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Not sure about the neck, but you could call Gibson. Black Friday is next week
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# ? May 22, 2024 08:23 |
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Jacks can just get loose where the layers come together too they are just pressed together. Years of having things inserted and pulled out can take its toll. A quality jack is a cheap fix.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 00:54 |
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Well my good deal from Guitar Center is a bust(Full story a few pages back... TL:DR version: Guitarcenter.com price matched me on a deal a found online from a sketchy site ). Guitar came today, but it wasn't in the retail box, it was just bubbled wrapped and stuck in a generic box. The plastic on the pickguard was gone too, so I know it's not a "new" guitar. The best part is the pickup toggle is cutting in and out. Other than that, the guitar looks perfect. No scratches or dings or anything, and sounds amazing. I can't decide if I should just fix the toggle, return it, or ask them to send me an actual new one. Sidenote: the pickup switching is loving weird on this guitar, I'm pretty sure the middle and bridge position on the 3 way toggle are the same, both middle and bride at once. at least I can't hear any difference. I can't find a wiring diagram anywhere, or even any info on this model, anywhere. Reference: How hard would it be to change it to a 5 way rotary toggle? I am pretty bad with electronics, but I imagine I could probably figure it out.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 02:52 |
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Dirt posted:Well my good deal from Guitar Center is a bust(Full story a few pages back... TL:DR version: Guitarcenter.com price matched me on a deal a found online from a sketchy site ). Good to know that Guitar Center is still the worst.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 03:09 |
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nrr posted:Also, here's what got me when I was looking for my LP originally. I wasn't a big fan of either the fat 50's style neck, or the thin 60's style neck, but ended up falling in love with what I think is a combination of the two. At the time, the only LP I could find it on (that wasn't a $5k custom shop,) was a 2008 Standard. Looking on the Gibson website, they just call it an "Asymetrical neck," but looking at the details on the LPs on Sweetwater, some of them are listed as 60's Slim Tapered, some of them say Asymetrical 60's Slim Tapered. Is there a difference? Is the Asymetrical 60's Slim Tapered even the one I want, or is that just another name for the regular 60's slim neck? Asymmetrical necks aren't the same as regular necks. Basically the back of the neck is at an angle that is supposed to curve to your hand better than the standard 'C' shape. Here's a handy image:
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 06:22 |
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Uh oh I think I want to end up with a '13 SG standard because reasons/they're cheap!
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 09:08 |
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Side Effects posted:Asymmetrical necks aren't the same as regular necks. Basically the back of the neck is at an angle that is supposed to curve to your hand better than the standard 'C' shape. Here's a handy image: So like you said, asymmetrical necks aren't the same as a regular neck, so what the hell is an "asymmetrical 60s neck" then? I've never heard of it. Is it just another name for the standard asymmetrical? Is it a different type of asymmetrical neck that's slimmer? Is it just a dumb misprint? Because all the cut/paste writeups mention 60s slim taper neck, but then in the specs, only some of them say asymmetrical 60s neck, while some of them just say 60s neck. The 60s and the asymmetrical are different types of neck profile so "60s asymmetrical" makes no sense to me.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 12:40 |
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Wouldn't it be an asymmetrical variation on the standard 60's profile? Something like this So it's the same thickness (for the 'normal' ones anyway), it's just that the fattest point is offset more towards the bass side. I don't know exactly what that would feel like, but that's what I'd assume anyway
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 12:48 |
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OK I'm seriously considering being a really bad boy and buying a Gibson SG Future Tribute in Vintage Sunburst. http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-GIB-SGTRF-LIST Will I regret this? e: welp, I went for it anyway. They have a warehouse near me so I should be getting it on like Tuesday TopherCStone fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Nov 23, 2013 |
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TopherCStone posted:OK I'm seriously considering being a really bad boy and buying a Gibson SG Future Tribute in Vintage Sunburst. http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-GIB-SGTRF-LIST I find the lack of tuning keys on those Gibsons......... disconcerting. Let us know how weird, or not it looks in person.
