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Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

The Taint Reaper posted:

It's never going to be released is it?

Maybe not this year.

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The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Crosspeice posted:

Maybe not this year.

Friends are literally being held hostage and the kidnappers are too incompetent to take the money.

buddychrist10
Nov 4, 2009

Obtuse.....even hokey.

Militree posted:

Okay, I need some serious VCG critique.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2014-76696621
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2014-76697603
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2014-76698462

Is my team awful, or am I just very bad at using it? Maybe both?

e: other than me volt switching on a ground pokemon.

Yeah, as Agent Rush mentioned, something to deal with Grass types would be good. Something with Hurricane could fill that niche nicely say Tornadus or Noivern perhaps? Also, you might want a strong rock attack to help deal with Sun and Hail teams.

Haschel Cedricson
Jan 4, 2006

Brinkmanship

Unbound posted:

Depending on the circumstance, I like leading with Sableye the most. He can stop most Baton Pass users in there tracks with Taunt, generally forcing a switch-out into my WoW on turn 2.

I usually lead with a similar Sableye, but I replaced Foul Play with Knock Off.

Gnarly Bae Jepsen
Jul 12, 2007

Manic Pixie Dick Girl

dude789 posted:

Yeah, as Agent Rush mentioned, something to deal with Grass types would be good. Something with Hurricane could fill that niche nicely say Tornadus or Noivern perhaps? Also, you might want a strong rock attack to help deal with Sun and Hail teams.

Manectric has Flamethrower. Tornadus isn't legal, but Noivern is a good choice.

I think my main issue is I need less stuff that completely relies on rain. I need a lot more backup options.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
Why don't you have Goodra run sap sipper rather than hydration? Then it can bulk up on grass types and you won't be running another rain set.

Though honestly, grass is a very uncommon type in VGC. The only ones that appear regularly are Venasaur and Amoonguss, and Amoonguss isn't there for the grass moves but just spamming spore. A grass weakness isn't a big deal, and if your team can deal well with other threats I wouldn't consider it a big flaw for VGC.

Agent Rush
Aug 30, 2008

You looked, Junker!
I'm liking this team a lot after a few tweaks:

TaToBa (Mienshao) (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Stone Edge
- Fake Out
- Quick Guard

SaGoZo (Diggersby) (M) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 100 Def / 100 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Return
- Protect
- Rock Slide

PuToTyra (Pinsir) (M) @ Pinsirite
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Return
- Feint
- Protect
- Close Combat

RaToraTa (Gothitelle) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 100 SDef
Bold Nature
- Psychic
- Taunt
- Thunderbolt
- Protect

ShaUTa (Rotom-Wash) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 40 SAtk / 60 SDef
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Protect

BuraKaWani (Cryogonal) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Freeze-Dry
- Protect
- Icy Wind
- Ice Shard

Gothitelle and Cryogonal are great at disrupting other pokemon, with Diggersby and Rotom-W making for good bulky support damage. Mienshao and Pinsir are the all-out assault, with Quick Guard for anti-priority tech.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Agent Rush posted:


Life goes on everything's coming up OOO

I was going to complain that PuToTyra doesn't work for Pinsir but then I remembered PuToTrya's insert song title. Yeah, MegaPinsir is basically Power to Tearer. I approve.

Other than that the only make issues I see are a huge issue with no coverage to anything like Scizor or Ferrothorn.

Also Please run Quick Attack on Mega Pinisr. The power it packs plus the priority makes it invaluable.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Also Please run Quick Attack on Mega Pinisr. The power it packs plus the priority makes it invaluable.

Feint has 10 less BP but has +2 priority and pierces Protect, which is absolutely insane for doubles. QA is fine for singles but the utility of Feint in doubles is way better. So no, don't run QA on M-Pinsir in doubles. In fact I'd say the set he has now is the ideal M-Pinsir set.

Agent Rush
Aug 30, 2008

You looked, Junker!

