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Fulchrum posted:You're seriously dismissing black people dying first in horror movies as not happening? Make up your mind, horror movies or zombie movies. This is important. ED: Oh God, new page. ED2: And I see I've been beaten like a dead horse. SnakePlissken fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:You'll never convince me that having him survive the night only to be shot by an armed white mob and then have his body incinerated wasn't a commentary on racial politics. Don't they just shoot him on sight anyway? Open the attic, sees him there, shoots him before he gets a word out? Been maybe 15 years since I've seen it.
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Ugh, as if I needed any more context to make the phenomenon of NRA and prepper types saying they can't wait to shoot "zombies" instead of blacks/the UN/liberals more disgusting.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Don't they just shoot him on sight anyway? Open the attic, sees him there, shoots him before he gets a word out? Nah, they see him through the window, hes 'acting' like a zombie, just sitting there thinking, and they shoot him. I'm a massive 80s horror film fan here, and I can only think of one horror film that had the black guy die first, and I think I'm wrong with that too. From Beyond. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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Jan 6, 2014 22:31
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ReindeerF posted:Most people post-LF go bonkers telling everyone how every single thing in America is about race. I'm not one of those people. Life is complex and some things are about race while many things are not - or are intertwined. However, there is a massive body of work on zombie movies and their relation to the civil rights/race riots of the times. Hit Google for 30 seconds and you'll find it. It's more complex than, "Black people are bad," which is why I said I don't think George Romero intentionally was targeting black people - he was targeting the fears of people who were scared to death of the civil unrest. I know it's connected, but it's stupid to say that it's a one to one relationship. It was probably part opportunism and part vision of a new kind of horror movie. Who knows? Anyway, it's like an established field of film criticism and theory for like forty years. Goons did not just figure this out recently, nor do they have the most nuanced opinions on the topic. Yeah, I actually wrote a similar thesis on movies in college. It's not a new idea at all, so I was pretty much phoning the paper in.
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Is there no longer a GOP politics thread? This will work here I guess...it's a campaign video for Tim Donelly (R) who's running for CA governor. War against women? I got one word for ya: Chappaquiddick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN0DRgfoyRc
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ReindeerF posted:Most people post-LF go bonkers telling everyone how every single thing in America is about race. I'm not one of those people. Life is complex and some things are about race while many things are not - or are intertwined. However, there is a massive body of work on zombie movies and their relation to the civil rights/race riots of the times. Hit Google for 30 seconds and you'll find it. It's more complex than, "Black people are bad," which is why I said I don't think George Romero intentionally was targeting black people - he was targeting the fears of people who were scared to death of the civil unrest. I know it's connected, but it's stupid to say that it's a one to one relationship. It was probably part opportunism and part vision of a new kind of horror movie. Who knows? Anyway, it's like an established field of film criticism and theory for like forty years. Goons did not just figure this out recently, nor do they have the most nuanced opinions on the topic. I am aware of this, but its far more complicated the "the black guys get killed first."
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Zeroisanumber posted:The caller probably exaggerated and meant that he was running around someplace in Alaska during the summertime. There's no way that he was running around on an ice shelf without a shirt on.  quote:...
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Rush posted:RUSH: A whiteout? He said, fully erect.
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kik2dagroin posted:It's really too good not to post Ehhhh... I could buy 40 degrees at McMurdo in the summertime. I didn't know we had Coast Guard icebreakers working that far south.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Ehhhh... I could buy 40 degrees at McMurdo in the summertime. I didn't know we had Coast Guard icebreakers working that far south. gently caress, you just disproved global warming. At least I can get my incandescent bulb back.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Ehhhh... I could buy 40 degrees at McMurdo in the summertime. I didn't know we had Coast Guard icebreakers working that far south. Fun bit of trivia that would blow a dittohead's mind. One of their Polar Class Icebreakers, the USCGC Healy, is named after Captain Michael A. Healy the first black man to command a ship in the US Coast Guard; commissioned by President Lincoln himself. He was also one of the biggest supporters of native independence, maintaining the Alaskan subsistence lifestyle, and has the town outside of Denali National Park named after him.
