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Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

such insight

# ? Dec 6, 2013 18:09

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 21:46

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

and here I was thinking the exact opposite

# ? Dec 6, 2013 18:12

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

in conclusion, libya is a land of contrast

# ? Dec 6, 2013 18:15

Zaxxon: Feb 14, 2004; Wir Tanzen Mekanik

static and dynamically typed languages are the same sides of two different coins.

# ? Dec 6, 2013 18:46

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

the real difference is between static and weak typing

# ? Dec 6, 2013 19:16

Malcolm XML: Aug 8, 2009; I always knew it would end like ｔｈｉｓ．

I am a type fascist

# ? Dec 6, 2013 19:20

emoji: Jun 4, 2004

Malcolm XML posted:

I am a type fascist

Adolf Hindley-Milner

# ? Dec 6, 2013 19:32

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

Nomnom Cookie posted:

the real difference is between static and weak typing

you mean strong and weak
ask a interviewee the difference between strong, weak, static, dynamic typing for head explosions 90% of the time.

also the only unacceptable one is weak typing. Every language that defaults to weak typing is horrible because the people who use them are horrible

# ? Dec 6, 2013 19:49

Plastic Snake: Mar 2, 2005; For Halloween or scaring people.

kraftwerk singles posted:

Adolf Hindley-Milner

moooods

# ? Dec 6, 2013 20:01

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

MeruFM posted:

also the only unacceptable one is weak typing. Every language that defaults to weak typing is horrible because the people who use them are horrible

lhwya

# ? Dec 6, 2013 20:05

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

MeruFM posted:

you mean strong and weak
ask a interviewee the difference between strong, weak, static, dynamic typing for head explosions 90% of the time.

also the only unacceptable one is weak typing. Every language that defaults to weak typing is horrible because the people who use them are horrible

strong typing and static typing are the same thing

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:12

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Nomnom Cookie posted:

strong typing and static typing are the same thing

now snatch this pebble from my hand

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:14

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

MeruFM posted:

also the only unacceptable one is weak typing. Every language that defaults to weak typing is horrible because the people who use them are horrible

no, weak typing is better than strong typing. the way a value is stored in the computer is an implementation detail that programmers should not have to think or care about. (except in special cases like embedded systems where worrying about memory is necessary ofc)

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:17

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

thread's looping, close it

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:18

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

this morning someone tweeted about how maybe by the year 2045 we'll make a compiler that can tell you when you're missing a semicolon and where instead of complaining about an unspecified syntax error 6 lines down

my first reaction was that even if that happened, programmers would universally reject it because they're masochistic idiots who love doing things like writing boilerplate type conversion code

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:23

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

Cocoa Crispies posted:

thread's looping, close it

yeah but you can't prove that it's looping

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:24

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

bugchasing but https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/3057

quote:

douglascrockford commented 2 years ago
TC39 is considering the use of ! as an infix operator. This code will break in the future. Fix it now. Learn to use semicolons properly. ! is not intended to be a statement separator. ; is.

fat commented 2 years ago
i have learned to use them, that's why there isn't one present.

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:26

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

Cocoa Crispies posted:

bugchasing but https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/3057

jesus christ

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:28

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

ahaha that owns

douglas crockford is an idiot who makes things for people who hate javascript for not being excessively spergy

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:28

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

tbc all you have to do is upgrade from php to node.js, which is faster than php and automatically handles semicolons and has the same sloppy typing as php

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:29

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Cocoa Crispies posted:

bugchasing but https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/3057

i mean just so we're all clear on this, this is a person, and many people in agreement with him, saying that there is a bug in syntactically unimpeachable code that does exactly what it's supposed to because it will stop working if it is passed through a third-party tool that does not properly parse the language

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:31

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Tiny Bug Child posted:

i mean just so we're all clear on this, this is a person, and many people in agreement with him, saying that there is a bug in syntactically unimpeachable code that does exactly what it's supposed to because it will stop working if it is passed through a third-party tool that does not properly parse the language

tbc was right

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:32

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Tiny Bug Child posted:

this morning someone tweeted about how maybe by the year 2045 we'll make a compiler that can tell you when you're missing a semicolon and where instead of complaining about an unspecified syntax error 6 lines down

my first reaction was that even if that happened, programmers would universally reject it because they're masochistic idiots who love doing things like writing boilerplate type conversion code

we have a compiler that does this, it's called clang, everyone loves it, destroy police

