case, I'm not surprised that bearded Pokeladies is a thing; I just never expected to run into it. Ever.



When do I finally get my hands on a Ditto in X/Y? Gettin' tired of waiting, now. One more badge to go, frustration rising.

You're coming up to them right now actually, you'll have to go look for the next gym leader somewhere and they'll be where you find him.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

horriblePencilist posted:

How many shinies do you guys have accumulated so far?

Just one. If not for the fact that Bank hasn't hit yet, people would probably think it's just the Lake of Rage Gyarados. :argh:

The Leper Colon V posted:

X/Y is actually really lacking in Move Tutors. The only moves tutorable right now are the Pledge moves, the typed Hyper Beams, and Draco Meteor. I'm sure that's something else they're holding onto until Z.

The first games of a generation are always lacking in Move Tutors, for some strange reason. Hyper Voice Pixilate Sylveon sounds really fun to play with but we won't be getting that til next month. :(

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

horriblePencilist posted:

What do you mean, end becoming? Was it ever not a terrible reign of stage hazards and fast sweepers? But yeah, you can totally pull off support characters. A lot of people underestimate how bulky some Mons can get, and if you have a bulky dual screener like Audino, it's easy to stay alive unless you run facefirst into an SE attack.

As for the second thing, I haven't played Pokemon since Leaf Green, so I don't really have the resources of the older games available. I'm sure X and Y will get a move tutor in one way or another, but should it not come to that (which would suck and be a huge blow to folks like me), I'd probably ask someone trustworthy to transfer my mons, move them to B/W and move tutor them up. You'd do that for me, right?
Right? :ohdear:

Mostly my own predictions after seeing the latest changes in this new gen, and trending from gen 5 being considerably more easy for all out offensive teams.
Never actually tried Audino for screening, I favored Bronzong and Claydol gor that.


The Leper Colon V posted:

X/Y is actually really lacking in Move Tutors. The only moves tutorable right now are the Pledge moves, the typed Hyper Beams, and Draco Meteor. I'm sure that's something else they're holding onto until Z.

That's what they usually do, yeah.

horriblePencilist
Oct 18, 2012

It's a Dirt Devil!
Get it?
^^ Yeah, Bronzong is probably better. I'm just used to using NU-pokemon.

Internet Kraken posted:

Were we looking at the same site? Because I saw something fetish related for almost every pokemon I looked at. That said this line of discussion is making me hate the internet so I'll stop thinking about it now.


...so how about Maractus? Is that pokemon good for anything practical? Want to make my own cool little dancing cactus dude but he seems kind of terrible.

She's solid NU material, but she has some stuff going for her. Access to Leech Seed, Ingrain, Giga Drain and Water Absorb give it good survivability (although it has poor defenses), and access to Spikes is always nice. Storm Drain make her a good double partner, and if you can predict a Water-attack, you can get a free attack boost. However, her thin defenses and low speed (unless you have a sun-team) force her to be utility and support at best.

I really wish she was good, one of my favorite Pokemon.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

Internet Kraken posted:

...so how about Maractus? Is that pokemon good for anything practical? Want to make my own cool little dancing cactus dude but he seems kind of terrible.

It has pretty neat abilities but as a Chlorophyll sweeper it is generally less impressive than Venusaur.

It's a pretty cool sunnybeamer and it gets cotton guard (+3 defense stages whoo), meaning you could do some silly wall gimmick along with leech seed with it and sucker punch can catch people off guard.

The Golden Gael
Nov 12, 2011

quote:

I'm kinda sour that I can't really use Vullaby. Foul Play is a tutor move only and Roost is an egg move.
Roost is a TM move too now.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Christo posted:

That's the one!


All the weird porn/fetish stuff is filtered out, thank god. EDIT: Only most of it, apparently. God dammit.

Still, I can look up Pokemon without seeing endless waves of slapped on boobs (well, outside Gardevior, but even she's limited thankfully) and fat fetish pictures, so it's good enough.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


qnqnx posted:

Mostly my own predictions after seeing the latest changes in this new gen, and trending from gen 5 being considerably more easy for all out offensive teams.
Never actually tried Audino for screening, I favored Bronzong and Claydol gor that.


