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VendaGoat posted:Sooooooo many questions. I think the bigger problem is Americas constant rape of language. Pizza is not pie you poo poo.
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VanSandman posted:Kids are cool in small doses. I refuse to let this advice not make it to the new page.
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Dec 21, 2013 08:57
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VanSandman posted:I refuse to let this advice not make it to the new page. I know, can't let your bait for new victims go to waste like that. What I'm implying is that you're planning to ambush women going to see American Hustle then go all Jamie Gumb on them.
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Motherfucker posted:I think the bigger problem is Americas constant rape of language. It's more of a tart and that doesn't sound right at all when spoken
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Dec 21, 2013 09:02
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Cats are baby subs Babies are division 1 Dogs somewhere between
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Dec 21, 2013 09:36
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I know, can't let your bait for new victims go to waste like that. I don't know who that is. Also saw it with a dude so nyah
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Dec 21, 2013 17:27
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VanSandman posted:I don't know who that is. the serial killer from Silence of the Lambs
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Silence of the Lambs gave so much to the world. Has anyone read anything good lately? The last amazing novel I read was The Crimson Petal and the White, by Michel Faber. I'm considering re-reading it because nothing I've read since has come close, but there's so much out there. I guess I like (well-written) historical fiction best, if anyone knows of anything.
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Dec 21, 2013 18:39
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have you ever read any umberto eco? 'foucault's pendulum' and 'the name of the rose' are very good, though 'foucault's pendulum' is more of a postmodern retelling of historical fiction if that makes any sense. 'libra' by don delillo is cool too, it's a reconfiguration of jkf assassination conspiracy theories centred around lee harvey oswald and the cia. 'the amazing adventures of kavalier and clay' by michael chabon is always great my favourite novel is 'frankenstein' and i think my favourite genres are gothic and southern gothic, although my favourit writers are kurt vonnegut and gloria anzaldua who are absolutely not gothic. in terms of gothic, ann radcliffe's 'the romance of the forest' is really loving cool, and for southern gothic 'suttree' by cormac mccarthy and basically anything by flannery o'connor or william faulkner. gloria anzaldua writes poetry and essays, and 'borderlands/la frontera' is her best-known work, while for kurt vonnegut i'd go for 'slaughterhouse five' or 'mother night' as an introduction because you like historical fiction. also obvi 'the handmaid's tale' by margaret atwood
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Dec 21, 2013 19:28
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I just finished re-reading a great historical novel that takes place in the decade before the Great Depression called "The Great American Novel," by Clyde Brion Davis. It was apparently very unsuccessful when it was published during the Depression because of how dark it was, so it's relatively unknown and I don't think there are any recent editions. My copy was given to me several years ago by an old high school teacher and it's the first edition from the 1930's. It's an extremely bleak but very funny satire of modernist values and American optimism. The main character is a pathetic beat journalist whose weak will results in his losing everything he cares about, but through an incredible series of mental gymnastics he manages to convince himself that his life is exactly where he wants it to be. His denial is compared with the denial of the pre-depression era, and society's relentless faith in the American system as it shows more and more obvious signs of impending collapse. It's an amazing book if you can find a copy!
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Dec 21, 2013 19:30
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poo poo that sounds loving great
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GrrrlSweatshirt posted:I just finished re-reading a great historical novel that takes place in the decade before the Great Depression called "The Great American Novel," by Clyde Brion Davis. It was apparently very unsuccessful when it was published during the Depression because of how dark it was, so it's relatively unknown and I don't think there are any recent editions. My copy was given to me several years ago by an old high school teacher and it's the first edition from the 1930's. So an American Candide? That sounds awesome. Fruity Gordo, we seem to have fairly similar taste in books, I actually just re-read Kavalier and Clay and am slowly picking my way through A Model World (I like to ration out short story collections). Breakfast of Champions is probably my favorite Vonnegut, though.
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I tried to read Sarah Vowel's Unfamiliar Fishes, but gave up a quarter of the way through and just listened to the audiobook. it's weird to hear her voice in your head when your used to hearing her voice from the radioAngela Christine posted:The idea is that when you are old and dying you can console yourself with the thought that you've left bratty grandchildren to keep loving up the world in your place. YOur av makes me want to watch Felidae again
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Dec 21, 2013 19:37
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Yeah it's an awesome read, you laugh a lot while you're actually reading it but then get kind of sad every time you close the book and think of the implications of the humor. If you want to read it there are some old copies available on Amazon for next to nothing- Four bucks including shipping and handling. Crow Jane posted:So an American Candide? That sounds awesome. I compared it to Candide when I first heard it described but after reading it I feel like it's pretty different. There's none of the slapstick quality or fable-like structure that characterizes Candide; everything that befalls the main character is entirely believable and legitimately tragic, and you can see him having to work harder and harder throughout the book to convince himself he isn't a failure. There's not really the same lightheartedness in the book as in Candide. It's a genuinely depressing book that also happens to be really loving funny GrrrlSweatshirt fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Dec 21, 2013 |
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Fruity Gordo posted:also obvi 'the handmaid's tale' by margaret atwood I saw book talk and came here to post this. I was wary about the book initially because it didn't seem my cup of tea but the way it presented a dystopian, fundamentalist society that is born out of a country that was contemporary and modern was really well done. It gave me pause to think about how easy and quickly it would be for our society to take a step (or two) backwards. Good read. Read it. Reeaaad it.
