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Boston has more people of Irish descent than any city in the world except Dublin. It outranks every other city in Ireland. Also, this is just a cool/surprising thing, but Irish population still doesn't even come close to what it was pre-famine. It might get back to those levels by 2050, maybe. Literally half the population died or emigrated, and that's a ton of people. It's not surprising it made for large communities of immigrants with enough force to keep ties alive.
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Shannonmcn posted:Spray tanning is not exclusively an American thing. I'd say at least 70% of girls who go out on the weekends here are using fake tan. My friend went to an all-girls school in Derry and has so many stories of girls topping up their tan between classes or skipping Friday to do their tan for that night or getting rained on and their sunshimmer runs down their legs and stains their white socks orange. It's a weird epidemic, probably caused by seeing everyone on TV with the Californian tan, whether from the US or not. Or watching Neighbours where everyone is orange. I was usually too lazy, now I embrace my paleness. Lol so it's as widespread as I thought because all her friends seemed ganguro levels of orange too but they were from somewhere in the midlands of England iirc and all dressed like sorostitutes.
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Jan 15, 2014 16:42
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I'm just a boring German/Polish/various other Eastern European countries mix, probably with a bit of Jewish thrown in. I spend a lot of time teaching people how to pronounce my last name, and telling them that yes, I was born in America. They always seem a little disappointed.
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Jan 15, 2014 16:56
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Anne Whateley posted:Boston has more people of Irish descent than any city in the world except Dublin. It outranks every other city in Ireland. They're not really of Irish descent though. They're Americans who drink Jamesons and wear a green hat on the 17th of March and brag about how their genes mean they can hold their liquor. If you weren't born here you aren't Irish. Coming from Belfast there was a long fight here so some of us would be allowed to call ourselves Irish. It stings a bit to see some pretty ridiculous caricatures of what those people think "being Irish" really is.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:01
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Hey Shannon, what would you call a drink where you take half pint of Guinness and drop a shot of baileys/Jameson into it?
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Shannonmcn posted:They're not really of Irish descent though. They're Americans who drink Jamesons and wear a green hat on the 17th of March and brag about how their genes mean they can hold their liquor. If you weren't born here you aren't Irish. Coming from Belfast there was a long fight here so some of us would be allowed to call ourselves Irish. It stings a bit to see some pretty ridiculous caricatures of what those people think "being Irish" really is.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:09
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Spanish Manlove posted:Hey Shannon, what would you call a drink where you take half pint of Guinness and drop a shot of baileys/Jameson into it? A loving travesty. Anne Whateley posted:I didn't say they're Irish, but they're definitely of Irish descent. Call them Irish-Americans or whatever, but especially in Boston the culture isn't just the same as any other American. It's the same deal where Italian-Americans are totally not authentically Italian, but they do have a distinct culture here.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:11
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Spanish Manlove posted:Lol so it's as widespread as I thought because all her friends seemed ganguro levels of orange too but they were from somewhere in the midlands of England iirc and all dressed like sorostitutes. There are parts of Dublin specifically known for being full of orange people with weird pseudo valley girl accents. Ireland doesn't get enough sun for white people to get tans like they see on tv, so tanning booths and cheap fake tanning products are really popular.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:20
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Shannonmcn posted:A loving travesty. Lol And Italian American culture already is a travesty.
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Enfys posted:There are parts of Dublin specifically known for being full of orange people with weird pseudo valley girl accents. Yeah I remember them being really fuckin territorial over which district people were from and would act dismissive towards people from other areas
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Jan 15, 2014 17:21
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Spanish Manlove posted:Yeah I remember them being really fuckin territorial over which district people were from and would act dismissive towards people from other areas D4 are the snobs. I think. I only know from a Dundalk friend who lives there now and is constantly complaining. Also look, my city is classed as a loving war zone, yaaaay!
