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goldboilermark posted:How in the world do you think the Wechat group would be even remotely helpful for anyone coming over here right now. You seem obsessed with that group, I can't figure out how in the world you can't see how horrifically awkward and cringe-inducing it is to any normal person who is not a complete...I don't know. I don't know what word to use here. Yeah, I feel as though my life already has the correct amount of inane and infantile stuff in it without the Wechat group contributing. Furthermore it would require I get a smart phone and I can't be loving bothered to do that. Much to my satisfaction, the bosses have pretty much given up on trying to make me buy one. The fewer ways people have to contact me, the better.
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China wechat is not much different from Japan LINE or Korean Kakao. It's a sub group of FYAD light.goldboilermark posted:How in the world do you think the Wechat group would be even remotely helpful for anyone coming over here right now. You seem obsessed with that group, I can't figure out how in the world you can't see how horrifically awkward and cringe-inducing it is to any normal person who is not a complete...I don't know. I don't know what word to use here. Some things Goonwechat is useful for:
But yeah, nothing too unique special, just things flow faster. quote:I've been over here for four years and that Wechat group made me want to leave China MORE THAN actual China. The goons, or whoever else some of those people are, that actually post there actually made me want to leave China more than the making GBS threads, spitting, lying, pollution, swearing, staring and straight up lack of manners of normal China. That's impressive. I'm sorry that you find some chat group full of internet people paying  to be more disturbing than real developing country/China problems  quote:Now that I'm off that boat I'm back to just sometimes disliking the making GBS threads and spitting and pollution, but those aren't as bad as they used to be, as I'm heading to Japan next week and then I have another business trip to the states in less than 5 months. Have fun and have you applied to be a special visitor for AKB48  Please get some Tokyo Banana!quote:Bottom line: If Facepalm Ranger thinks people are being hard on him now, we will seem like a freakin' Disney Classic here compared to how that group interacts. I get it that it is a cute little community that seems to interact somewhat well together but it is certainly not for everyone and trying to get everyone to join that as they are fresh off the boat just seems like a really, really strange idea to me. That's all. People would be brutally honest to Facepalm Ranger, that's for sure. But Facepalm Ranger will have much bigger problems facing him when he is settling in a new country. Wechat is just another avenue of communication. Jeoh posted:I regret never getting to meet any of the Chengoons. They sound like a fun group of well-adjusted people (with a yak obsession). Hey man I took a picture of a shipment of Dutch Potato Flower and I immediately thought of you  But it's in WECHAT goldboilermark posted:It was actually the Wechat group that was THE reason why I didn't go to the Goon Meet in Beijing. I always thought it would be fun to go to one of those at some point...and then I joined that group. Honest to God I tried to fit in for a while, but I just couldn't do it. I thought you were going to your friend's concert and your JAPANESE GIRLFRIEND was going as well? Anyways, that's really too bad. We just had (according to PPL, because it's not home made) pizza. Some of us went to a bar and just chatted some more, but some didn't like alcohol and just left. Which was fine. Not much more different than an average meet and greet. I suppose I really like SA for the information and humour it has provided me. All I wanted to do was network goons together and have a blast in China. Or host for people and all. Pro-PRC Laowai posted:It's just his little way of pretending that hong kong matters, well... that, and a whole bunch of people who are basically some twisted form of chinaboo that don't even live here. Hong Kong matters because I live here. Just as how some back country Nth ring road in Beijing matter to you. You calling us twisted form of Chinaboo is just rich when you are an apologist for a kleptocratic inefficient corrupt government. And you really are rich when you absconded from your student debt and advise people to commit financial fraud. quote:Doesn't change the fact that it's a pretty lovely group. Well it's definitely a lovely group to you! But you don't really care, you already got banned and probated in SA a bajillion times and you still come back. So it's open season on you  Like it or not, like the wretched Chinese bureaucracy you will be always be there. You probably like the attention for being so lonely all the time.You seem to be a smart dude, adjusting life to China and all. Props to that. But other people have done the same, without being a smug rear end in a top hat all the time. And obtained Chinese Nationality instead of being some drifter who makes pizza for the Public security bureau and carries around a set of lock picks. "Hey guys look at me! I managed to convince CHINESE PEOPLE TO PARK THEIR CARS PROPERLY!" "Hey Hey, I started a mini protest by handing out flyers and giving ideas in the background!" But what can I say? Pizza and lock picks are memorable stories. We (or at least I) love you for posting train schedules, getting internet banking to work, or knowing some obscure way to make life work. And we are enamored with your child too. But I think your political views are crap and roll my eyes at how smug you can get and how infallible you think you are. I'm going to leave the trash talking to the internet though. Nobody deserves to be treated like crap in person on a first to meet basis. I think that's the key guys. It's the internet. caberham fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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caberham posted:[*] People can also quickly post wonderful pictures such as food,  caberham posted:kids peeing in the street,
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caberham posted:TRUTH Goon Chat is fun and everyone I've met from there irl is fun and has a great sense of humor. China can grind away at the most well adjusted person so GC is there to vent your frustrations. Its also there if you need help with directions, recommendations, and lately JOBS. It can get chaotic in there at times though. A lot of crude humor goes on in there so it may turn off some people. Overall, its a fun place to hang out and meet other Goons. Just last month, there was a Shanghai Goon Meet. I had a great lunch at Morton's over at the new IAPM mall with Caberham, RocknRolla, and a few other goons. I brought my neighbor and he laughed his rear end off. The best part was when we were doing commentary on Caberham eating EVERYTHING. It was like he had a black hole in his stomach. Something you have to see to believe!