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Dec 21, 2013 19:40
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I LOVE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS. my two favourites are cat's cradle and breakfast i think, and my favourite between the two depends on which one i last read. right now it's cat's cradle because i havent read that one in like two years and my brain is telling me 'hurry up that book is the best', but i read timequake two months ago and it shattered me so i have to ration the vonnegut in case the sadbrains flares up
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Dec 21, 2013 19:41
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I live literally around the corner from an awesome non-profit that gives out as many free books as you can carry every weekend. The trouble is just in knowing what to look for. Normally I grab anything that sounds remotely interesting and if I don't like it I return it (eventually). Recommendations keep me from turning into a hoarder, though, so keep em coming. If anyone likes extremely well-researched historical mysteries, Charles Palliser's The Quincunx is one of the best reading experiences I've ever had.
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Dec 21, 2013 19:43
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boom boom boom posted:I tried to read Sarah Vowel's Unfamiliar Fishes, but gave up a quarter of the way through and just listened to the audiobook. it's weird to hear her voice in your head when your used to hearing her voice from the radio ooooh have you read/listened to assassination vacation? it's so loving funny, and it made me, a rabid commie, fall in love with president garfield the other comedy thing about garfield is, i have this book about medical coverups in the white house called 'medical coverups in the white house' and it has an entire chapter about him being taken out on a boat to have surgery done to remove half his cancerous soft palate because the gossip press was that ridiculous in 1879 or whenever that they preferred to risk killing him at sea than operate on him on shore
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Cat's Cradle is my least favorite Vonnegut. Like, it's the only Vonnegut novel i don't love.
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Dec 21, 2013 19:47
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Fruity Gordo posted:ooooh have you read/listened to assassination vacation? it's so loving funny, and it made me, a rabid commie, fall in love with president garfield Yeah, i really liked that one. wordy shipmates, on the other hand, was so goddamn boring. medical coverups in the white house sounds p. good, i like the title. especially if the cover on amazon is the actual cover.
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Dec 21, 2013 19:51
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^^^and there's the answer to that.Fruity Gordo posted:ooooh have you read/listened to assassination vacation? it's so loving funny, and it made me, a rabid commie, fall in love with president garfield Assassination Vacation is great, have you read The Wordy Shipmates? I have a copy lying around somewhere, but haven't read it yet
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Dec 21, 2013 19:51
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boom boom boom posted:Cat's Cradle is my least favorite Vonnegut. Like, it's the only Vonnegut novel i don't love. ooh how come?
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Dec 21, 2013 19:52
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Fruity Gordo posted:ooh how come? I think it's because it feels angrier than the others. I don't know how to say it really, but all the others are like, disappointed, but still hopeful about people? but Cat's Cradle it felt like he was just angry about people. which I get, I just didn't enjoy it as much as the others.
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I haven't read much vonnegut but the best one I've read was galapagos
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oh yeah i totally get that. the entire concept of ice-9 is so extreme and the ending is really biblical compared to the endings of all his other novels. weirdly the novel that's most depressed me is timequake, and i think it's because of the palpable sense of ennui bc of his age. he wrote cat's cradle when he was so young and angry, and i'm young and angry, so idk. i think i dread my anger turning to ennui more than it already has, and cat's cradle reminds me what it's like to be young and want to eat the rich in a weird way because it's kind of comforting to me that even kurt 'kindness personified' vonnegut was all 'gently caress this gay earth' when he was my age  e: actually, i think that the older vonnegut was when he wrote his novels, the less likely i am to enjoy them. i don't quite know to to explain the difference between loving them and enjoying them, because i really loving love timquake especially, but i can't say i enjoyed it more than sh5 or dead-eye dick or cat's cradle because it was so just so permeated by exactly what you said, this sense of disappointment. the disappointment is so appropriate and palpable, it's way more disquieting for me than anger which i imagine is the major difference between the ways you and i read or even see things. which isn't good or bad, it's just a difference. i always saw the disappointment as being increasing hopelessness because anger suggests that there is hope and people being shitheads is just them and those deadshits should stop being shitheads and get their poo poo together, rather than there being an inherent disappointing shitheadedness in us all which society preys on and intensifies. idk i need to think more i think boom boom boom posted:Yeah, i really liked that one. wordy shipmates, on the other hand, was so goddamn boring. medical coverups in the white house sounds p. good, i like the title. especially if the cover on amazon is the actual cover. it's so good, mcmahon editorialises all the way through and he's such a judgemental loving bitch Fruity Gordo fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Dec 21, 2013 |
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GrrrlSweatshirt posted:One of my friends from work is pregnant and I'm scared she'll turn from a fun and extremely irresponsible person into a boring high-strung mom like the kind we make fun of after they drop their kids off She will. The few who have babies and remain cool are rare indeed. scorpiobean posted:Definitely this. Mostly because the baby is all they post about on Facebook. And at least that part makes sense, but I had a friend who posted a status about being depressed and mom responded 'I know what will cheer you up! TIME WITH MY BABY' Ahh but have they started a Facebook page for the baby yet? That's how you know the've truly slipped into madness. Fruity Gordo posted:have you ever read any umberto eco? 'foucault's pendulum' and 'the name of the rose' are very good, though 'foucault's pendulum' is more of a postmodern retelling of historical fiction if that makes any sense. 'libra' by don delillo is cool too, it's a reconfiguration of jkf assassination conspiracy theories centred around lee harvey oswald and the cia. 'the amazing adventures of kavalier and clay' by michael chabon is always great GrrrlSweatshirt posted:I just finished re-reading a great historical novel that takes place in the decade before the Great Depression called "The Great American Novel," by Clyde Brion Davis. It was apparently very unsuccessful when it was published during the Depression because of how dark it was, so it's relatively unknown and I don't think there are any recent editions. My copy was given to me several years ago by an old high school teacher and it's the first edition from the 1930's. Re: vonnegutchat. Audible has a recording of him reading passages from Slaughterhouse 5, Breakfast of Champions, Cats Cradle and something else I can't remember right now. One of those-ish. He sounds like a sweet old grandpa. So it's pretty much as good as you think.
