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Gotta keep those faxes secure yo.
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# ? Nov 27, 2013 08:43 |
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Thought I would point out something interesting in the latest bill that passed for State secrets in Japan. Japan Times link on it The relevant bit is this: quote:The fourth rule is that anything pertaining to nuclear energy is a state secret.
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# ? Dec 2, 2013 05:21 |
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Kenishi posted:Thought I would point out something interesting in the latest bill that passed for State secrets in Japan. God drat it quit screwing nuclear energy for the rest of the world, TEPCO/Japan!
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# ? Dec 2, 2013 05:23 |
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One of my favorite bands, Yellow Magic Orchestra, linked to http://anti-secrecy.jimdo.com/ so I was wondering if anyone would care to translate this header.
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# ? Dec 5, 2013 00:30 |
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Basically, it's "Society for People Involved in Fields of Expression Through Media Such as Music, Art, Acting, Televisual Arts and Publishing who are Opposed to the Special Secrets Protection Law (Abbreviated to: Society for Artists)"
edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Dec 5, 2013 |
# ? Dec 5, 2013 00:49 |
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It seems like the set of people who are actually in favor of the bill is the same as the set of people who get to vote on it, possibly with the addition of career bureaucrats and TEPCO, so it's almost redundant to note that any specific group of artists/lawyers/nobel prize winners/[whatever the English term is for bunkakourousha]/deities/slaves to the system are against it.
mystes fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Dec 5, 2013 |
# ? Dec 5, 2013 01:55 |
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Pretty much the same way the early ending of the corporate tax increase benefits parliamentarians since most all of them have their fingers all over businesses, not to mention wanting to keep their future amakudari options open.
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# ? Dec 5, 2013 05:58 |
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Kenishi posted:Seems to scream, that there may be something horrible going on at Fukushima either present or in the past that they are trying to keep under the rug. In addition, if the whole clean up process also constitutes "nuclear energy." I think it might be related to the US concept of Born Secret - that some technology (basically only nuclear technology) is secret no matter whether it was independently rediscovered elsewhere. But I think you're correct and it is a way to cover up Fukushima.
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# ? Dec 5, 2013 06:04 |
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Wow, what a lovely bill:quote:(1) 次に掲げる者による故意又は過失による漏えいを処罰する。 I think it's pretty clear that if a reporter knowingly asked a government official about secret information and had information leaked to them as a result, the reporter could be charged under this. And just acting like it's OK to put whatever bullshit you want in your laws because the judiciary will make sure it ends up being reasonable is ridiculous.
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# ? Dec 5, 2013 17:28 |
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Funny thing is I bet this is getting much less protest than the nuclear stuff, even though it's really way more important. Goddamn Japanese kids too content doing baito and drinking their youth away to go raise hell on the streets every once in a while.
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# ? Dec 5, 2013 17:35 |
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LimburgLimbo posted:Funny thing is I bet this is getting much less protest than the nuclear stuff, even though it's really way more important. Goddamn Japanese kids too content doing baito and drinking their youth away to go raise hell on the streets every once in a while. Protest? I think you mean acts of terrorism right? http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/12/01/national/secrecy-law-protests-act-of-terrorism-ldp-secretary-general/
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# ? Dec 6, 2013 05:23 |
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This could be a very positive step if they are actually able to come to some sort of agreement. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/11/30/national/japan-south-korean-lawmakers-call-for-joint-history-textbooks-with-china/ quote:Japanese and South Korean lawmakers working to promote bilateral exchanges issued a statement in Tokyo on Saturday urging their governments and China to produce joint Northeast Asian history textbooks. Now its likely to hit some sort of deadlock and go nowhere, but one can hope right?
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 01:03 |
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Wibbleman posted:This could be a very positive step if they are actually able to come to some sort of agreement. I don't see it going anywhere, but it's a nice gesture.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 02:02 |
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Chapter 23: Japan's peaceful expansion into Asia (written by Japan) Chapter 24: Japan's brutal occupation of Asia (written by Korea) I don't see how they can combine the content any other way than that.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 02:52 |
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I doubt it'd go beyond Chapter 1: country X invented thing Y first, and the resulting screaming match.
