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Majorian posted:You're joking here, right? Because that seems like a very, very bad idea. I'm guessing it was a joke because that entire post is a string of terrible business ideas that appeal to hardcore fans but nobody else.
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The_Frag_Man posted:This is pretty believable. drat dawg you must believe some pretty stupid stuff
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Astro7x posted:You know, sales were fine last year in November and December. Then 2013 came along with the Year of Luigi. I blame Luigi for all of this, nobody wants to buy a system for Luigi... gently caress I think you're onto something.
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PrBacterio posted:This theory makes me sad, but I can't find a single argument to refute it The sales were better (not good) because the Wii U had just loving launched you dummy.
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Fallom posted:The sales were better (not good) because the Wii U had just loving launched you dummy.  )
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Ka0 posted:The time for small adjustments is over. It's time for radical action. No one cares about (or even knows anything about) Mother except for super nerds. Sarcasm/Joke detector brokeded, I guess. GOOCHY fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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GOOCHY posted:No one cares about (or even knows anything about) Mother except for super nerds. It was a joke.
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I saddens my heart to think that you'd consider making one good Metroid game a joke 
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Ka0 posted:I saddens my heart to think that you'd consider making one good Metroid game a joke Metroid is dead. Let us remember the good times in peace. 
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Metroid is dead, yet Tomb Raider lives on due to Terry Prachett's daughter. It's also gotten 4 good games in the same spam of time Metroid only got one.
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The Taint Reaper posted:Metroid is dead, yet Tomb Raider lives on due to Terry Prachett's daughter. Angel of Darkness is The Last Of Us compared to Other M.
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Fulchrum posted:Angel of Darkness is The Last Of Us compared to Other M. I really, really wish Nintendo had learned the right lesson from that misstep. But that wish only comes true in the fairyland where entertainment executives in any medium realized that sometimes it's not the franchise or the characters that are the problems. Sometimes the problems are just a couple shittily made games/movies/episodes/ad campaigns.
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Majorian posted:I really, really wish Nintendo had learned the right lesson from that misstep. But that wish only comes true in the fairyland where entertainment executives in any medium realized that sometimes it's not the franchise or the characters that are the problems. Sometimes the problems are just a couple shittily made games/movies/episodes/ad campaigns. I think stuff is probably going to change within the next year or so. It would be wonderful if NOA was allowed to have full control over their region instead of going by what NOJ dictates. NOA would then be able to bring over the Japanese games that were forbidden to be released in America. Hell they could maybe even go as far as setting up a PS+ like service and give free digital downloads. Even Sega is brining over their weird rear end Japanese games to America because there's a market for them. Despite what people may think the Wii Train sims were probably the most solid and best around. And they were honestly way more fun than stuff like Wii Fit, they were games that you could actually play for hours on end. I mean geez they released Endless Ocean 1 and 2 in America and diving sims aren't really all that far off from the appeal of train sims. You're just chilling for hours on end exploring the country side. The Taint Reaper fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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I still think their best option was to ditch the tablet and slash the price $100 or more, and have a redesigned marketing campaign about 6-8 months ago. The biggest impediment to selling the things is the price, if they can't get third parties and they can't cut the price, then they'll sell like poo poo regardless of how good or bad the marketing is. The tablet is useless in most games I've seen, and nobody is excited about like the wiimote. I don't think the backlash from diehard nintendo fans would have any actual effect. That's not really a good option, but it's not like they're going to sell less consoles than if they continue the present track. It seems to me that was/is the only thing they could change to actually sell more of them. Someone mentioned earlier that nintendo refuses to play along with the rising costs of game production in general, but the reason that's a problem is that they won't embrace being a bargain console maker. You can either spend money and make a good console, or you can not spend money and make a cheap console, but you can't do something in between. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Fulchrum posted:Angel of Darkness is The Last Of Us compared to Other M. ok, this is too far. Angel of Darkness was atrocious. The controls were at least responsive in Other M.
