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poster for new Godfrey Reggio (guy who did Koyaanisqatsi) film:
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sportsgenius86 posted:My girlfriend's dad bought this at a bike rally a couple weeks ago and I watched about 25 minutes of it waiting for her to get ready one night and it was the biggest loving piece of poo poo I have ever seen. So... is it a sequel or a prequel? The trailer and the various titles make no goddamn sense. It can't be a sequel because Captain America dies and his bike is destroyed, but it's called "The Ride Back". At the same time, it can't be a prequel because the tube of money is in the gas tank, and Captain America didn't make the drug deal until the very start of the movie (Also I'm assuming there wouldn't be any money left for Easy Rider if not-Peter-Fonda used it to save the community center or whatever the hell is supposed to be going on in this movie).
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Dec 4, 2013 19:39
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etherealshaq posted:poster for new Godfrey Reggio (guy who did Koyaanisqatsi) film: Throwing a Nietzsche quote on there where a critics quote would be is pretty funny.
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Dec 4, 2013 19:47
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TheJoker138 posted:Dark Knight Rises had 4-5 villains depending on what you think of Catwoman for the first act of the movie. Not just Rises. All three of the Nolan Batman movies had at least three villains make an appearance.
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Dec 4, 2013 19:52
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Robert Denby posted:
I know this was a couple pages back, but man I loved this. I want it on my wall.
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Dec 4, 2013 22:08
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Sir Kodiak posted:Not just Rises. All three of the Nolan Batman movies had at least three villains make an appearance. Who was the third villain in Dark Knight? Don't say "Scarecrow" either or I'll shank you.
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Dec 4, 2013 23:18
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Lady Naga posted:Who was the third villain in Dark Knight? Don't say "Scarecrow" either or I'll shank you. Fear. Nah, it's Scarecrow. There were heaps of mob bosses too.
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Dec 4, 2013 23:21
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Harvey Dent sort of sits on the fence and you're crazy if you consider Selina Kyle in The Dark Knight Rises as a villain. Is Han Solo a villain in Star Wars too? She's pretty obviously an anti-hero.
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Dec 4, 2013 23:24
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Vagabundo posted:Harvey Dent sort of sits on the fence and you're crazy if you consider Selina Kyle in The Dark Knight Rises as a villain. Is Han Solo a villain in Star Wars too? She's pretty obviously an anti-hero. I don't think it was necessarily the number of villains in Spider-Man 3 that was the problem, but more that the script was so jumbled. Cut out Sandman, make the dark suit actually threatening and focus the conflict on Harry's bitterness against Peter/Spider-Man (without the amnesia crap) and Peter creating Venom by giving in to the dark suit, and you could have a great, dramatic finale to the trilogy. As is, I'm convinced Spider-Man 3 is one of the best recent comedies and I will always watch it in that frame of mind. Vagabundo posted:Absolutely gorgeous. Ehhh. I thought Amazing Spider-Man had a good cast but was pretty uninspired overall, and this makes me think the second will be more of the same. I thought Jamie Foxx and Paul Giamatti would be awesome as Shocker/Rhino, but now I'm not so sure. Why even cast Paul Giamatti if you're just going to stick him in a dumb tank? I feel like I'll have to see Shocker in action to tell if they pull it off, but with three villains I feel like his actual screen time will end up being thinned.
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Dec 4, 2013 23:54
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Lady Naga posted:Who was the third villain in Dark Knight? Don't say "Scarecrow" either or I'll shank you. Vagabundo posted:Harvey Dent sort of sits on the fence and you're crazy if you consider Selina Kyle in The Dark Knight Rises as a villain. Is Han Solo a villain in Star Wars too? She's pretty obviously an anti-hero. No, he's Two-Face. The whole movie is about how he becomes the villain. He definitely counts.
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Dec 5, 2013 00:08
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Nikaer Drekin posted:I don't think it was necessarily the number of villains in Spider-Man 3 that was the problem, but more that the script was so jumbled. Cut out Sandman, make the dark suit actually threatening and focus the conflict on Harry's bitterness against Peter/Spider-Man (without the amnesia crap) and Peter creating Venom by giving in to the dark suit, and you could have a great, dramatic finale to the trilogy. As is, I'm convinced Spider-Man 3 is one of the best recent comedies and I will always watch it in that frame of mind. But Sandman was one of the better things about Spider-Man 3. It was Venom that really brought it down.
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Dec 5, 2013 00:08
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Peter Parker dancing was the best thing about that movie.
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Dec 5, 2013 00:12
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Vagabundo posted:Harvey Dent sort of sits on the fence and you're crazy if you consider Selina Kyle in The Dark Knight Rises as a villain. Is Han Solo a villain in Star Wars too? She's pretty obviously an anti-hero. For the first act of the movie Catwoman is totally a villain. She sells Batman out to Bane, even.