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caberham posted:It's the internet. I thought it was ? Anyway I'll try join the wechat group again, I think I tried using the weird barcode on the OP but it said it was full. I can lurk there until I arrive in glorious leader's land.Caberham seems like a cool dude and after looking at the list of who's where, the guys in Chengdu seem pretty chill as is chengdu's namesake. Sure not everyday will be a happy day, but I'll make drat sure that most days are darn close to it, as I can. So how cheap can I get an iPhone 5c in those little secret shops? Cause man do I love those little secret shops!
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The wechat group is a few girls who want to practice their English that don't post here, a random guy who posts porn tumblrs, and anytime you ask a question you get raged at. I've been here a while so I don't post questions there but SA is modded...that group isn't. Maybe in an idealistic view it could be better but don't kid yourself into thinking it is something other than that. It's not. It's a negative group that is not open to differing opinions and random hardcore porno pics of like penises with diseases. All of that has honestly occurred there, I can't see how that is helpful or welcoming to a new person. But again, everyone can have a try. It's your choice. But like I was told "it's the Internet!" But just know that there are actual decent china expats over here, despite what you read in that thing. It's my job o help people adjust over here and I think that thing would just be awful to show someone who just showed up. TWM said I am just an old man. Maybe. Maybe I am just not cool. Who knows.
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Facepalm Ranger posted:I thought it was Iphone and cheap do not belong in the same sentence here
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gwrtheyrn posted:Iphone and cheap do not belong in the same sentence here Cheap compared to the uk. When my girlfriend lost her's and mama's phones they got two 4s for the price of one in the uk. Facepalm Ranger fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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Facepalm Ranger posted:Cheap compared to the uk. When my girlfriend lost her's and mama's phones they got two 4s for the price of one in the uk. Well you might be able to find some of questionable quality or origin, yes. But real and new iPhone 5+ are more expensive in China than most places, though relatively cheap in HK. A buddy of mine used to exclusively buy phones from the (obviously stolen) used phone market. But after getting a couple duds gave up and bought a decent new phone. Buy a Moto G, awesome and cheap. SB35 fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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Caberham posted:
Nearly every time I asked for help in the Wechat, I got some snide, sarcastic response from the same churlish, pedantic manbaby. I quickly learned not to ask language questions, etc., due to this situation. I thought the Wechat group was really fun for a long time, and there are some smart, well-adjusted people on there (particularly the Chengoons, and some Shanghai/HK'ers/Malay'er whose forum names I'm not familiar with). Also, I dig the support aspect of it, especially when people are going through some rough China poo poo. Not really anything wrong with that. However, after a while it became something I'd perpetually distract myself with, frequently checking for new messages in lieu of real-life responsibilities, or more productive means of disposing of my time. That's part of why I got out of there. Really, though, it was just the one motherfucker that pushed me into quitting. The Wechat Group does have a good heart, though, and it was helpful for my first few weeks in China before finding my circle of corporeal friends. Caberham posted:I think that's the key guys. It's the internet. I might be in the minority, but I couldn't disagree more. Cyber-communication is ubiquitous now, and you should hold yourself to (roughly) the same code of conduct that you would in everyday life. In 2013, I don't think it's fair to say "it's [just] the internet" anymore: It's NOT okay to adopt a mean-spirited, pompous attitude towards people. There's a difference between giving poo poo to friends that you know can take it, and adopting some creepish, pseudo high-school bully, cyber-prick persona and claim it's part of the SA ethos.  Also, it's NOT okay to take pictures of people in public without their knowledge, or consent, and post them online for your own amusement. In fact, it's creepy and morally reprehensible. You might chalk this kind of behavior up to it being "the internet", but in reality, it's just being an rear end in a top hat and it should make you feel like a shithead regardless of whether it happens in real life, in a chat group, or on an web forum. That kinda poo poo pervades all corners of your life. If you're an rear end in a top hat or a pervert on the internet, you're probably just an rear end in a top hat or a pervert in general. Rental Sting fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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Rental Sting posted:Cyber-communication is ubiquitous now, and you should hold yourself to (roughly) the same code of conduct that you would in everyday life. Careful, buddy. I said the same thing and got blasted with IT IS THE INTERNET!!!!!!