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blackguy32 posted:ok, this is too far. Angel of Darkness was atrocious. The controls were at least responsive in Other M. So long as you were fine with flipping your controller around every 3 seconds since the game managed to combine the worst of both waggle and the WiiMote as a traditional controller. And of course, special mention must be made of the SenseMove, the special touch-the-D-pad-once-in-any-direction-at-any-time-to-dodge-attacks-and-kill-your-enemies, making it nearly loving impossible to lose. Because that's what a Metroid game needs, something to make it play itself.
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That loving Sned posted:Does anyone here still enjoy Nintendo's hardware? I've got a Wii U and an original 3DS, but there are some significant problems with them. 1. Battery isn't great but you can buy one that lasts for days from a third party. 2. Mine isn't very heavy, although I have giant man hands so it may be an issue for those with tiny babby hands. 3. The screen is pretty loving tiny. I don't really like it and wish I had a 3DSXL a lot. But i got my 3DS for 25 dollars and it has ambassador so I can't complain. 4. Controls seem fine. I lost my stylus so i just use my finger or a pen with the tip not popped out. 5. Dpad yeah its in a meh spot. 6. I don't ever notice the 3D effect and frankly find it annoying to look at so I leave it off. I wish they would have left that gimmick out honestly. I think its a fine system besides the Dpad, 3DS effect, and tiny screen (Solved by a 3DSXL) Viewtiful Jew posted:Don't forget they also have one of the most...unique recruitment systems when it comes to hiring new employees. Jesus christ! Is a colonoscopy and blood test the next step? EDIT: Viewtiful Jew posted:Legends 3 is really a bit of a special case when it comes to announcements, delays and cancellations. Most people probably don't know the game was never formally green-lit at Capcom and only got as far as it did because of the pull Inafune had, however much he had at that point. He was probably banking on Capcom caring enough about the fan backlash they'd get to keep them from stopping production of the game once he had left. I've never forgiven Capcom and haven't bought a Capcom game since they canned it. I giggle with glee as I watch them sink and burn like the lousy shitbags they are. Al Borland fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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The 3D effect on the 3DS is still cool to me, I hear so many people saying they always leave it off but part of me is still a 90s boy going WHOAAAH!! It's in  . It still amazes me every time I see it.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Just saw this on Facebook: Hilarious Article posted:Rubin left Naughty Dog nearly a decade ago and was most recently known for being THQ’s last president. EDIT: Uncle Wemus posted:If they didnt like Mario 3D what DOES Japan like these days? Edit 2: If they came out with a Princess Daisy / Peach / Rosalina romance simulator we'd probably see it topping the charts. MrBims posted:No, release Mario & Sonic at the 2014 Summer Youth Olympics. I saw this on a nintendo direct. I happened to be in the game lab at my school when someone was watching Iwata ramble on about lovely games for the Wii U. This came on and he was acting all proud of is enhanced snow effects in a crappy game 5 people will play. Al Borland fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Al Borland posted:I laughed so hard at this. I'm not jumping to nintendo's defense. They hosed up hard, but they deserve at least this counter point. They're not THQ levels of hosed up.
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Fulchrum posted:As has been said before, the problems with THQ came waaaaaaaay before Rubin got there. His crime is basically failing to bail out a sinking ship after the previous captain had abandoned it. From the looks of it the bail out bucket they gave him had a giant gaping hole in the bottom of it too. Barudak posted:Mario x Luigi: Superstar Twincest is going to have the worst tutorials imaginable. Fulchrum posted:I always figured that Luigi would be too scared for sexual experimentation. Which would leave Mario with Birdo and Waluigi. Wario likes to watch but you only know hes there by his lit cigarette and occasional outburst of him laughing as he screams, "I'mma gonna cum!"
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Well I guess when you don't actually have that many games to play on the Wii U, you start making fanfiction. My mind is now scarred thanks to this thread. Not as scarred as the psyches of Nintendo executives when they look at sales charts, but pretty drat close.