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I got to Connie Willis late, but I'm all over that poo poo now. If you're not looking to be destroyed, don't start with The Doomsday Book.
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i saw thewords doomsday book and i read tha tbook and it rocked yall should read it well bye
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Gonna do some Christmas baking today. Mint chocolate chip ice cream bread/cake for my mom and some Tetris sugar cookies. I haven't made Tetris cookies in years.
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Anne Whateley posted:I got to Connie Willis late, but I'm all over that poo poo now. For some reason I thought you said the Domesday Book.
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Yeah that's what it's kind of based around. It is really good, just not something to start with if you don't want to be depressed. Plague is a bummer that way.
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Nessa posted:Gonna do some Christmas baking today. yo post what you did and how it turns out, i'm so intrigued by ice cream bread but i'm way too cheap and greedy to buy nice ice cream and try it. i bought a really nice tub of boysenberry icecream and then got high and ate most of it and was like 'WORTH IT', so lemme know if baking it is also worth it bc eating baked munchies would be delicious irony
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Nessa posted:Gonna do some Christmas baking today. I'm making vegan mince pies & taking some over to a friend who had a baby 3 weeks ago (and I will get to hold the baby)
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HipGnosis posted:She will. The few who have babies and remain cool are rare indeed. oryx and crake is awesome, read that poo poo did vonnegut sound really wheezy while reading it? i cant remember when, i think it was in 2005 when this fire happened in his house and destroyed his archives and it hosed his voice up, and i've only ever heard readings and speeches by him with his post-fire wheezy voice. the only interview i've seen with him (and the only time i've heard his non-wheezy voice) apart from when jon stewart appropriately rimmed him on the daily show is the BBC2 one from like 30 years ago at any rate, that sounds awesome, and he WAS a sweet old grandpa. i wrote him a letter back in the day asking if he would be my grandpa because i've never had one and he replied with something like 'of course i will be, as long as you don't want me to do anything for you' 
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Fruity Gordo posted:yo post what you did and how it turns out, i'm so intrigued by ice cream bread but i'm way too cheap and greedy to buy nice ice cream and try it. i bought a really nice tub of boysenberry icecream and then got high and ate most of it and was like 'WORTH IT', so lemme know if baking it is also worth it bc eating baked munchies would be delicious irony I've made the ice cream bread before and it's stupidly easy. If you add less ice cream to flour, it turns out more biscuity. More ice cream will make it more cakey. Chocolate swirl ice cream will give you a really cool chocolate swirl loaf. You don't even need to buy really nice ice cream. I just used the cheap stuff that comes in a box. Get a bucket of tiger ice cream and make a tiger cake.
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UnnaturalSELECTION posted:Waxing hurts So does getting your hair bleached properly.
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the beef i always had with bleaching my hair is that, in order for the hair to bleach properly, you really have to strip out all the oils. but when you strip out all the oils in preparation for bleaching you rip the poo poo out of your scalp, so bleaching is always going to hurt because in order for it to look right you have to do it to an unhealthy scalp now that i have my natural hair colour back it's a revelation just how sturdy my natural hair is compared to the bits which are still bleached. i have a straight cut so i have about two and a half inches of bleach in the hair on the top of my head and none on the hair below my ears, and the ends at my ears have no split ends while the bleached tips are horrific i need to remember this poo poo because i've always wanted long hair and i keep ruining my chances at having it by dyeing the poo poo out of my hair and having to chop it off while it's still short. i'm almost at the middle of my shoulderblades and i have to chop an inch off every month and a half to keep my poo poo healthy. gently caress you bleach
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