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amiantos
Oct 19, 2012
I bought this set from YM Imports http://www.ymimports.com/p-2411-bamboo-34-go-board-double-convex-yunzi-stones-w-bamboo-bowls.aspx#.UqlOZJFhOFI

I bought it on Cyber Monday and missed that they were doing a 15% off coupon, but I emailed them asking if I could still get it and they refunded me the 15% discount.

When I got the board (pick up since I am local) I noticed it was slightly warped http://imgur.com/a/dlAAo

I emailed them about it with the pictures and they said that since the warping was slight I could get an additional 15% refund, or I could exchange for a new board.

Since it's my first board, I'll be carrying it around a lot, and it wasn't too expensive, I figured I'll just take the discount.

Just wanted to share my experience. The board is beautiful and the yunzi stones are very nice--I wasn't planning on oiling them but once I got them and washed them it was obvious they desperately need to be oiled or else they look terrible. Considering the board by itself is $50 and the same stones in slightly nicer bowls are $70, I think I got a pretty good deal for an ending price of $70.

e: beauty shots http://instagram.com/p/hplUKnEnyr/ http://instagram.com/p/hmE1dcEn7C/ http://instagram.com/p/hmFls2kn8S/

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amiantos
Oct 19, 2012
Someone might be interested in this.

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AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


Scheduled Delivery:
Friday, 12/13/2013, By End of Day

Oh boy, I'm so excited.

amiantos
Oct 19, 2012
Here's pictures of that $101 floor goban from YMI

http://imgur.com/a/5dt90

The playing surface is the only real "bad" part of it. So I just put my bamboo board over it:

http://imgur.com/a/7n1Cz

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


You went out and bought it?! It looks really nice.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

tonberrytoby posted:

So, I just found a go ranking test: http://play.baduk.org/
It told me I am supposed to be 3-kyu European. Looks like I am critically under ranked on KGS. :)

It gave me a rank of 5k. Given that I've played very little (3-5 9x9 games) of Go ever...


E: I didn't notice this post was a month old :downs: On a more recent topic, is KGS still a pretty decent place to play for a beginner?

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


KGS is great! The only real complaint I have is that there's no sound when you place a stone.

That test also gives me a European 7k which is like a 4k in Japan. I'll take that as a compliment. :colbert:

AdorableStar fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Dec 13, 2013

h_double
Jul 27, 2001

Kheldragar posted:

KGS is great! The only real complaint I have is that there's no sound when you place a stone.

The no stone clicks thing is a Java-related bug: https://www.gokgs.com/help/Java.html

Xom
Sep 2, 2008

文化英雄
Fan of Britches

h_double posted:

The no stone clicks thing is a Java-related bug: https://www.gokgs.com/help/Java.html
There are two ways to get the sound back:'javadummymixer_biguglyhack.zip' works for me (I'm on Windows 7). So I haven't tried the "Install Java 1.6" option.

amiantos
Oct 19, 2012

Kheldragar posted:

You went out and bought it?! It looks really nice.

They have more if anyone else lives in the LA area and wants one.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


Xom posted:

There are two ways to get the sound back:'javadummymixer_biguglyhack.zip' works for me (I'm on Windows 7). So I haven't tried the "Install Java 1.6" option.

The second one works for me. Now I just have to wait until monday to get my board. :sigh:

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
Haha, holy poo poo, what's wrong with Lee Sedol:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/38938

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.
The only experience I have with go is when I was working at a beach traveller camp in turkey and one night I was setting out dinner and noticed a huge amount of dorky looking awkward fucks in the queue and wondered what the gently caress until someone told me they were holding a go tournament over the weekend and these guys proceeded to goon the place up being antisocial and complaining about the music in the night bar and asking for skrillex and only drinking water or soda so gently caress go

Tequila Bob
Nov 2, 2011

IT'S HAL TIME, CHUMPS

Uncle Jam posted:

Haha, holy poo poo, what's wrong with Lee Sedol:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/38938

I think anyone who studied the rules of Go for 5 minutes would play D12 for move 371. What he played is beyond a beginner mistake.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!
are there phrases you can shout when doing certain moves like in mahjong to psyche out your opponent

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




yes.

yes there are.

HANE

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

Uncle Jam posted:

Haha, holy poo poo, what's wrong with Lee Sedol:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/38938

Does anyone have any more info on what went down, that game was nuts and the ending, well,

Under 15
Jan 6, 2005

Mr. Helsbecter will you please stop shooting I am on the phone

Lee is way behind. White has like nine more captures than white, so it's even worse than it looks. Maybe Lee just got pissed at b6 or something; a move like that seems like a suggestion on W's part that he ought to resign.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
I read that after Lee resigned they finished and counted normally, and he lost by 1.5. The sgf released by wbaduk is actually this non official version. Really weird in either case.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


Kheldragar posted:

KGS is great! The only real complaint I have is that there's no sound when you place a stone.

That test also gives me a European 7k which is like a 4k in Japan. I'll take that as a compliment. :colbert:

Going back to this, I think there's a huge difference between "Pick anywhere on the board" and "Pick the best that's these 5 places."

PrBacterio
Jul 19, 2000

Uncle Jam posted:

I read that after Lee resigned they finished and counted normally, and he lost by 1.5. The sgf released by wbaduk is actually this non official version. Really weird in either case.
what, how so? I mean, if you mean the count before the missed atari and loss of that gigantic black group. that huge white group in the lower left corner is dead, which makes it look to me like black should have been in the lead by a fair amount ... you know maybe I should just count the score myself, but if I missed something obvious I can save myself the effort :geno:

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

PrBacterio posted:

what, how so? I mean, if you mean the count before the missed atari and loss of that gigantic black group. that huge white group in the lower left corner is dead, which makes it look to me like black should have been in the lead by a fair amount ... you know maybe I should just count the score myself, but if I missed something obvious I can save myself the effort :geno:
No Lee is behind by at least 0.5 points ,thought I am not sure if I used the right komi.