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Dec 5, 2013 00:17
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Nikaer Drekin posted:I don't think it was necessarily the number of villains in Spider-Man 3 that was the problem, but more that the script was so jumbled. Cut out Sandman, make the dark suit actually threatening and focus the conflict on Harry's bitterness against Peter/Spider-Man (without the amnesia crap) and Peter creating Venom by giving in to the dark suit, and you could have a great, dramatic finale to the trilogy. As is, I'm convinced Spider-Man 3 is one of the best recent comedies and I will always watch it in that frame of mind. Not Shocker, Electro. Not trying to be pedantic, I just don't want you to get your hopes up 
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Dec 5, 2013 00:21
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Yodzilla posted:But Sandman was one of the better things about Spider-Man 3. It was Venom that really brought it down. Raimi had a hate-on for Venom before the movie was done and was pretty much forced to use the character by the studio. His disdain for the character showed pretty well in the film. He also had a huge love-on for Sandman and sadly his passion for the character came through loud and clear (I think both characters sucked in the movie).
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Dec 5, 2013 00:23
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Yodzilla posted:But Sandman was one of the better things about Spider-Man 3. It was Venom that really brought it down. Right, I think you could argue either way- if they focused on Sandman and Harry it would probably have been fine, but being stretched in so many directions is what hurt it more than anything. Lady Naga posted:Not Shocker, Electro. Not trying to be pedantic, I just don't want you to get your hopes up Huh, I actually didn't know there were two electricity-related Spider-Man villains! I must have collated them together in my head.
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Dec 5, 2013 00:30
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Huh, I actually didn't know there were two electricity-related Spider-Man villains! I must have collated them together in my head. Shocker is, surprisingly, not electricity based. He just shoots vibration beams from wrist gauntlets. Hello, I am a goon on Something Awful dot com. And so is TheJoker138. ThatPazuzu fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Dec 5, 2013 00:35
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Right, I think you could argue either way- if they focused on Sandman and Harry it would probably have been fine, but being stretched in so many directions is what hurt it more than anything. Shocker isn't electricity related.
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Dec 5, 2013 00:41
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The Shocker dresses in a yellow quilt with purple accents too, though if he ever made it too a film they'd rejig it to be awful.Robert Denby posted:
For some reason the quotations look off to me. I really want them to be in white, but I'm not sure if that'd be right. It's a great poster though, mostly because it treads in the footprints of a great film.
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Dec 5, 2013 01:08
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TheJoker138 posted:For the first act of the movie Catwoman is totally a villain. She sells Batman out to Bane, even. Is Lando a villain, even in Empire Strikes Back?
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Dec 5, 2013 02:27
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Mr. Squishy posted:The Shocker dresses in a yellow quilt with purple accents too, though if he ever made it too a film they'd rejig it to be awful. I want Shocker to be in Amazing Spider-Man 3 to reenact this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQSD1E7YjHQ
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Dec 5, 2013 02:30
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I like that the go-to for goons is Star Wars
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Dec 5, 2013 02:35
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Did you guys know that Spider-Man 3 had 3 villains? And it was a bad movie so it must stand that superhero movies with three villains are bad! The reason Spider-Man 3 was bad is that it had to take what the producers wanted (Venom), what the director wanted (Sandman), and what made the most sense with what they had (Goblin Franco) and shove that all together into one movie and try their hardest to make it work, instead of a movie where the three villains are all organically connected to each other and it makes sense when they team up (like what I'm pretty sure Amazing Spider-Man 2 is leading up to).
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Dec 5, 2013 02:39
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Yoshifan823 posted:Did you guys know that Spider-Man 3 had 3 villains? And it was a bad movie so it must stand that superhero movies with three villains are bad! Yeah, I may have been a bit unfair in saying that the number of villains was the sole reason rather than the fact that the villains pretty much had nothing to do with each other until like the end. I'm willing to give Amazing 2 a chance on this, especially with the implication that things are working up to the Sinister Six.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:45
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edit: accidental post
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Dec 5, 2013 02:50
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Lady Naga posted:Who was the third villain in Dark Knight? Don't say "Scarecrow" either or I'll shank you. Batman  No, it was Scarecrow. Shank away.
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Dec 5, 2013 03:34
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It was such a wasted opportunity creating an entirely separate character with an entirely separate revenge plot to become Venom, instead of just using Harry. But apparently it was just THAT important to have Of course, that would have pissed off comic book fans because Harry probably never becomes Venom in a comic. Just one more way that movie was spoiled by trying to please too many different people.