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Then again, I will actively go out of my way to avoid meeting these posters in the Wechat group so no worries haha
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Maybe they are different in real life. I hope to visit Tianjin and meet The Worst Muslim. I imagine him as an anonymous poet, strolling along the bars of Tianjin, occassionally reciting from his own works out of nowhere. What I'm saying is get your poo poo together China and become more like the Korean goons, where the group chat is filled with "IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN" and pooppics. (i love you waygoonins)
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Jeoh posted:Maybe they are different in real life. Rental Sting posted:If you're an rear end in a top hat or a pervert on the internet, you're probably just an rear end in a top hat or a pervert in general. I'm sorry but the second one makes much more sense than the first one. If you are asking me to randomly choose one, I would choose the second. If you are asking me to choose one after I spent two months in the Wechat group ,I would stay as far away as possible from every single person in the Wechat group that actively posted there. I hate to keep banging this drum but I've gotten enough PMs and Wechats telling me they feel like I do. Please stop inviting people to this group of weirdos and saying it is China Goons. Thank you.
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Rental Sting posted:I might be in the minority, but I couldn't disagree more. Cyber-communication is ubiquitous now, and you should hold yourself to (roughly) the same code of conduct that you would in everyday life. In 2013, I don't think it's fair to say "it's [just] the internet" anymore: It's NOT okay to adopt a mean-spirited, pompous attitude towards people. There's a difference between giving poo poo to friends that you know can take it, and adopting some creepish, pseudo high-school bully, cyber-prick persona and claim it's part of the SA ethos. I couldn't agree more. Anonymity reveals character, which isn't something that can or should be split between real life and the internet (which is a false dualism to begin with). Taking pictures of people so you can somehow amuse yourself and/or others with the image is indeed pretty reprehensible. Worse still is taking pictures of kids relieving themselves in public. That's loving sick. I don't care what justification people use for it. It's not okay. There are plenty of other ways to dissuade people from using the sidewalk as a latrine. blinkyzero fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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blinkyzero posted:I couldn't agree more. Anonymity reveals character, which isn't something that can or should be split between real life and the internet (which is a false dualism to begin with). I've already seen porn and snaps of strangers making out in the streets on the wechat group. I feel dirty....
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You guys sure love writing paragraphs upon paragraphs about WeChat group drama in a Tourism and Travel thread. I personally think what some of you have posted here have been disrespectful to those of us who have spent time and money hosting, guiding and entertaining you for no other reason than the fact that we want to welcome you into the community. If you guys can't disconnect internet from reality then gently caress Off and live your own Eat Pray Love life without us. We don't give a gently caress. Stop posting about it.
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Lady Galaga posted:You guys sure love writing paragraphs upon paragraphs about WeChat group drama in a Tourism and Travel thread. ...not bad dirty though.
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Let me get this out of the way.SB35 posted:Well you might be able to find some of questionable quality or origin, yes. But real and new iPhone 5+ are more expensive in China than most places, though relatively cheap in HK. Pretty much this. It's easy, plain vanilla Google Android. If you are adventurous you might be able to mod it with Cyanogen Mod in the future. Get the Moto G or the tried and true Xiaomi 2S GSM (or the xiaomi 3 when it comes out).