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Grand Fromage posted:I doubt it'd go beyond Chapter 1: country X invented thing Y first, and the resulting screaming match. Chapter 1: The entirely realistic founding of our nation by the not-legendary emperor X in territory Y in 4000 BC.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 02:55 |
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I once heard a Chinese person say that Japan was founded by cowards who deserted the first Chinese emperor, so if China was in on it I'm sure that would have to be incorporated in too.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 02:56 |
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shitthatdidnthappen.txt: The Xia Dynasty edition
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 03:01 |
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Um, no, because the Japanese totally evolved from breed of ape different from the ones that became other humans, making them totally unique.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 03:02 |
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jigokuman posted:Um, no, because the Japanese totally evolved from breed of ape different from the ones that became other humans, making them totally unique. Obviously; that's why their body temperature is 2 degrees lower than the rest of the human species.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 03:54 |
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And their intestines are longer, so that they may more easily digest vegetable foodstuffs.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 04:55 |
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A long time ago I watched an anime where a character matter-of-factly said that Japanese have less saliva than other people. Is that a widespread belief? Unlike some of these, I have never heard it elsewhere.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 05:27 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:A long time ago I watched an anime where a character matter-of-factly said that Japanese have less saliva than other people. Is that a widespread belief? Unlike some of these, I have never heard it elsewhere. Never heard the saliva one before. Of the above-mentioned beliefs, I've def heard the 'long intestines' one the most.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 06:16 |
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So how do these idiots reconcile mixed race children? i.e if the Japanese were that genetically divergent they wouldn't be able to pro-create with other people/humans/races etc. hmmm this may explain the worried look from the doctor when I visited the hospital with my wife for a pregnancy check up, maybe they thought it was going to be some alien monster.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 06:23 |
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Wibbleman posted:So how do these idiots reconcile mixed race children? i.e if the Japanese were that genetically divergent they wouldn't be able to pro-create with other people/humans/races etc. Better yet how do they explain the Ainu/Ryukyuan . "Oh, well they were clearly an inferior breed that took a divergent path which is why we treated them like poo poo" Or why they treat the burakumin like poo poo. Really, any good reason for why they hype Japanese supremacy but still treat citizens like poo poo for expressing unique opinions. pentyne fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Dec 10, 2013 |
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Wibbleman posted:So how do these idiots reconcile mixed race children? i.e if the Japanese were that genetically divergent they wouldn't be able to pro-create with other people/humans/races etc. There are actual species that can interbreed and produce fertile offspring.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 07:49 |
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Wibbleman posted:So how do these idiots reconcile mixed race children? i.e if the Japanese were that genetically divergent they wouldn't be able to pro-create with other people/humans/races etc. It's like half-elves, you just get a reduced version of each parent's bonuses.
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# ? Dec 10, 2013 09:57 |
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Benly posted:It's like half-elves, you just get a reduced version of each parent's bonuses. Putting the DnD in D&D
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# ? Dec 11, 2013 02:58 |
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So, the mayor of Tokyo (Naoki Inose) resigned over the scandal of accepting 50 million yen donation for his election campaign and not reporting it - money that "would be rude to refuse when offered", as Inose put it. Who's gonna fill his shoes?
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 14:23 |
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Not Mayor, Governor. So his role isn't as huge. Japan likes the scandals with under the table funds, its what caused a huge shake up in the election reporting system back in the early 90s.
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 14:34 |
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Kenishi posted:Not Mayor, Governor. So his role isn't as huge. Japan likes the scandals with under the table funds, its what caused a huge shake up in the election reporting system back in the early 90s. There is no mayor of Tokyo, since there is no Tokyo City. Pretty sure the power situation is different than Osaka Prefecture and Osaka City, and that the role is rather big.
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# ? Dec 22, 2013 18:26 |
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Kenishi posted:Not Mayor, Governor. So his role isn't as huge. Japan likes the scandals with under the table funds, its what caused a huge shake up in the election reporting system back in the early 90s. Ain't that what dragged down Ozawa eventually as well?
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# ? Dec 23, 2013 07:23 |
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http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/12/26/national/abe-to-visit-war-linked-yasukuni-shrine-during-morning-govt/ I'm just glad my English conversation school is out for winter break already. We've got some Korean and Chinese teachers, as well as Japanese language program full of Asian students, and the mood in the office just turns to poo poo every drat time.
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# ? Dec 26, 2013 03:53 |
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I'm just pissed because I work on the Cabinet press releases and he just guaranteed me another straight night of going home on the last train because of his boneheadedness
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# ? Dec 26, 2013 05:42 |
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Was reading some of the NETOUYO comments on Twitter (yeah, I should know better) and someone was saying something about how if the "Mitsubishi Trial" in the Korean Supreme Court gets a certain ruling, something-something-something Japan will have no choice but to sever all relations with Korea yay! I tried some cursory Googling but couldn't figure out much. Anyone know what this about?
