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quote:Design chief Ikuo Maeda and his team have developed a new and unique styling theme for both the MX-5 and its platform twin, the RX-7 coupé. The look is different from that used on Mazda’s hatches and saloons. Dunno if this was official before
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Bovril Delight posted:A 1100 kg Miata with ~200hp would be pretty entertaining I imagine. Why so low? I would want at least 250hp.
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Jan 16, 2014 04:44
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Cream_Filling posted:That's an unofficial rendering not a real design. I enjoy being idiotic, and living in fantasy leave me be! Now I know it will look nothing like that, maybe a good thing if I liked a render  Coredump posted:Why so low? I would want at least 250hp. Would 250 be a big improvement or incremental over what is in the CMY?
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Jan 16, 2014 04:45
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Coredump posted:Why so low? I would want at least 250hp. Good luck. I doubt it would be more than 200, if even that. The Miata isn't going to be an s2000 or m roadster.
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Jan 16, 2014 04:49
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Nonsense posted:I enjoy being idiotic, and living in fantasy leave me be! CMY?
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Jan 16, 2014 04:53
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Coredump posted:CMY? Current model year
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Jan 16, 2014 05:08
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pik_d posted:Current model year Ohhhhhh. Edmunds says the current Miata produces 167 hp so we're talking almost 100 more. That's around 67% more power by my back of the napkin figuring. Professional car types with more driving experience than me have said that the Miata's great chassis is held back by a lack of usable power and grunt.
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Jan 16, 2014 05:15
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Cream_Filling posted:That's an unofficial rendering not a real design. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the grille from the F-Type.
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Jan 16, 2014 05:18
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Held back from what? People who are after big power aren't going to be in the market for an MX5 whether it had 200 or 250hp
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Jan 16, 2014 05:19
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Coredump posted:Ohhhhhh. Edmunds says the current Miata produces 167 hp so we're talking almost 100 more. That's around 67% more power by my back of the napkin figuring. Professional car types with more driving experience than me have said that the Miata's great chassis is held back by a lack of usable power and grunt. That's what the ginormous Miata after market is for?
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Jan 16, 2014 05:28
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Cream_Filling posted:That's an unofficial rendering not a real design. I dunno, I kind of like the front-end-of-a-Maserati-gun-stapled-onto-the-back-of-an-S2000 look.
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Jan 16, 2014 05:40
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Aren't Miata turbo kits that put the HP up around/over 250 notorious for crapping up the handling? I know that's probably from, like, NA chassis data so it doesn't say much about ND or whatever this chassis code will be, but still.
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Jan 16, 2014 05:46
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Coredump posted:Ohhhhhh. Edmunds says the current Miata produces 167 hp so we're talking almost 100 more. That's around 67% more power by my back of the napkin figuring. Professional car types with more driving experience than me have said that the Miata's great chassis is held back by a lack of usable power and grunt. As mentioned, you aren't getting into a Miata for big power. You're getting a car that has enough power to be driven hard on the street without putting you into a tree sideways at 130mph. The old "slow car fast” thing, even the Miata isn't THAT slow, definitely holds true. If you want a great chassis with more power get an s2000. More power and a big lazy softop? Z4.
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Jan 16, 2014 06:10
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Snowdens Secret posted:Dunno if this was official before I thought it was vehemently confirmed as dead, and if that's the case it makes me seriously doubt the whole article. Snowdens Secret posted:Aren't Miata turbo kits that put the HP up around/over 250 notorious for crapping up the handling? I know that's probably from, like, NA chassis data so it doesn't say much about ND or whatever this chassis code will be, but still. I can't say I've ever heard this, or if someone has said this they're probably also a neckbeard too worried about which factory wheels weigh two ounces less than the rest to ever actually drive their car hard enough to notice.
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Jan 16, 2014 06:11
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Snowdens Secret posted:Dunno if this was official before Didn't they scuttle all rotary dev? Or is this that rotor-hybrid thing you keep hearing about? Edit: Found an article of a Mazda 2 EV with one rotor acting at its range extender. http://goo.gl/vuBTbW BabyMauler fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jan 16, 2014 |
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Jan 16, 2014 17:07
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BabyMauler posted:Didn't they scuttle all rotary dev? Or is this that rotor-hybrid thing you keep hearing about? I could have sworn that the imminent RX-7 was completely scrapped for now, along with rotary development. Or maybe they had the rolling chassis already designed and they're going to put LS3 crate motors in them from the factory this time around.
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Jan 16, 2014 17:15
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Bovril Delight posted:As mentioned, you aren't getting into a Miata for big power. You're getting a car that has enough power to be driven hard on the street without putting you into a tree sideways at 130mph. The old "slow car fast” thing, even the Miata isn't THAT slow, definitely holds true. If you want a great chassis with more power get an s2000. More power and a big lazy softop? Z4. Yeah because 250 hp will do all that. The Miata has been underpowered since the NB and Miata apologist fall over themselves making up reasons why its okay.
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Jan 17, 2014 01:26
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Bovril Delight posted:As mentioned, you aren't getting into a Miata for big power. You're getting a car that has enough power to be driven hard on the street without putting you into a tree sideways at 130mph. The old "slow car fast” thing, even the Miata isn't THAT slow, definitely holds true. If you want a great chassis with more power get an s2000. More power and a big lazy softop? Z4. I'd say nix on the Z4 and say get a Solstice GXP instead.