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Jan 15, 2014 17:29
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I think bathroom sounds is exactly right that it's a family culture thing. Both sides of my family consider themselves of Irish descent. Catholic on my Mom's side and Protestant on my Father's. (yikes) And that's somehow a conception that's stuck around through a hundred plus years of American life and intermixing with other groups. We live in New Jersey were there isn't much ~Irish-American~ presence (Though plenty of people like to be "Irish-for-a-day" as an excuse to get drunk on St. Patrick's Day.) so I can't speak for Boston Irish. Over here it's more watered down, mostly in pride over where we've came from and a particular slant in choice of home decor. Also, at least where I live, there's still a pretty heavy conflation of 'where are you from' with 'where did your family come to American from' even though most (white) people have probably been in the area for at least three or four generations now. I got really interested in Gaelic mythology a while back and from there moved to reading up on Irish history. I'd like to visit some day if I was ever able to afford it. I wouldn't openly call myself Irish anymore though, having gotten into the history of it for the reasons Shannon stated. If nothing else, a lot has happened in Ireland since my distant ancestors fled.
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Here there isn't really an 'Italian-Australian' culture as far as I can tell. You're either Italian (your family speaks Italian, you do your regional culinary and cultural rituals with your family, you at least pretend to give a poo poo about the saints, etc) or you're just Aussie with a decent team to barrack for in the world cup. Maybe that's not entirely the case here but all my Italian friends have the same experiences as me, their families just come from different regions to mine. There's the expectation that you go back to Italy at some point and at regular intervals if you're able to and check in with the family who are still there and if you don't do that you're a piece of poo poo, and when you do go there it's like this huge homecoming where everyone in the stupid village or neighbourhood knows who you are and pinches the gently caress out of you and you eat all the seafood in the Mediterranean and get flat out drunk with a hangover that lasts for days (at least in Lipari).
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Jan 15, 2014 17:43
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AriadneThread posted:I'd like to visit some day if I was ever able to afford it. Don't, it's super boring here. Go to Rome or Prague or Amsterdam or somewhere instead.
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Shannonmcn posted:I do get a bit too wound up about it tbh but if all Italian Americans just got drunk off limoncello and raved about lasagne as the sum total expression of their culture it'd be viewed as a bit offensive. Irish-Americans will at least cry to "Danny Boy" year-round.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:45
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Visit Spain and give them your sweet sweet rich people money as the local governments desperately need more money to embezzle
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Shannonmcn posted:Don't, it's super boring here. Go to Rome or Prague or Amsterdam or somewhere instead. I feel the same way about the Jersey Shore, and yet people keep coming
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Jan 15, 2014 17:47
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literally the only reason to go to rome is to hang out with the street cats
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Jan 15, 2014 17:48
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first holiday i can afford to go on is to cuba tho. lol sorry wogs
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Jan 15, 2014 17:49
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One thing that infuriated me when I lived in Spain is that all the American girls would only go to the chintzy bars where everyone played beer pong and no one have a poo poo about doing local things like drinking wine or being unemployed.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:51
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If I went on vacation to Spain I'd probably be drunk on wine and cheese the entire time. I'd likely have very little memory of the trip.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:54
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Summer of 2012 I spent most of July drunk in a little bodega downing 75 centimo glasses of local sherry while reading books then walking around on the beach. In Seville they served wine in these little baby wine glasses and at least at the beach village bodega it was served in the normal tiny beer glasses.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:58
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I had the nicest Syrah of my life in this tiny little restaurant/ wine bar in Barcelona. I saved the cork and everything. I would like to go to Seville or Madrid to see if they are less touristy but I don't speak any Spanish and it makes me really self conscious.  If anyone does want to come to Ireland go to Cork or Waterford, it's lovely down there but don't expect much excitement.
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id love to do the pilgrimage to santiago de compostela one day. im not catholic anymore (i started converting to judaism when i was 14 through an orthodox synagogue, couldnt reconcile some aspects of orthodoxy with my politics so stopped and now just practice reform) but i still have a lot of fondness for a lot of the catholic pilgrimages as historical/cultural things. the women in my family particularly did a shitload of pilgrimages
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Can someone tell me why my Norwegian and German (mostly Prussian) roots disallow me from growing a badass beard? 