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Viewtiful Jew posted:gently caress I think you're onto something. When the super mario bros movie was announced I thought it was going to be him and captain lou in it. I was so stoked for that movie. Man was I EVER disappointed. EDIT: I also believe the Wii U was responsible for his tragic death.
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Al Borland posted:From the looks of it the bail out bucket they gave him had a giant gaping hole in the bottom of it too. It's kinda sad really. Most people affiliated with THQ (developers and the like) had his back and don't blame him for what happened, which to be frank is pretty unusual. He did the best he could in dire circumstances, but there was no stopping that ship from sinking.
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SwissCM posted:It's kinda sad really. Most people affiliated with THQ (developers and the like) had his back and don't blame him for what happened, which to be frank is pretty unusual. Yeah, its worse for the companies that didn't get picked up too. The whole THQ disaster really mucked things about. I think the innevitable end for nintendo is going to be focus on making really good portable handhelds. They're still god tier on that and the 3DS is such a strong system. The ambassador program was a great apology and I was quite happy with it. I was looking at my free game list and I thought to myself: "Now why the gently caress haven't they done this for the Wii U?"
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Al Borland posted:I think the innevitable end for nintendo is going to be focus on making really good portable handhelds. They're still god tier on that and the 3DS is such a strong system. The hardware in the 3DS is nothing special. In fact, it's pretty weak, most phones nowadays far outpower it. I'm not sold on the idea that phone games have to be free to play/freemium or $2.99 each. The problem is that most of the "major" games done for the platform that are published by major companies are by third tier developers and are poo poo, Gameloft are basically the Asylum of video games. On the other hand, all of the good stuff is done by indie teams. When it comes to controls, there has been some development when it comes to game controls for phones. You can get decent attachable game controllers for about $25 now but support can be spotty. In the end though I guess it comes down to content. People buy the 3DS for Pokemon, Mario, Zelda and other Nintendo franchise games. There's no reason why those games couldn't be done on a phone though and if interest in those franchises wanes, Nintendo is pretty much hosed.
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I've never bought a loving phone game in my life. I think the Wii U is a hilarious failure but parents are really eager to give a $150 bulletproof gaming machine to their kids rather than their dainty $500 smart phones or tablets.
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Alteisen posted:Metroid is dead. If Nintendo released a new 2D Metroid for Wii U or a 2D/3D hybrid (anything but a lovely FPS like Prime was) I would buy the console just for that game. Instead I'm on the fence because I don't give a poo poo about pokemon, zelda, or smash brothers, and $300 is a lot of cash to play a few Mario games and some of the Wii backlog. icantfindaname posted:I still think their best option was to ditch the tablet and slash the price $100 or more A few weeks ago before I seriously started looking into the Wii U and the threads here, I was trolling eBay looking for a Wii U console without the gamepad. I've paid enough attention to understand that the Wii U is a new console since it launched, but I had no idea the gamepad was basically required to use it and I could not find the console for sale without it. I just thought I could save a hundred bucks or so by buying the console itself and using a normal controller. I have no interest in the gamepad, waggling, etc. I just want to sit on the couch with a controller and play some good Nintendo games. I've never owned a Wii, mostly because when it launched I had already moved on to an HDTV and I was done with 480p gaming, but a new console that plays HD games AND can play a backlog of Wii games? I'm almost sold - but not for $300. All Nintendo had to do was build on the Wii by releasing an HD console that could play Wii games, which I guess they did but how did they gently caress it up so bad? I know the answer is "the gamepad and lack of games", but if I can figure that out why can't Nintendo? Over Thanksgiving I was talking to my family and I told my sister I was thinking of buying a Wii U. For some backstory, my sister isn't a big gamer but she has owned a Wii for a number of years and prior to that owned an N64/SNES. Her response to me was "you don't even own a Wii, why do you want a controller?" VVV - My point is that Nintendo has something to appeal to everyone, they're just not capitalizing on it. I would gladly pay the Nintendo tax to get some good Metroid. I bought the gamecube for one game - Prime - and although it was a huge letdown and the Prime series will forever tarnish the Metroid brand, the point is that people will buy a console for one game if they think it's the right one. The Shep fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:If Nintendo released a new 2D Metroid for Wii U or a 2D/3D hybrid (anything but a lovely FPS like Prime was) I would buy the console just for that game. Instead I'm on the fence because I don't give a poo poo about pokemon, zelda, or smash brothers, and $300 is a lot of cash to play a few Mario games and some of the Wii backlog. $300 is a lot of cash to play a 2D Metroid game. Metroid Prime was a good series, the FPS controls were better than the double analog stick
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:VVV - My point is that Nintendo has something to appeal to everyone, they're just not capitalizing on it. I would gladly pay the Nintendo tax to get some good Metroid. I bought the gamecube for one game - Prime - and although it was a huge letdown and the Prime series will forever tarnish the Metroid brand, the point is that people will buy a console for one game if they think it's the right one.
