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Yiggy posted:The person in line near me that seemed the most up-to-date on his info seemed convinced that suppliers will never feel any pressure to lower prices They will once a competitor realizes they can undercut everyone else in town by charging less, but probably that will have to wait until everyone is reasonably sure that the DEA isn't gonna arrest every legal weed store in Colorado or whatever. Edit: I guess you can't arrest a store but whatever showbiz_liz fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jan 8, 2014 |
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showbiz_liz posted:They will once a competitor realizes they can undercut everyone else in town by charging less, but probably that will have to wait until everyone is reasonably sure that the DEA isn't gonna arrest every legal weed store in Colorado or whatever. Yeah, we really need to table the pricing discussion until late spring when the emergency yields are hitting shelves and general paranoia has receded a bit.
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Yiggy posted:I think a question that remains is whether they'll boost supply enough for the price to ever fall any, or if it'll hold steady either due to slow increase in taxes or just sticky prices in general. After years of shopping around in Austin, the price I was able to get on 1/1/14 was only ~$5.00 worse for a quarter of flower that was way better than anything I'd ever been able to find at that price point. I'm not complaining, but surely that price can come down. The person in line near me that seemed the most up-to-date on his info seemed convinced that suppliers will never feel any pressure to lower prices, but I feel like over time, onerous or not, more people will go through the process of obtaining retail licenses and competition has to kick in at some point.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Its legal now. And its barely been a week. Give it time. All i hope for is that weed stores dont become fronts. It would seriously damage the movement and give a lot of rhetoric for the opposing side to keep repeating. There is no way that any of the CO retailers currently would risk their license to deal on the side or whatever. Once profit margins thin out, that may change, but for now you needn't worry. As for people waiting, people who smoked pot before it was legal will continue to smoke if the legal source drys up and there is another source available. It's fine. Black Markets exist because of inefficiencies in the market, the primary driver is lack of supply. Once the legal supply meets demand, the next driver will be price and I don't think people are too upset about the pricing right now and it's only going to go down. Black Markets are not really a problem because once they don't have a reason to exist anymore they won't.
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There is no supply problem, there is not a single shop that is out of anything in the entire state. I don't know where this silly piece of media fiction came from but it's completely false.
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Pryor on Fire posted:There is no supply problem, there is not a single shop that is out of anything in the entire state. I don't know where this silly piece of media fiction came from but it's completely false. Some people were turned away when they hit up a retail store on day 1, so therefore there must be crushing under-supply.
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Pryor on Fire posted:There is no supply problem, there is not a single shop that is out of anything in the entire state. I don't know where this silly piece of media fiction came from but it's completely false. Regardless, we can't really talk about price discovery until supply and demand are a little more comparable. And it's good to hear that stores are still stocked. *clicks on Priceline.com*
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Powercrazy posted:There is no way that any of the CO retailers currently would risk their license to deal on the side or whatever. Once profit margins thin out, that may change, but for now you needn't worry.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Each plant is tagged with an RFID tag and the plant matter is accounted for from seed to bud with barcodes. NOTICE: ALL POT SHOPS WILL BE SUBJECT TO RANDOM GENE SEQUENCING. IF THE GENES PRESENT IN YOUR BUDS DON'T MATCH THE GENOTYPE LISTED IN THEIR TAG YOU WILL BE FINED $50000 AND HAVE YOUR POT LICENSE REVOKED. Jeffrey of YOSPOS fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jan 8, 2014 |
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Jeffrey posted:I'm glad that we as a society have decided this is worth spending money on. It's more to track yields, I doubt they care about strains.
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TheManWithNoName posted:It's more to track yields, I doubt they care about strains. Ahh the two sentences next to each other lead me to assume that that was a legal requirement as part of the 80% rule, this makes a lot more sense.
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Yeah if 600 pounds leaves your farm and only 400 show up at your stated retail and medical purchasers - cops going to be interested in what the other 200 did.
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The money train keeps on a-rollin'...HuffPo posted:Colorado Recreational Marijuana Sales Exceed $5 Million In First Week Source
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Nice find Soul, please sir let that be the sound of dominoes and Eek-A-Mouse across this beleaguered nation.
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Here is a good story from a humboldt county weekly paper on legalization in Washington and its effects on the economy here. [url] http://www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/this-is-what-legalization-looks-like/Content?oid=2463723[/url]
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TheRamblingSoul posted:The money train keeps on a-rollin'... Is there some sort of law requiring every article about marijuana to contain at least one stupid pun? "A lot of green" my rear end.
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showbiz_liz posted:Is there some sort of law requiring every article about marijuana to contain at least one stupid pun? "A lot of green" my rear end. Until weed becomes a normal everyday thing like coffee instead of a stigmatized Other-ized drug, then yes. [e]: If this was about coffee legalization, you bet your rear end you'd have X-teenth articles about coffee entrepreneurs starting from the "grounds" up.
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Does anyone know who in congress is pro-legalization?
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Putting stupid puns in headlines and lead ins to articles is like one of the few pleasures an editor gets you guys.