# ? Dec 6, 2013 21:49

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

i want browsers that refuse to render bad html and css

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:33

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

and make them the only browsers available

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:33

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

MeruFM posted:

i want browsers that refuse to render bad html and css

here u go, credit otto if you fork this source to port it to qt or whatever

C++ code:

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
	// all html and css are piss garbage for idiots
	return -EBADHTML;
}

e: compiles and runs under recent debian using -Wall -Werror -Wextra -O75

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:37

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

humanity is not capable of making an actually functional browser the only one available so there's not much hope for your hypothetical Sperg Explorer

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:38

kitten emergency: Jan 13, 2008; get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

MeruFM posted:

and make them the only browsers available

IE already exists though

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:38

qntm: Jun 17, 2009

MeruFM posted:

i want browsers that refuse to render bad html and css

there was a time when i served my website with the content-type: application/xhtml+xml header, which forces browsers to abandon rendering on the slightest markup error. it worked fine because my markup is perfect and my comments system wouldn't accept invalid html. unfortunately more obscure browsers couldn't handle the header and i had to revert to text/html

what i'm saying is that i'm too perfect for this fallen world, and bad html and css is the internet you deserve

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:43

Malcolm XML: Aug 8, 2009; I always knew it would end like ｔｈｉｓ．

qntm posted:

there was a time when i served my website with the content-type: application/xhtml+xml header, which forces browsers to abandon rendering on the slightest markup error. it worked fine because my markup is perfect and my comments system wouldn't accept invalid html. unfortunately more obscure browsers couldn't handle the header and i had to revert to text/html

what i'm saying is that i'm too perfect for this fallen world, and bad html and css is the internet you deserve

im always sad that html is not xml

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:47

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

i want my compiler to error out if my program has any warnings

i want my browser to fail to render if my html has any errors

i want my car's engine to seize if i turn without activating the blinker

i want planes to crash into the runway if anyone has wireless on in their Kindle

for i am sperg and i can tolerate no imperfection

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:52

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

i'm happy i can make messages and displays appear on other computers

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:52

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Tiny Bug Child posted:

i want my car's engine to seize if i turn without activating the blinker

this is actually a fantastic idea. a several-thousand-dollar a pop tax on being a fuckhead

# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:58

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

Tiny Bug Child posted:

i want my compiler to error out if my program has any warnings

i want my browser to fail to render if my html has any errors

i want my car's engine to seize if i turn without activating the blinker

i want planes to crash into the runway if anyone has wireless on in their Kindle

for i am sperg and i can tolerate no imperfection

one of the reasons that planes very rarely crash into runways is that the software controlling their electronics is written not in php, but in a language with a compiler that errors out if their program has any warnings (and they take those warnings very seriously). they also have book-length programming style guides that must be followed to the letter

# ? Dec 6, 2013 23:30

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Tiny Bug Child posted:

i want my car's engine to seize if i turn without activating the blinker

i also want this for everybody else's car

# ? Dec 6, 2013 23:38

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

JewKiller 3000 posted:

one of the reasons that planes very rarely crash into runways is that the software controlling their electronics is written not in php, but in a language with a compiler that errors out if their program has any warnings (and they take those warnings very seriously). they also have book-length programming style guides that must be followed to the letter

it didn't stop toyota from being shat on by sperges when they releasing their code after the cop crashing fiasco

# ? Dec 7, 2013 00:02

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

MeruFM posted:

it didn't stop toyota from being shat on by sperges when they releasing their code after the cop crashing fiasco

perhaps thats because they did not in fact follow the programming guide to the letter

# ? Dec 7, 2013 03:30

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

i will never use bootstrap on a non-inherited project ever again

fwiw it has nothing to do with any of what's going on in that link

# ? Dec 7, 2013 03:39

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

what is your gripe with bootstrap sulk

# ? Dec 7, 2013 03:52

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Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

one complaint i hear a lot is that bootstrap makes sites look same-y because customizing it is hard. apparently this is supposed to be easier with bootstrap 3

# ? Dec 7, 2013 04:06

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