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Nintendo thought Prime tarnished the brand. Other M was an attempt to bring it back to japan.
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TheEggsBenedict posted:Wait, you think the Metroid Prime series tarnished the Metroid brand? Let me tell you about Other M.. Metroid Prime was real good, Metroid Prime 2 was impossible and I never played Metroid Prime 3 because gently caress motion controls.
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:I bought the gamecube for one game - Prime - and although it was a huge letdown and the Prime series will forever tarnish the Metroid brand I cannot even begin to describe how much stupidity is in this sentence... Wheany posted:Metroid Prime was real good, Metroid Prime 2 was impossible and I never played Metroid Prime 3 because gently caress motion controls. How was Prime 2 impossible, and did you even TRY Prime 3? The motion controls were fantastic.
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TaurusOxford posted:I cannot even begin to describe how much stupidity is in this sentence... Prime was a lovely console FPS, it wasn't a Metroid game. I haven't played Other M, but I enjoyed Fusion and Zero on the DS. Basically, all you're doing is not giving me a valid reason why there is no Metroid on the WiiU.
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TaurusOxford posted:How was Prime 2 impossible, and did you even TRY Prime 3? The motion controls were fantastic. I don't remember much other than at some point I just hit a brick wall in Prime 2. No, I did not try Prime 3, because I did not own a Wii, because gently caress motion controls.
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:Prime was a lovely console FPS, it wasn't a Metroid game. I haven't played Other M, but I enjoyed Fusion and Zero on the DS. Duke Nukem evolved from a side scroller to a FPS. So did GoldenEye during its development.
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AngryCaterpillar posted:Duke Nukem evolved from a side scroller to a FPS. So did GoldenEye during its development. The difference is that Duke and GoldenEye were good FPS's. Prime was slow, clunky, claustrophobic, and disorienting.
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:Prime was a lovely console FPS, it wasn't a Metroid game. Nah, it was a Metroid game played from the first person perspective. It was slower paced than a typical FPS (in terms of both aiming and enemy encounters) because it was a game about exploration, loneliness, and discovery more than blasting things.
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:Prime was a lovely console FPS, it wasn't a Metroid game. I haven't played Other M, but I enjoyed Fusion and Zero on the DS. It WAS a Metroid game. First-person perspective aside, everything that made a Metroid game great was present in Metroid Prime. The atmosphere, the feeling of isolation, the music, the upgrades, the bosses, etc etc etc - it was ALL there. The fact that Prime is heralded as one of the greatest games ever made should be enough to make you realize maybe your opinion is wrong. Also... quote:I haven't played Other M If the Prime trilogy had actually tarnished the Metroid brand as you say, this game wouldn't have received nearly as much hate and scorn as it has gotten. The fact is that after three excellent Prime games, fan expectations were high for Other M. What we got not only failed expectations, it barely even had the basic requirements to be a Metroid game.
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