That's what they usually do, yeah.

Klefki has priority dual screens and fantastic typing. Only decent bulk and no recovery can be a problem if you want something that can set up screens multiple times per game, though.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


I caught a shiny Tentacool in R/S because 95% of all Pokemon you will ever see in those games is a Tentacool.

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

WrightOfWay posted:

Klefki has priority dual screens and fantastic typing. Only decent bulk and no recovery can be a problem if you want something that can set up screens multiple times per game, though.

Recovery would have been nice but Bronzong didn't have it either, don't remember if Claydol does but I didn't use it.
It's mostly for setting then up once and then be able to set up a sweeper with more ease.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


qnqnx posted:

Recovery would have been nice but Bronzong didn't have it either, don't remember if Claydol does but I didn't use it.
It's mostly for setting then up once and then be able to set up a sweeper with more ease.

In that case it's a bit of a sidegrade from Bronzong or Uxie. It can set up screens easier but doesn't have Explosion or Memento to give you a free switch in.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream
Looks like the Event Legendaries stats were leaked.



Interestingly Diancie's stats are really similar to Carbink. And she does look a lot like a Carbink Evo

horriblePencilist
Oct 18, 2012

It's a Dirt Devil!
Get it?
^^ Hoopa :stare: Well, there goes my assumption Gen 6 would introduce more sensible pokemon.

Also gently caress yeah first Water/Fire dualtype.

Geostomp posted:

Still, I can look up Pokemon without seeing endless waves of slapped on boobs (well, outside Gardevior, but even she's limited thankfully) and fat fetish pictures, so it's good enough.


The trick is that I found it under Braviary.

horriblePencilist fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Nov 21, 2013

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Looks like the Event Legendaries stats were leaked.



Interestingly Diancie's stats are really similar to Carbink. And she does look a lot like a Carbink Evo

These stats are listed in the order of HP/ATK/Sp.ATK/Sp.Def/Defense/Speed

Don't ask why, I couldn't tell you.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Those base stats seem off though.

There's no Mew analog, with 100 in each base stat. Unless they're planning to have a bunch of Mew events to just add to the RBY throwbacks it seems a bit odd.

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Oh god finally, a completely specially inclined rock-type that's actually good.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Ruggington posted:

Oh god finally, a completely specially inclined rock-type that's actually good.

Still won't learn Power Gem.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Emalde posted:

These stats are listed in the order of HP/ATK/Sp.ATK/Sp.Def/Defense/Speed

Don't ask why, I couldn't tell you.

Meaning Diancie is a 175 base special attacker with 175 physical defense?

Yes please baton pass quiver dance onto that thing and watch everyone die.

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Dr Pepper posted:

Still won't learn Power Gem.

I'll make due with Earth Power and Draining Kiss

gently caress it I'll take rock throw

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Emalde posted:

These stats are listed in the order of HP/ATK/Sp.ATK/Sp.Def/Defense/Speed

Don't ask why, I couldn't tell you.

So Hoopa has...155 SpDef and 125 speed? What? :psyduck:

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Internet Kraken posted:

So Hoopa has...155 SpDef and 125 speed? What? :psyduck:

CAN'T GIVE UP THE GHOST!

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.

Internet Kraken posted:

So Hoopa has...155 SpDef and 125 speed? What? :psyduck:

Yes. Honestly, if it had any stats very different from that, it would be probably one of the most worthless legendaries conceived due to that awful type pairing.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Emalde posted:

Yes. Honestly, if it had any stats very different from that, it would be probably one of the most worthless legendaries conceived due to that awful type pairing.

Let's see that's x4 Ghost, x4 Dark, x2 Bug right?

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Let's see that's x4 Ghost, x4 Dark, x2 Bug right?

Ghost resists Bug, but jeez do those quad weaknesses hurt a lot.

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ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Ruggington posted:

Ghost resists Bug, but jeez do those quad weaknesses hurt a lot.

Yeah, any special sweeper worth their salt is packing one of those two, meaning if Hoopa's not Fast as hell He's Dead.

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