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HollisBrown posted:I find the lack of tuning keys on those Gibsons......... disconcerting. Let us know how weird, or not it looks in person. I think it looks pretty neat and if they're anything like the ones they put on Firebirds sometimes they're pretty cool. I've only touched them once but they seemed great. I'll definitely post some impressions and real world pictures when it comes in. Is it ok to post a link to my SA Mart thread in here? I'm not sure if it belongs in the trades thread.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 18:31 |
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TopherCStone posted:OK I'm seriously considering being a really bad boy and buying a Gibson SG Future Tribute in Vintage Sunburst. http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-GIB-SGTRF-LIST Let us know what you think. I had a first one 60's Tribute. P90s. It was pretty solid. They put binding and better pickups on it and sold it as the Pete Townshend Anniversary :P. Have heard different things about the Latest batch.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 19:38 |
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I need the help of some Squire aficionados. I'm going to get a Squire Stratocaster, but I'm not sure which version I want. I've tried a Bullet, Affinity, and some others, and what I like most about the ones I've played is the satin-type finish on the neck. I don't really care for a gloss neck. I'm not exactly sure which ones have a satin finish on the neck, though. I don't want to spend a ton on it, as I will probably end up replacing the pickups with some GFS pickups, but really, it depends on how the stock pickups are. I'm thinking about $300 at the most.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 23:43 |
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Koth posted:I need the help of some Squire aficionados. Bullets have a satin neck and I actually really like them. Be warned that the body is thinner than others so if you ever decide to upgrade the trem block the plastic trem cover on the back might not fit anymore
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 00:02 |
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I don't think anybody prefers the gloss neck. But satin neck has become like a feature- I think all Fender-Fenders now do satin on the back of the neck regardless of whats going on with the fretboard. However, if you got gloss on the back then you can't just sand it down- it's there to protect the wood.
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 03:11 |
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You can sand it down as long as you don't go through the sealer, and you'll bring it to a matte finish loooooooong before you get through the sealant layer.
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 03:15 |
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TopherCStone posted:Bullets have a satin neck and I actually really like them. Be warned that the body is thinner than others so if you ever decide to upgrade the trem block the plastic trem cover on the back might not fit anymore Thanks, I didn't know that about the thinner bodies. I do plan to block the trem with whatever model I end up with. I have no use for a tremolo. I wonder how that would effect the Bullet being that it has a thinner body.
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TopherCStone posted:OK I'm seriously considering being a really bad boy and buying a Gibson SG Future Tribute in Vintage Sunburst. http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-GIB-SGTRF-LIST 57's and Steinberg tuners? How could that possibly go wrong?
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 05:06 |
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How are 57s?
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 05:13 |
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muike posted:You can sand it down as long as you don't go through the sealer, and you'll bring it to a matte finish loooooooong before you get through the sealant layer. #0000 steel wool fixes it right up. Takes two minutes and you can buff it right back to shiny if you decide you hate it. Koth posted:I need the help of some Squire aficionados. I'd keep an eye out for some of Squier's VM or CV stuff going on sale for Black Friday/assorted Christmas sales. The stock Duncan Designed in those are actually really solid pickups, on par with GFS in a lot of cases (unless you have a specific sound in your head, in which case the DDs can sound a bit generic). You may have to check the wiring; I got a VM Jazzmaster with a bad jack recently but for the most part they're super solid out of the box.
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Kilometers Davis posted:How are 57s? I have the 490/498 combo in my SG, and I like those way more than the 57s.
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Declan MacManus posted:#0000 steel wool fixes it right up. Takes two minutes and you can buff it right back to shiny if you decide you hate it. I've got a scotch-brite scrubbing pad I use for it. It's so bad in the powerglove way
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 06:37 |
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Professor Science posted:I got a Les Paul Signature T a few months ago and despised those pickups. Not sure if they're overwound in that particular guitar (I couldn't find any meaningful specs anywhere), but it just didn't matter how hard I picked or how the knobs were set, it sounded like I was using fuzz and a compressor the entire time. Replaced with Bare Knuckle Mules, and now it's a great guitar (light touch cleans up a bit, hard picking gets more output, yay). Interesting, thanks. Did you mess with the pickup levels on the 57s? I've heard slight adjustment can cause massive changes in the tone and dynamics with them.
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 07:18 |
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Kilometers Davis posted:Interesting, thanks. Did you mess with the pickup levels on the 57s? I've heard slight adjustment can cause massive changes in the tone and dynamics with them.
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 07:40 |
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muike posted:You can sand it down as long as you don't go through the sealer, and you'll bring it to a matte finish loooooooong before you get through the sealant layer. I've got a mahogany neck from Warmoth and the satin finish eventually wears down to glossy from playing; I hope to sand through the finish some time this decade maybe? Even with maple if the thing has stayed unbowed after years and years you're probably OK to have it unfinished eventually, so long as you make sure it gets protected periodically with lemon oil or what-not
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 11:10 |
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Gunstock wax is the way to go if you like glossy finishes. It's like an ice rink but instead of figure 8s you do crazy interval leaps. E: nothing with silicon in it, though, that poo poo gets gummy
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 15:52 |
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Declan MacManus posted:Gunstock wax is the way to go if you like glossy finishes. It's like an ice rink but instead of figure 8s you do crazy interval leaps. Do you mean like Tru-Oil or something else?