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

I was going to complain that PuToTyra doesn't work for Pinsir but then I remembered PuToTrya's insert song title. Yeah, MegaPinsir is basically Power to Tearer. I approve.

Other than that the only make issues I see are a huge issue with no coverage to anything like Scizor or Ferrothorn.

Also Please run Quick Attack on Mega Pinisr. The power it packs plus the priority makes it invaluable.

I've got fighting for Ferrothorn, but I haven't seen a lot of Scizor in VGC for some reason. I probably should have looked for a Fire-type to fit in, but it'll have to be next round.

Feint is the priority attack of choice for Mega-Pinsir in Doubles, it's +2 to beat out Pranksters and Talonflame and lifts the effects of Protect. The 10 less BP is a more than fair trade.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream
Huh, did not realize it was a doubles team. Then yeah it's a much better set than what I was talking about.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
Overprediction sometimes bites you in the rear end.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2014-76788796

This guy switched a lot when he would of been better off going with what he already had out. On my end I overannalyzed his play and thought his Mawlie actually didn't have sucker punch because surely he would of used it by now if it did, right?!?

EDIT: I played against a Malamar that actually managed to get substantial boosts!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2014-76802411

It still didn't do anything.

Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jan 11, 2014

Agent Rush
Aug 30, 2008

You looked, Junker!
I'm torn between Mega Gengar and Mega Pinsir for my VGC team. Both do fairly well in most situations, it's just that sometimes I run into a team where the one I don't have would be perfect.

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Agent Rush posted:

I'm torn between Mega Gengar and Mega Pinsir for my VGC team. Both do fairly well in most situations, it's just that sometimes I run into a team where the one I don't have would be perfect.
You could do both. Give them both megastones, assess the situation and pick one to mega evolve.

EDIT: What do you want Mega Gengar for? His ability or his stats?

Nihilarian fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jan 12, 2014

Agent Rush
Aug 30, 2008

You looked, Junker!

Nihilarian posted:

You could do both. Give them both megastones, assess the situation and pick one to mega evolve.

EDIT: What do you want Mega Gengar for? His ability or his stats?

The stats, mostly that monstrous Special Attack. I have Gothitelle for Shadow Tag. It's the team I posted earlier on the page, I'm not sure who to cut out to use both.

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Agent Rush posted:

The stats, mostly that monstrous Special Attack. I have Gothitelle for Shadow Tag. It's the team I posted earlier on the page, I'm not sure who to cut out to use both.
As strong as Mega Gengar is, regular Gengar is very competitive with him. If you already have Shadow Tag I'd say you should just use Mega Pinsir and Regular Gengar.

Inudeku
Jul 13, 2008
It's worth bluffing a megastone and running specs. Specgar hits obscenely hard.

Agent Rush
Aug 30, 2008

You looked, Junker!

Nihilarian posted:

As strong as Mega Gengar is, regular Gengar is very competitive with him. If you already have Shadow Tag I'd say you should just use Mega Pinsir and Regular Gengar.

I tried that before and got wrecked pretty mightily, though that was before I made some other tweaks to the team so maybe it'll work out better now. Does Black Sludge still make a good hold item, or would something else be better?

EDIT:

Inudeku posted:

It's worth bluffing a megastone and running specs. Specgar hits obscenely hard.

I'm not sure how effectively I could bluff with Pinsir on the team.

Agent Rush fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jan 12, 2014

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Agent Rush posted:

I tried that before and got wrecked pretty mightily, though that was before I made some other tweaks to the team so maybe it'll work out better now. Does Black Sludge still make a good hold item, or would something else be better?
Gengar's a glass cannon. You're better off making him faster or making him hit harder.

BattleCake
Mar 12, 2012

Agent Rush posted:

I tried that before and got wrecked pretty mightily, though that was before I made some other tweaks to the team so maybe it'll work out better now. Does Black Sludge still make a good hold item, or would something else be better?

EDIT:


I'm not sure how effectively I could bluff with Pinsir on the team.