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TheRamblingSoul posted:The money train keeps on a-rollin'... $70m isn't a small amount of money, but keep in mind CO's budget is $20b. Not that it won't influence policy decisions, but I don't know how much of a difference 0.35% of the budget is going to make for other states considering legalization - especially since CO is likely to see the most revenue from being first. If/when the floodgates open, there's not going to be any gains from tourism really and revenue may very well decrease as prices come down.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:$70m isn't a small amount of money, but keep in mind CO's budget is $20b. Not that it won't influence policy decisions, but I don't know how much of a difference 0.35% of the budget is going to make for other states considering legalization - especially since CO is likely to see the most revenue from being first. If/when the floodgates open, there's not going to be any gains from tourism really and revenue may very well decrease as prices come down. Hey, at least it's $70 mil in new money for the state as opposed to zero from the black market.
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showbiz_liz posted:Is there some sort of law requiring every article about marijuana to contain at least one stupid pun? "A lot of green" my rear end. This has been due for at least the last 30 years.
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edit: nm I misread the article
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:$70m isn't a small amount of money, but keep in mind CO's budget is $20b. Not that it won't influence policy decisions, but I don't know how much of a difference 0.35% of the budget is going to make for other states considering legalization - especially since CO is likely to see the most revenue from being first. If/when the floodgates open, there's not going to be any gains from tourism really and revenue may very well decrease as prices come down.
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How much does the state save by not incarcerating non-violent offenders?
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Let's be realistic here: how much money and property were police departments seizing for themselves when they busted people for having marijuana?
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So did medical marijuana basically disappear overnight in CO and WA? Did those dispensaries just increase inventory and retool as regular pot stores? I'm trying to envision the Phillip Morris ad campaigns, the TV commercials for pot with smiling yuppies out for a night on the town, brosephs watching the football game etc. Will they be able to blaze one on the commercial or will they just be holding unlit joints like a dork? Will we have Martha Stewart Rosemary Hash Brownie recipies in magazines and on cooking shows? Oh Brave New World!
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Zwabu posted:So did medical marijuana basically disappear overnight in CO and WA? Did those dispensaries just increase inventory and retool as regular pot stores? It's going to be fun to have people complain about how all of this mainstream weed ruined the culture. It'll almost be as funny as watching people now complain about taxes on weed after campaigning that weed would pay for itself in taxes if legalized.
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Zwabu posted:So did medical marijuana basically disappear overnight in CO and WA? Did those dispensaries just increase inventory and retool as regular pot stores? Absolutely not. Only a few of them even opened up retail sales. Many of them believe they'll either be safer against being a DEA target than a retail or medical/retail store. Others think they'll be able to continue to get business from people who simply won't ever bother to come into a regular retail store. And a few seem to think that eventually medical weed will be covered by insurance, and that insurance companies would prefer to pay out to a medical store rather than a retail store.
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Zwabu posted:So did medical marijuana basically disappear overnight in CO and WA? Did those dispensaries just increase inventory and retool as regular pot stores? No, most of the dispensaries didn't go though the process of retail licensing. So in Denver most of the dispensaries were actually for people with medical card only, and so they didn't experience lines or congestion really. Some smaller markets had some medical but no retail dispensaries. They're still on the same business model supplied by the same medical growers. Over time you might start seeing more and more go retail, but at that point retail supply will probably be established and it won't matter much.
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showbiz_liz posted:Is there some sort of law requiring every article about marijuana to contain at least one stupid pun? "A lot of green" my rear end. They should just get it all out of their system at once.
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From the Washington Times comes this gem:quote:activists are totally uneducated about the severe consequences of smoking pot.
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KingEup posted:From the Washington Times comes this gem: As an aside, what's happening with the Washington Times now that Sun Myung Moon died? I was under the impressions that the paper lost millions a year and was propped solely as a personal mouthpiece of the moonies.
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Dusseldorf posted:As an aside, what's happening with the Washington Times now that Sun Myung Moon died? I was under the impressions that the paper lost millions a year and was propped solely as a personal mouthpiece of the moonies. Well that was in 2012 and his church seems to keep it going? They actually launched their own Fox News clone tv network in the summer of 2013 even, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News
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KingEup posted:From the Washington Times comes this gem: This girl needs to get high. VVVVV---Wasn't Nancy Grace saying the same poo poo? BottledBodhisvata fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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KingEup posted:From the Washington Times comes this gem: There was a similar piece of tripe on the Dallas Morning News yesterday that basically amounted to "poor blacks will just spend their money on getting high if it's legal!".
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"The body can process alcohol, and in many studies, a few drinks have been proven to have health benefits. Marijuana, on the other hand, is simply a toxin." 1. What 2. Alcohol is processed by the liver specifically because it is a toxin 3. What
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"Toxin" is my favorite nonsense word ever. There are entire industries dedicated to cleaning out all of your "toxins" and they're all bullshit. We know what things are toxic to humans and we put big giant warning labels on those things so that people don't consume them. It's very clever, it's not exactly saying "toxic" because obviously anyone claiming weed is toxic is just flat out wrong. But "toxin" is vague and using it contributes to FUD quite nicely.
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WampaLord posted:"Toxin" is my favorite nonsense word ever. There are entire industries dedicated to cleaning out all of your "toxins" and they're all bullshit. We know what things are toxic to humans and we put big giant warning labels on those things so that people don't consume them. Whenever you see someone using toxin and toxic who isn't a scientist, first try replacing every use of "toxin" with "demon" and "toxic" with "demonic" and see if what they said makes more sense then.
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