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Dec 5, 2013 04:02
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Sir Lemming posted:It was such a wasted opportunity creating an entirely separate character with an entirely separate revenge plot to become Venom, instead of just using Harry. But apparently it was just THAT important to have Harry as Venom instead of "NEW Goblin" is a loving brilliant idea. gently caress.
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Dec 5, 2013 04:06
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The whole Venom plot could have been an entire movie...but they half-assed it and threw in the Sandman stuff and the ongoing conflict with Harry from SM2, creating a gigantic mess. Raimi was a little obsessive with the early ASM villains though, from what it sounds like. He was prepared to make the Vulture and his daughter the main villains in the fourth one, which sounded like a really terrible idea. I think there were also rumors of Mysterio?
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Dec 5, 2013 05:03
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Now Mysterio I'd like to see. Some really nifty stuff could be done with that.
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Dec 5, 2013 05:07
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FlamingLiberal posted:The whole Venom plot could have been an entire movie...but they half-assed it and threw in the Sandman stuff and the ongoing conflict with Harry from SM2, creating a gigantic mess. Raimi was a little obsessive with the early ASM villains though, from what it sounds like. He was prepared to make the Vulture and his daughter the main villains in the fourth one, which sounded like a really terrible idea. I think there were also rumors of Mysterio? The Venom plot wasn't even supposed to be in SM3. It was more like they threw those into a movie that was originally supposed to be about Harry and Sandman. The MSJ fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Dec 5, 2013 05:11
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The MSJ posted:The Venom plot wasn't even supposed to be in SM3. It was more like they threw those into a movie that was supposed originally supposed to be about Harry and Sandman. It wasn't like the Sandman stuff was great either. The whole retconning Sandman to be responsible for Uncle Ben's death was....really freaking terrible. The Harry stuff was also pretty bad (I am talking about the Butler doing something near the end that could have saved everyone a lot of pain and grief if it was done earlier).
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Dec 5, 2013 06:57
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drat Paul is hardcore, hammer and sickle tat, stars on his knees, those hurt like a mofo. Also I thought venom was just shot up into space somewhere at the end of SM3, like Red Skull got teleported in Cap America, leaving the door open for a return... TheJoker138 posted:Nothing was good in Punisher War Zone. Wrong, so wrong. Lady Naga posted:Who was the third villain in Dark Knight? Don't say "Scarecrow" either or I'll shank you. Gordon. got any sevens fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Dec 5, 2013 07:36
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effectual posted:Also I thought venom was just teleported into space somewhere at the end of SM3, like Red Skull in Cap America, leaving the door open for a return... He got blown up by a Goblin grenade while Peter annoyed him with noisy metal bars.
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Dec 5, 2013 07:46
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Madkal posted:It wasn't like the Sandman stuff was great either. The whole retconning Sandman to be responsible for Uncle Ben's death was....really freaking terrible. I completely forgot about the deus ex machina butler! Wow, that movie was terrible.
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Dec 5, 2013 08:41
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Biff Rockgroin posted:So... is it a sequel or a prequel? The trailer and the various titles make no goddamn sense. It can't be a sequel because Captain America dies and his bike is destroyed, but it's called "The Ride Back". At the same time, it can't be a prequel because the tube of money is in the gas tank, and Captain America didn't make the drug deal until the very start of the movie (Also I'm assuming there wouldn't be any money left for Easy Rider if not-Peter-Fonda used it to save the community center or whatever the hell is supposed to be going on in this movie). Captain America's brother rebuilt his bike and recovered his vest and is riding around with their sister and some guy named Wes Coast.
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Dec 5, 2013 13:56
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effectual posted:Gordon. Gary Oldman as an antagonist? Ptheh, not likely.
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Dec 5, 2013 14:00
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effectual posted:Gordon. No no no, weren't any of you paying attention at all? The third villain is clearly Maggie Gyllenhaal. She killed Katie Holmes' character and stole her identity. I can't believe everybody missed that.
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Dec 5, 2013 14:04
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Wolfsheim posted:I completely forgot about the deus ex machina butler! Wow, that movie was terrible. Apparently, these days the writers and/or Rami claim the butler was supposed to be a figment of Harry's imagination, putting the pieces together about what actually happened. Which is madness, but I sort of believe them? Like, they wanted to have Harry looking over evidence, but then test audiences didn't get it, so they added the butler. Or they're all morons. Really, the problem would have been solved much sooner if, somewhere around Spidey 2, Peter had shown up in costume, and said "Hey, I didn't kill your Dad, the goblin did.". Which is true, from a certain point of view.
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Re: Punisher: War Zone Liking poo poo is all good - hell, I love Rocky 5. But in the end it's still poo poo you just embrace it - all over. Covered in poo poo. poo poo.
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