It's good if you're running a sub Gengar but otherwise it's probably bad.

Inudeku
Jul 13, 2008

Agent Rush posted:

I tried that before and got wrecked pretty mightily, though that was before I made some other tweaks to the team so maybe it'll work out better now. Does Black Sludge still make a good hold item, or would something else be better?

EDIT:


I'm not sure how effectively I could bluff with Pinsir on the team.

That's where the fun is. They have no idea.

Agent Rush
Aug 30, 2008

You looked, Junker!

BattleCake posted:

It's good if you're running a sub Gengar but otherwise it's probably bad.

I am, I'm not sure how you could run anything else with Sucker Punch running rampant.

BattleCake
Mar 12, 2012

Agent Rush posted:

I am, I'm not sure how you could run anything else with Sucker Punch running rampant.

I was thinking of running a 3 attack + destiny bond Gengar since everyone expects people to use subdisable Gengar. Hopefully this means they won't even attempt sucker punch :v:

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-76832240

This was a fun and memorable fight for me. I love the idea of drifblim as a disposable baton passer that can still contribute by destiny bonding someone down the road.

There were several very close calls this game. Goofus and Gallant both performed admirably.



http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-76857123

edit: another big turnaround, I got greedy pumping up early in the game and then unlucky against a swagkey but goofus puts in a valiant effort.

Ignite Memories fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jan 12, 2014

Night Blade
Feb 25, 2013

Down To The Wire! Mega Medicham's Ultimate Trump Card!!!

XH2G-WWWW-WWW4-HW9K

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism
Cross posting from the trading thread but if anyone could spare a few minutes and help me evolve a Haunter I'd really appreciate it.

4527-8353-5981
IGN: Josh

Agent Rush
Aug 30, 2008

You looked, Junker!

Starsnostars posted:

Cross posting from the trading thread but if anyone could spare a few minutes and help me evolve a Haunter I'd really appreciate it.

4527-8353-5981
IGN: Josh

I can if you're on now. I've added you.

FC is 2621-2782-4383
IGN: Camille

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism
Thank you but I managed to get it done in the trading thread.

Paul.Power
Feb 7, 2009

The three roles of APCs:
Transports.
Supply trucks.
Distractions.

Beat the Elite Four for my first ever time (since Y's been my first Pokemon game). Sorry if this is kinda late compared with everyone else's Hall of Fame shots :blush::



Gladys the Greninja (Lv. 76) - a glass cannon speed freak, but one hell of a glass cannon speed freak, Bubbling, Water Pulsing, Water Shurikening and Surfing her way through everything in her path (the overlevelling certainly helped). Took down Malva's team with four Surfs and no counterattacks.
Ethel the Talonflame (Lv. 75) - caught a neat little robin thingy right near the start, decided she had character (what with "Ethel's Big Pecks" and all), discovered that she became a Fire type after evolving :getin:. Another glass cannon speed freak, which brings us on to:
Quentin the Venusaur (Lv. 73) - someone's gotta tank the hits when Gladys or Ethel can't just smash through everything, and Quentin fitted into this roll beautifully. Especially after getting the Mega Ring and all the extra type immunities his mega evolution provided.
Ed the Beedrill (Lv. 70) - I know, I know, he's a Beedrill, I took a Beedrill to the Pokemon League. Mostly along for the ride for the Elite Four, but a key pokemon-catching component of the team with False Swipe so I couldn't bring myself to leave him out.
Douglas the Dugtrio (Lv. 64) - Got into the team as a specialist for Lumiose Gym, liked him so much that I thought I'd keep him in the A team. Discovered he works really well teamed up with Ethel in doubles battles, given flying's whole immunity-to-Earthquake thing.
Dorothy the Florges (Lv. 60) - Brought in specially for dealing with Drasna, she also managed to survive against Mega Gardevoir where Gladys and Ed got one-shotted, and ultimately delivered the final blow.