Apogee15
Jun 16, 2013

PrBacterio posted:

what, how so? I mean, if you mean the count before the missed atari and loss of that gigantic black group. that huge white group in the lower left corner is dead, which makes it look to me like black should have been in the lead by a fair amount ... you know maybe I should just count the score myself, but if I missed something obvious I can save myself the effort :geno:

They say the game actually ended at move 366.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


The package arrived! :yayclod:


Here's the package:




Stones + mousepad :3:


The actual board itself; it even has a 13x13 on the back!


Now if only I can figure out how to place stones correctly, because proper technique is hard.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Kheldragar posted:

The package arrived! :yayclod:


Here's the package:




Stones + mousepad :3:


The actual board itself; it even has a 13x13 on the back!


Now if only I can figure out how to place stones correctly, because proper technique is hard.

nice package... for a nerd :twisted:

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


Livingtrope posted:

nice package... for a nerd :twisted:

go is for warriors!!!

Under 15
Jan 6, 2005

Mr. Helsbecter will you please stop shooting I am on the phone

Lee is definitely behind, no matter how you cut it. Sometimes a pro will do weird things at the end of a game to resign or suggest that their opponent should; it used to be relatively common to do something like play two stones at once or retake a ko illegally to indicate that you were done. That said, I wouldn't trust a wbaduk transcription, they make tons of mistakes and weird poo poo. The game probably ends at 366.

Under 15 fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Dec 17, 2013

surc
Aug 17, 2004

amiantos posted:

Here's pictures of that $101 floor goban from YMI

http://imgur.com/a/5dt90

The playing surface is the only real "bad" part of it. So I just put my bamboo board over it:

http://imgur.com/a/7n1Cz

:argh: Super jealous. You could probably fix the top, depending on how damaged it is you might have to be up for learning the proper way to put lines on it. (Or don't care if the lines are the same as they were before you fixed it).

Also, Dang Lee Sedol, Dang. :(

surc fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Dec 17, 2013

Apogee15
Jun 16, 2013

Kheldragar posted:

The package arrived! :yayclod:


Here's the package:




Stones + mousepad :3:


The actual board itself; it even has a 13x13 on the back!


Now if only I can figure out how to place stones correctly, because proper technique is hard.

Supposed to hold/place the stones like this. It might seem a little weird, but it does let you easily place a stone in the middle of a bunch of others without messing it up.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


Apogee15 posted:

Supposed to hold/place the stones like this. It might seem a little weird, but it does let you easily place a stone in the middle of a bunch of others without messing it up.



I think I got it down now; it was just so awkward at first.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Are boards ever made with tiny, shallow indentations at each vertex to keep the stones more stable, or is that considered uncouth?

Macavity
Jun 29, 2006

There never was a cat of such deceitfulness and suavity.
Fun Shoe
^Look at this loving gaijin

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


I used to think they were built like that; you mean they aren't?

Under 15
Jan 6, 2005

Mr. Helsbecter will you please stop shooting I am on the phone

They don't move around that much. If you want to be a freak about it, though, you can get a go board for the blind where there are indeed 361 cubbies you can put a stone in, which let you feel out the board without loving it up.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


Under 15 posted:

They don't move around that much. If you want to be a freak about it, though, you can get a go board for the blind where there are indeed 361 cubbies you can put a stone in, which let you feel out the board without loving it up.

Can you imagine playing Go without actually being able to see the entire board? :psypop: That's insane; are there any really good blind go players?

stoutfish
Oct 8, 2012

by zen death robot

Kheldragar posted:

Can you imagine playing Go without actually being able to see the entire board? :psypop: That's insane; are there any really good blind go players?

imagine playing go like no board chess "play on d 17"

it would take quite a bit of brain power

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

Kheldragar posted:

Can you imagine playing Go without actually being able to see the entire board? :psypop: That's insane; are there any really good blind go players?

I once read about a blind player at a go tournament. Playing sighted opponents she was 25k or so. When she played blindfolded opponents, she beat dan players.


mdemone posted:

Are boards ever made with tiny, shallow indentations at each vertex to keep the stones more stable, or is that considered uncouth?

Aren't Chinese stones flat on the bottom?

The General
Mar 4, 2007


House Louse posted:

Aren't Chinese stones flat on the bottom?

Yeah they are, and I hate them for play. Though I do wish I had a set of Chinese stones for teaching purposes. You can just put them on the board upside down for showing things, then remove them to where you left off.

Edit: Also plastic "stones" are terrible too. They get so greasy and oily so fast and just feel gross. Yunzi stones are fantastic though.

surc
Aug 17, 2004

mdemone posted:

Are boards ever made with tiny, shallow indentations at each vertex to keep the stones more stable, or is that considered uncouth?

If you're fine without the lines being laid down properly as lacquer applied from a katana then YEAH I GUESS YOU COULD RUIN THE WHOLE THING GOD YOU USELESS GAIJIN.

(That is actually the traditional Japanese way to do it, and as a result the lines are slightly raised from the board. I have not seen any chinese or korean goban makers, but I assume it is similar processes because tradition. I'm having trouble finding it at the moment, but there's an old japanese book that details the process. I've been trying to pick it up for a while just for the nifty factor --it's in japanese, so hard for me to use as instructions--, but amazon.jp sellers won't ship it outside of japan :()

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o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

Yeah the japanese have this aesthetic thing for poo poo that's broken so they don't much care for a totally ordered board with all the stones equally placed, something to do with this or some poo poo

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