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Schlieren posted:Even with maple if the thing has stayed unbowed after years and years you're probably OK to have it unfinished eventually, so long as you make sure it gets protected periodically with lemon oil or what-not If you're gonna go for the raw feel, a couple coats of tung oil knocked down with #0000 steel wool does the trick while not having to worry about maintenance or humidity changes.
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 19:34 |
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The guys I play with tune to 432hz. I've never really futzed around with stuff like that (normally went by Eb, D, etc). Is there a particular reason? I didn't really ask why they did, just nodded and dropped everything accordingly. I assume it's just for a slightly heavier sound?
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 01:27 |
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Some think it makes harmonics stronger. A=432hz has to do with pythagorean tuning, but that doesn't work with a 12-TET fretboard, so all they're doing is just tuning down a few cent. e: fun fact earlier pitch pipes were all over the place with A anywhere from 380 to 480hz, and 440 wasn't standardized as concert pitch until the early 20th century, and some orchestras and ensembles still tune to 442 or 443. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Nov 25, 2013 |
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I just picked up a very cool old Peavey 212 cabinet. Looks like this I also found a Peavey of the same era, but it's a 215 and it's loaded with Eminence Big Bens... And I'm very tempted to go get it. The seller is only asking $150 How idiotic would this be? It'd make for such a cool stack, and I'd be running them with a Peavey VTM120 that absolutely roars.
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Sockington posted:The guys I play with tune to 432hz. I've never really futzed around with stuff like that (normally went by Eb, D, etc). Is there a particular reason? I didn't really ask why they did, just nodded and dropped everything accordingly. They're trying to heal their body and spirit, maaaan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7kF47qRkmA
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comes along bort posted:Some think it makes harmonics stronger. A=432hz has to do with pythagorean tuning, but that doesn't work with a 12-TET fretboard, so all they're doing is just tuning down a few cent. Yeah, I saw some documentary years ago that talked a bit about not just reference pitch, but the standarization of actual intervals between notes as well that didn't happen until hunderds of years ago. Then they showed what was I think a remote South American village that had been completely isolated from any kind of standardized music, but still had some similar instruments and the whole town was hilariously jamming away and dancing down the street having the time of their lives to one of the most hideous tunes I've ever heard. Of course what sounds terrible to us, sounds perfectly in tune and normal to them because it's the only tuning they've ever known. I can only imagine how hilariously terrible literally everything we consider to be the cornerstones and pinnacles of music would sound to them.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 02:59 |
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Hypnolobster posted:I just picked up a very cool old Peavey 212 cabinet. Looks like this The two eminence big bens are worth more than $150 alone. They're great drivers.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 03:13 |
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Does anybody want to collaborate on a submission for the GBS Christmas album thread? I kind of want to do a xenochrony kind of thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenochrony Basically we each play something and then cram them together then put some christmas lyrics on the top
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 03:37 |
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Professor Science posted:I got a Les Paul Signature T a few months ago and despised those pickups. Not sure if they're overwound in that particular guitar (I couldn't find any meaningful specs anywhere), but it just didn't matter how hard I picked or how the knobs were set, it sounded like I was using fuzz and a compressor the entire time. Replaced with Bare Knuckle Mules, and now it's a great guitar (light touch cleans up a bit, hard picking gets more output, yay). Opposite for me. 57s are classic wind, so not overwound. I think they're around 7k, which is my sweet spot. Less than Burst Buckers, actually, which are in the Tweedy. I haven't liked the 490's in anything. Had them in an SG for a while.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 03:54 |
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Hypnolobster posted:I also found a Peavey of the same era, but it's a 215 and it's loaded with Eminence Big Bens... That would make a great doom setup.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 04:06 |
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nrr posted:Yeah, I saw some documentary years ago that talked a bit about not just reference pitch, but the standarization of actual intervals between notes as well that didn't happen until hunderds of years ago. Then they showed what was I think a remote South American village that had been completely isolated from any kind of standardized music, but still had some similar instruments and the whole town was hilariously jamming away and dancing down the street having the time of their lives to one of the most hideous tunes I've ever heard. I need to see this.
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TopherCStone posted:Do you mean like Tru-Oil or something else? Tru-Oil works but it can take a while to dry. Any sort of linseed or tung oil will typically work.
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TopherCStone posted:Does anybody want to collaborate on a submission for the GBS Christmas album thread? I kind of want to do a xenochrony kind of thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenochrony I would love to do this!
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