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Yeah. So I wasn't disappointed today regarding the "Jesus Christ! It's freezing everywhere!" and "boats are stuck in ice!" therefore "there is no global warming" talking point popping up everywhere. But, knowing what little I do about climate science, isn't this exactly what climate change scientists believe(d) would/will happen? The ice melts, the cold air from the ice goes somewhere and then creates crazy fronts, tons of snow and general weather lunacy like what we're currently witnessing? Have I got that about right or am I just brainwashed by the liberal media? Because this weather seems perfectly in line with the stuff I've read and seen on the topic. Also, do you guys think it's time to start a new thread yet or are we OK for now?
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Honestly Republicans have made such a mess of the matter socially I threw my hands up a long time ago and decided to just be content with "Vast majority of scientests say it's happening, and if you think the only thing that happens when global temperatures rise is that it anecdotally gets kinda hotter only in summer you can tell it walking". It's easier to explain the concept of anecdotal evidence and then try and move into average temperatures if you're talking with someone whos is engaging honestly.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Honestly Republicans have made such a mess of the matter socially I threw my hands up a long time ago and decided to just be content with "Vast majority of scientests say it's happening, and if you think the only thing that happens when global temperatures rise is that it anecdotally gets kinda hotter only in summer you can tell it walking". I just say "I don't ever plan on having kids so it's not my grandchildren who will suffer for it." This at least kills the topic.
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BiggerBoat posted:Yeah. You're not poor, you have a fridge = global warming isn't real, there's ice
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happyhippy posted:Nah, they see him through the window, hes 'acting' like a zombie, just sitting there thinking, and they shoot him. Dr. Pretorious does get decapitated before the opening credits. "It ate him.... bit off his head... like a ginger bread man...."
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BiggerBoat posted:So I wasn't disappointed today regarding the "Jesus Christ! It's freezing everywhere!" and "boats are stuck in ice!" therefore "there is no global warming" talking point popping up everywhere. But, knowing what little I do about climate science, isn't this exactly what climate change scientists believe(d) would/will happen? The ice melts, the cold air from the ice goes somewhere and then creates crazy fronts, tons of snow and general weather lunacy like what we're currently witnessing? As the climate destabilizes, caused by human behaviour, we can expect to see more extreme weather patterns and events more frequently. That's the most global and general way to put the scientific consensus.
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SedanChair posted:You're not poor, you have a fridge = global warming isn't real, there's ice Dana Gould had a good tweet about it: "Saying there's no such thing as climate change because it's cold is like saying there's no such thing as cows because you're out of milk."
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Just take comfort that these idiots won't have much to say when summer temps hit near-record levels this year (again).
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Yes, talk radio today was full of 'because there's recorded breaking cold for a few days in a limited part of the world global warming is a hoax' going on. Made me want to call into Rush or Cain and ask, 'so if someone signs up for Obamacare and/or their insurance rates go down does that mean Obamadontcare is a hoax?' Funny moment of talk radio for me today touched on both those topics. During Herman Cain's 'Rapid Fire' segment a caller phoned in initially to bitch about global warming but then switched gears to Obamacare. Caller said that government should stay out of healthcare with one exception - cost.  This was said with no trace of irony. Caller than proceeded to bitch about how expensive some procedure was for his dad.
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Rip Testes posted:Funny moment of talk radio for me today touched on both those topics. During Herman Cain's 'Rapid Fire' segment a caller phoned in initially to bitch about global warming but then switched gears to Obamacare. Caller said that government should stay out of healthcare with one exception - cost. Reminds me of this article I read yesterday: quote:To understand Kentucky's conflicted relationship with the federal government, 50 years after hosting President Johnson's launch of the "War on Poverty," is to meet Terry Rupe. The 63-year-old widower can't remember the last time he voted for a Democrat, and he's got nothing nice to say about President Obama. He's also never had health insurance, although he started working at age 9. Since his wife's death four years ago, he's been taking care of their 40-year-old, severely disabled daughter full time. She gets Medicaid and Medicare assistance.
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beatlegs posted:Reminds me of this article I read yesterday: How do people like this exist.
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Shoebat, literally claiming blood libel against Muslims:quote:A nun in Germany has recently done a presentation in a conference of an independent investigation she conducted of the treatment of Christians in Syria under the hands of Muslim fundamentalists. She revealed that Muslims are butchering Christians, draining their blood in bottles, and selling each bottle for $100,000 to Muslims in Saudi Arabia who take it to wash their hands in Christian blood, with the belief that it atones for their sins. http://shoebat.com/2013/12/26/muslims-kills-christians-bottle-blood-sell-100000-piece-saudis/
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mr. mephistopheles posted:How do people like this exist. When Mexicans, blacks etc recieve gov't assistance it's socialism, when "real Americans" receive it it's totally cool.