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I'm very sorry for all this wechat nonsense goldboilermark posted:The wechat group is a few girls who want to practice their English that don't post here This is just utterly false. One of the girls has a Master's in Lingusitics at HK Polytech University and is a registered teacher with other certifications. The other girl is very funny. They may not be fluent like a first language speaker but they can sure hold any intellectual conversation on their own. No one ever needs to "practice their English", and even if anyone ever wanted to, they would not go to some channel full of stupid tumblrs  What you said was really presumptuous, condescending, and worst of all, quite racist. goldboilermark posted:oooooohhh you're not going to be popular in the wechat group quote:TWM said I am just an old man. Maybe. Maybe I am just not cool. Who knows. Nobody cares about being cool. There never was a popularity contest, but you have reached #1 in being a closeted bigot 
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Hey guys this is drifting perilously close to offsite drama, can we reel it in so I don't have to probate anybody I hate punishment
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Shut up and tell me some tourist poo poo Where is the mountain temple where you have to walk around a cliff on little planks of wood to climb up, and where is the hella scenic pointy spires in a lake or something?
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The Hanging Temple is in Datong and the pointy spires are the karst formations in Guilin. I think the ridiculously dangerous wood plank climb is different than the Hanging Temple though, I'm not sure.
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Yeah the planks sound like Hua Shan near Xian. But it's been pussified so there's little risk of death and dismemberment.
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Grand Fromage posted:Hey guys this is drifting perilously close to offsite drama, can we reel it in so I don't have to probate anybody I hate punishment My apologies, I started all of this and I won't mention it again.
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My wife and I are thinking of going to Tianjin next week because it's close and neither of us have been and we both want to get the gently caress out of Beijing. What does one just GOTTA do in Tianjin, and what's a decent hotel that's warm, clean, and cheap?
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goldboilermark posted:My apologies, I started all of this and I won't mention it again. Don't worry about it. I know it's related, we have our Kakao chat in Korea too.
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There was a goose in the elevator this morning. It happens pretty often in the boonies where I lived. I posted a picture of it in wechat and got a couple amused responses and then someone posted a gay porn macro.
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Arglebargle III posted:There was a goose in the elevator this morning. It happens pretty often in the boonies where I lived. I posted a picture of it in wechat and got a couple amused responses and then someone posted a gay porn macro. That wasn't gay porn it was a black woman.
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Grand Fromage posted:The Hanging Temple is in Datong This is one of my favorite places I've ever been in China, by the way. I actually really loved my whole trip to the coal country of Shanxi. The whole time I was in the Hanging Monastery I kept thinking about how ninth century Chinese monks did not build this place with 21st century fat goons in mind, but it sure enough supported my weight in the end. Good job, Air Nomads.
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The Worst Muslim posted:That wasn't gay porn it was a black woman. Was she gay?
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other [o] Please Describe: Scottish. Back to questions though. Having been to Chengdu before, is the best nightclub really Muse? (I think it's called muse, it's within walking distance from the fluent bridge(?)) Or are there others that are at least on par or better? Facepalm Ranger fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Dec 21, 2013 |
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Facepalm Ranger posted:other [o] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDQ1Bw87_J0 Nine eyes bridge (jiuyanqiao). The other clubs down that road are all pretty much the same, then you have Jellyfish and the one next to it I forget the name of which is full of desperate westerners and tear gas.
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Jimmy Little Balls posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDQ1Bw87_J0 The nine eyes bridge! That's the one! You mean there's a place I can go to be exclusively desperate and tear gassed?! Oh boy!
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Muse is alright but the table service sucks and the Haagen Dazs is too warm.
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All the clubs around Jiuyanqiao are just as awful as Jellyfish and the others in that complex. There just aren't any foreigners going to the Jiuyanqiao places. I live a stone's throw away from Muse and pass the place every morning. The whole block smells of baijiu puke. I think there are a lot of places with great potential, but you couldn't get an expat here to go outside his comfort zone if you put a gun to his head.
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Smeef posted:All the clubs around Jiuyanqiao are just as awful as Jellyfish and the others in that complex. There just aren't any foreigners going to the Jiuyanqiao places. I live a stone's throw away from Muse and pass the place every morning. The whole block smells of baijiu puke. I think there are a lot of places with great potential, but you couldn't get an expat here to go outside his comfort zone if you put a gun to his head. Baiju puke?? Also what is an Expat??
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Expat = Expatriate, someone not living in their country of origin. Night life here is pretty different from back home, Chinese people seem to just go out with a group of friends, sit down all night and play that dice game or the number guessing one I can never remember the rules of without talking to anyone else. How much fun you have depends more on who you are with than where you go. We have a group of Tibetan friends we usually go drinking with who are all completely insane and always have fun, but if they aren't about we just pick the most fun looking group in the place and go and talk to them, everyone loves laowais and you will get free drinks all night. I prefer Jiuyanqiao to the foreigner places mainly because there aren't so many foreigners there, living in Thailand has created an aversion to expats for me.
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