Aaand that's probably too much written about them. But hey, they did a good job of it and I'm proud of 'em :).

Red Herring
Apr 3, 2010
For evaluation:

VGC Team

Aromatisse @ Leftovers
Ability: Aroma Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Dazzling Gleam
- Thunderbolt
- Protect
- Trick Room

Clawitzer @ Life Orb
Ability: Mega Launcher
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Water Pulse
- Aura Sphere
- Dark Pulse
- Protect

Escavalier @ Occa Berry
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
- Iron Head
- Megahorn
- Drill Run
- Quick Guard

Chandelure @ Focus Sash
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Shadow Ball
- Heat Wave
- Trick Room
- Protect

Amoonguss @ Big Root
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Quiet Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Rage Powder
- Spore

Tyranitar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Crunch
- Flamethrower

Tambaloneus
Feb 5, 2007

I miss my cat someone buy me a kitten.

Heh awesome! Yeh that little tiny birdy starts out soo innocent doesn't it. I had also never played pokemon so I was kinda suprised when it turns into this great monster of a hawk. I've still got my 'Boid' he is my tank when I use the restaurant to level up lower leveled critters for the dex. (first one I caught too, other than the starter)

I'm also kind of tempted to everstone a bunch of babbeh critters up to level 100 and battle those, I'd lose like a chump but it'd be funny as heck. Only thing I'm worried about is annoying people by being such an easy target. I don't want to play competitively for real serious it's way too much effort I only really play in my lunch hour at work. Don't care about ivs or movesets or anything really.

I'm working on a level 100 torchic called 'Tweety' :3

smertrioslol
Apr 4, 2010
Thanks to everyone who has added me so far :3:. I gotta just wake up early now to make sure I'm on at the same time as some of y'all, since I'm in a strange time zone right now.

If there's anyone else who happens to be around at this particular moontime, FC: 5043 - 2740 - 2462 IGN: Chris

I'm almost done setting up my team and I'd like to battle some goons sometime! Though I might have to wait until I'm back in the states :smith:.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
just make sure to add us as well. I think I had you and one other person greyed in my friends list. It doesn't seem like someone entering your FC prompts or notifies you (or I just never noticed) which is pretty sad. Nintendo really needs to get in gear with this stuff. Their online ID systems feel like they are still lagging behind 5-6 year old XBL stuff.

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.
Anybody up here in Doswell for VGC?

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

Emalde posted:

Anybody up here in Doswell for VGC?

Will there be a stream for the event? AGDQ is almost done!

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.

Zoness posted:

Will there be a stream for the event? AGDQ is almost done!

I really doubt it, but we'll see when things open up.

buddychrist10
Nov 4, 2009

Obtuse.....even hokey.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogondoubles-76936474
My drunken rear end loses track of skill swap at the beginning but I still manage to get the win over the most generic OU doubles team on earth.

Diplomatic Immunity
Apr 12, 2006
The King
I just hopped into the Battle Institute for the first time, and wow was that a reality check. I can usually sweep through the Battle Mansion, but the double teams in the BI whooped my rear end. I really need to go finish Platinum and Black 2 and so I can transfer over some legendaries, which I've always hated playing with :(

smertrioslol
Apr 4, 2010

Evil Fluffy posted:

just make sure to add us as well. I think I had you and one other person greyed in my friends list. It doesn't seem like someone entering your FC prompts or notifies you (or I just never noticed) which is pretty sad. Nintendo really needs to get in gear with this stuff. Their online ID systems feel like they are still lagging behind 5-6 year old XBL stuff.

Apparently I lost platinum and can't see your post history, and sitting through the thread a bit I can't find your friend code :smith:

Could you repost your code?

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Red Metal
Oct 23, 2012

Let me tell you about Homestuck

Fun Shoe

smertrioslol posted:

Apparently I lost platinum and can't see your post history, and sitting through the thread a bit I can't find your friend code :smith:

Could you repost your code?

Press the question mark at the bottom left of Evil Fluffy's post.

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