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beatlegs posted:Reminds me of this article I read yesterday: I wish I was a better person and my pity wasn't so quickly overwhelmed with spite. For another useless anecdote the biggest tea party advocate I know survives entirely on disability checks from the government for her downs syndrome son and she's an absolutely toxic person. gently caress her.
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beatlegs posted:When Mexicans, blacks etc recieve gov't assistance it's socialism, when "real Americans" receive it it's totally cool. No but it's not even that he doesn't call it socialism, it's that he literally believes that the government does nothing for him when they're his sole source of income. How.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:No but it's not even that he doesn't call it socialism, it's that he literally believes that the government does nothing for him when they're his sole source of income. How. Keep your government hands off my Medicare!
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AShamefulDisplay posted:Shoebat, literally claiming blood libel against Muslims: Is it bad if I say that the nun looks like Shoebat himself in a habit?
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Is this Walid Shoebat guy for real? Never knew about him.
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SnakePlissken posted:Is this Walid Shoebat guy for real? Never knew about him. Well, he is real flesh and blood. Everything about his claims about his life are verifiable bullshit though. But hey, dude found a way to fleece money from a ton of Islamophobic assholes, so I guess he isnt all bad. 
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Breaking news: Rich white man depressed by perceived loss of privilege, cries into his wine glass as he hides out in his multimillion dollar mansion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHBTGxwTqr0
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mr. mephistopheles posted:No but it's not even that he doesn't call it socialism, it's that he literally believes that the government does nothing for him when they're his sole source of income. How. That and when he does acknowledge he gets assistance, he immediately assumes that minorities get more of it because he always hears about all the Cadillacs they can buy that he can't.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:No Glenn Beck conversation is complete without Holy poo poo! Is Glenn Beck that, uhhh, overt when he is being overtly racist? Because holy poo poo.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:That and when he does acknowledge he gets assistance, he immediately assumes that minorities get more of it because he always hears about all the Cadillacs they can buy that he can't. That's a way to deal with getting assistance. "I may get some assistance but I really earned it and minorities don't deserve and get more get more of it." It's how he compensates for getting government assistance and how he can sleep at night.
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I can't tell if this is plain ol' sour grapes, some weird lesbian crush manifesting itself through punditry, or just NRO being NRO, but good grief: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/367610/rachels-show-eliana-johnson quote:MSNBC, the left-leaning cable-news network, has settled on one solution to its recent problems. It now has an executive reviewing scripts before they go on the air. The role, which has fallen to Rich Stockwell, a former executive producer of The Ed Show and Countdown with Keith Olbermann who now oversees special projects at the network, was created as several of the network’s hosts have, to the embarrassment of network brass, conducted a master class in political incorrectness. In recent months, Alec Baldwin, Martin Bashir, and, most recently, Melissa Harris-Perry have awkwardly crashed into the trinity of sexual orientation, gender, and race, leading many to wonder if there are any adults in charge at MSNBC. quote:Sources say it is Maddow rather than Phil Griffin who provides MSNBC’s editorial direction, and that she also holds considerable sway over personnel decisions. “I know I’m never going to get freakin’ talking points from Phil,” Maddow told The New Yorker last year. “Can you imagine? Like, what would they be?” quote:Maddow, by contrast, is motivated by ideology. “If you debate for a living, you’re going to lose sometimes. Sometimes your preconceptions are wrong — that has never happened to her one time,” says a former colleague. “She is actually not that interested in reality; she is the most ideological person I’ve ever met. That is not somebody you want in charge of your programming, because she might put on a great show, but she cannot make rational decisions — her agenda is changing America. . . . She really thinks she is changing America for the better. You can’t have somebody like that in charge of your programming.” quote:So will this series of embarrassing public incidents induce NBC to make a change at the top at MSNBC and impose more discipline? Or will it allow Maddow’s ideological preferences to continue to define the channel?
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So there's a popular woman news person at a cable TV news station and she's a primary driving force behind the success of the station. "That bitch!" Keep it classy NRO.
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