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Barcelona is the euro version of LA and isn't Spain compared to Grenada or Seville. Cool wine cocktails for you girls to try: Tinto de verano; cheap red wine mixed with a gaseola like casera Blanca (or club soda I guess). Or you can approx sangria with red wine with lemon and/or orange soda. Rebujito; dry sherry with 7-up. Typical feria drink and is way more potent than it tastes and is the only way I'll dance flamenco. Serve both cold an iced.
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Can someone tell me why my Norwegian and German (mostly Prussian) roots disallow me from growing a badass beard? beard appropriation that's right, sjw gone rogue hacked your genome.
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Can someone tell me why my Norwegian and German (mostly Prussian) roots disallow me from growing a badass beard? No idea, those are pretty beardy peoples.  Maybe it's the same reason that despite having white bread Anglo roots through and through, I'll look like a cavewoman if I go more than a day without shaving. 
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Spain is full of delicious goats and sausages and drinks but also plenty of crazy Catholic ideology and sexism and a more recent renewed extremist shift. But delicious food and drinks. Enfys fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jan 16, 2014 |
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spanish manlove what kind of spanish do you speak predominantly? i only have passable castellano and i'm going to cuba at the end of the year for a working holiday and cuban spanish is heavily canary-influenced. i was planning on practicing cuban spanish this year anyway but if you have any experience with the different languages i'd be interested in your wisdoms
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drat sjw's.  When I studied abroad in Austria I got laughed at for my patchiness. Talk about good wine country, though. And the glühwein at Christmastime... deelish.
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Fruity Gordo posted:spanish manlove what kind of spanish do you speak predominantly? com'on, it's right in the name
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Spanish Manlove posted:Barcelona is the euro version of LA and isn't Spain compared to Grenada or Seville. My friend made me the most disgusting 'wine cocktail' last week with merlot, Glenfiddich, vodka and soda water and a sugared glass then had me try and guess the ingredients. It was such a waste of all those things and she wasn't even drinking.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:22
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I'm a gat danged boy
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AriadneThread posted:com'on, it's right in the name
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Enfys posted:I think that's the first time I've heard Cork recommended to a tourist by a non-Cork native. Cork accents do strange warm things to my ladybits. And I had really nice seafood there.
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That DICK! posted:I'm a gat danged boy im sorry 4 ur lots
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Fruity Gordo posted:spanish manlove what kind of spanish do you speak predominantly? i only have passable castellano and i'm going to cuba at the end of the year for a working holiday and cuban spanish is heavily canary-influenced. i was planning on practicing cuban spanish this year anyway but if you have any experience with the different languages i'd be interested in your wisdoms They'll understand you pretty well though some vocabulary is different. I know Castilian is a little more rude compared to Latin America, at least in Florida I greatly offended a guy at a Cuban diner by saying "me pone un cafesito" instead of "me puede dar un cafesito" because I was use to the former. It should be te same in Cuba proper so mind your manners. Oh and Spain is still really sexist, but not as bad as it used to be. People no longer think of my mom as a mutant for not wanting to be locked in a kitchen 24/7 but it's still bad. I blame the moors.
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Shannonmcn posted:My friend made me the most disgusting 'wine cocktail' last week with merlot, Glenfiddich, vodka and soda water and a sugared glass then had me try and guess the ingredients. It was such a waste of all those things and she wasn't even drinking. Yeah that's overwrought and fuckin gross.
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Crow Jane posted:If I went on vacation to Spain I'd probably be drunk on wine and cheese the entire time. I'd likely have very little memory of the trip. Also I have read that sangria is considered the cocktail equivalent of pig slop that Spanish restaurateurs pawn off on unsuspecting tourists but jokes on them because that poo poo's delicious.
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