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# ? Dec 26, 2013 09:01 |
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Mezzanine posted:Was reading some of the NETOUYO comments on Twitter (yeah, I should know better) and someone was saying something about how if the "Mitsubishi Trial" in the Korean Supreme Court gets a certain ruling, something-something-something Japan will have no choice but to sever all relations with Korea yay! I tried some cursory Googling but couldn't figure out much. Anyone know what this about? I think, if its the same case. That back in 2012, the Korean supreme court decided that the existence of the 1965 treaty, which resolved all issues of compensation (between the governments) didn't invalidate the right of individual families to seek compensation. So some families took Mitsubishi to court to seek compensation for their relatives who were conscripted into forced labor. This article from July 2012 says that Mitsubishi was appealing the decision to award 7million yen to each person's estate. So I guess they are commenting on if the appeal loses (or has already been lost). I personally think the companies should just pony up the cash, but I guess they don't want to set a precedent (in which case they should do a out of court settlement etc). But on the other hand, it's pretty unusual for countries to decide to ignore sections of treaties they have signed, and possibly is not legal under international law. Treaties are binding for a reason, and if you decide to recant latter on the compromises you made, it leaves the other party out in the cold. And likely will lead to other countries being a bit wary of signing any treaties with you in the future. Mezzanine posted:http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/12/26/national/abe-to-visit-war-linked-yasukuni-shrine-during-morning-govt/ Meh, he hasn't gained anything from South Korea or China for not going, they have given him the cold shoulder at pretty much every meeting, so I guess he decided to go for the short term political gain. Also as MTC stated on his blog, the old political rule is "You gotta dance with them what brung ya" so he needed to appease his political base, and as he was getting nothing from snubbing them, it sorta makes sense.
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Mezzanine posted:http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/12/26/national/abe-to-visit-war-linked-yasukuni-shrine-during-morning-govt/ I have to say, whether intentional or not, I like that he did this right around Mao's birthday, i.e. the day official veneration of a leader whose policies led to the outright murder of several million Chinese and the starvation of tens of millions more reaches its peak. Still a grossly inappropriate thing to do, from both a practical and a moral perspective, but the hypocrisy of the Chinese government on this issue makes me highly unsympathetic to their rhetoric.
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# ? Dec 26, 2013 14:15 |
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Abe is a for real nationalist/revisionist and the totalitarian Chinese government exploits history to shore up their own power. They were made for each other. Neither the Japanese nor the Chinese public has any rational point of view on east asia, at least as us Westerners might view it. In my personal experience, Japanese and Chinese people have a lot of differences that are completely surmountable as long as no one jumps in to remind them that they are supposed to hate each other. Abe is pretty deft as a politician, but if you ask why he visits Yasukuni, it's because he wants to go there. He is a bone fide Japanese right winger, to the right of the Emperor. He does not run the whole country and he was not reelected because Japanese people in general are like him, though the Western narrative is that Japanese are suddenly becoming warlike. He stumbled back into office on the back of a national disaster and a particularly ineffectual opposition government that squandered every opportunity to take leadership. Japanese people are pretty much exactly the same now as they were five years ago. They are not becoming more warlike, and they are not becoming more nationalistic than they were before. I am from an extremely nationalistic country, and I know what that bullshit looks like. Gabriel Grub fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Dec 26, 2013 |
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Lemmi Caution posted:Abe is a for real nationalist/revisionist and the totalitarian Chinese government exploits history to shore up their own power. They were made for each other. Neither the Japanese nor the Chinese public has any rational point of view on east asia, at least as us Westerners might view it. In my personal experience, Japanese and Chinese people have a lot of differences that are completely surmountable as long as no one jumps in to remind them that they are supposed to hate each other. I agree with most of this post, but I don't quite understand the bolded part. I feel like every other article I've read about Abe in the past year in mainstream western publications has included a line that's the equivalent of "he has a mandate to fix the economy and if he goes beyond that he'll run into trouble." In fact, I think this claim is exaggerated, at least on this issue- most Japanese people don't have a problem with the Prime Minister visiting the shrine, so I doubt it will hurt him much- though it's on the mark for constitutional revision and the recently passed secrets bill.
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dilbertschalter posted:I agree with most of this post, but I don't quite understand the bolded part. I feel like every other article I've read about Abe in the past year in mainstream western publications has included a line that's the equivalent of "he has a mandate to fix the economy and if he goes beyond that he'll run into trouble." In fact, I think this claim is exaggerated, at least on this issue- most Japanese people don't have a problem with the Prime Minister visiting the shrine, so I doubt it will hurt him much- though it's on the mark for constitutional revision and the recently passed secrets bill. There have been a lot of articles about the conservatives trying to push through constitutional amendments and the recent confirmation of a small increase in Japan's defense budget saw a lot of press, a fair amount of it somewhat hyperbolic.
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# ? Dec 26, 2013 15:29 |