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Coredump posted:Yeah because 250 hp will do all that. The Miata has been underpowered since the NB and Miata apologist fall over themselves making up reasons why its okay. Why does it need an excuse? If you don't like it buy another car or put a loving turbo on it, some people act like the Miata is new or something. Driving slow cars fast since 1989 
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Jan 17, 2014 01:37
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Q_res posted:Since we're on the subject, have any of you looked into the transmission Honda is developing? It's an 8 speed DCT with a torque converter. Allison has a heavy truck automatic that does this. It's supposed to take out the drop in acceleration between shifting gears.
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Jan 17, 2014 02:43
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Bovril Delight posted:As mentioned, you aren't getting into a Miata for big power. You're getting a car that has enough power to be driven hard on the street without putting you into a tree sideways at 130mph. The old "slow car fast” thing, even the Miata isn't THAT slow, definitely holds true. If you want a great chassis with more power get an s2000. More power and a big lazy softop? Z4. I'd never get a Z3 or 4 over a Miata
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Jan 17, 2014 03:15
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They're pretty much the only truly bad cars that BMW have ever made, or at least since the Neue Klasse Edit: In the sense that they are neither attractive or competitive. I guess BMW had a lot of people who wanted a 3 Series convertible, but wanted it to be uglier and less practical. Sinestro fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jan 17, 2014 |
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Sinestro posted:They're pretty much the only truly bad cars that BMW have ever made, or at least since the Neue Klasse 323i?
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Sinestro posted:They're pretty much the only truly bad cars that BMW have ever made, or at least since the Neue Klasse Nah, the Z3 is a pretty cool car...as long as it isn't the 1.9; that one sucked I'll give you that much. Also, no matter how bad you think the Z3 was, nothing comes close to the first-gen X3 in terms of bad BMWs.
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MrChips posted:Nah, the Z3 is a pretty cool car...as long as it isn't the 1.9; that one sucked I'll give you that much. The X3 was competitive in the prestige-marque trophy "SUV" category. It objectively is worse than say, a Porsche Cayenne, but to that market the differences don't matter.
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Nodoze posted:I'd never get a Z3 or 4 over a Miata Well no, me either.
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Jan 17, 2014 06:24
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The X3 was never in the 'prestige' market - it was always just the cheaper and uglier alternative to the X5
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MrChips posted:Nah, the Z3 is a pretty cool car...as long as it isn't the 1.9; that one sucked I'll give you that much. I loved the idea of getting a Z3, but it ended there. Theres just no reason to ever buy one over a Miata or S2000 other than "it's a BMW and I want a BMW." You can spend a lot less and get a better car you can do a lot more to, is dead reliable and easy as dirt to maintain, or around the same to slightly more for a much better car that's dead reliable, easy as dirt to maintain, and that you can also do a lot more to. I don't think the Z3 is particularly great looking either, and the plastic rear window is gross.
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Sinestro posted:They're pretty much the only truly bad cars that BMW have ever made, or at least since the Neue Klasse I don't know anything about them, but the current z4 looks pretty sharp, as penis cars go.
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Jan 17, 2014 09:34
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All I see is a giant weasel.
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Jan 17, 2014 14:30
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How do y'all feel about the X1? My mom is currently driving a Cadillac SRX and is looking at going into an X1 sDrive 328. My dad currently has a 2009ish X5 that he loves for some reason. They don't like "getting down" into cars.
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I quite like the Z4, it's a nice balance between a sports car and a luxury car, and you can get them with a decent bit of poke. Bit expensive, though, and not entirely convinced by some of the stying touches.
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LTBS posted:How do y'all feel about the X1? The X3 is a squashed cheap looking X5 and the X1 takes that to the next level. I think the 3 series GT is better looking which is saying something.
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The one thing I will say in the Z3's favor is that, being designed for superior Aryan physiology, it is much more comfortable for a tall motherfucker like me to sit in than the Japanese alternatives. That is to say, physically possible. Still a bit awkward getting in and out, but there you are.
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LTBS posted:How do y'all feel about the X1? My mom is currently driving a Cadillac SRX and is looking at going into an X1 sDrive 328. My dad currently has a 2009ish X5 that he loves for some reason. My inlaws "impulse leased" an X1 after they loved the one they had as a rental in Europe. They showed up at a BMW dealership here one night to find out when the US model would arrive, and a salesman told them they had "just gotten their first one in" and it was ready to go (which turned out to be a load of crap). They leased it without even test driving it. Long story short, they don't like it. I don't know what engine the one they drove in Europe had (they don't know either), but it wasn't the 2.0t in theirs. The car doesn't have many options, and they still haven't figured out the radio. They're both smart people so I was surprised they bought it so quickly (without asking for my input), but I know they regret buying it so I don't say anything. I think they're just waiting out the end of the lease and driving their '10 Jetta Sportwagen TDI most of the time. It has more features and is more comfortable anyway. I've only driven the X1 once and it felt very numb. Plus, it's very small. I'm 5'9" and the backseat is very cramped even on short rides. The seats are stiff and don't seem to have become any softer after over a year of ownership. If your mom doesn't like "sitting down" into a car, she won't like the X1. It's not a high-riding CUV by any means, it's a hatchback disguised as one. DropShadow fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Jan 18, 2014 |
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dreesemonkey posted:Since they use it in the diesel, is it the first because it would typically be overkill for a gasoline engine? Well, the new F-150 will also offer a bunch of high-tech features not previously seen in pickup trucks (such as adaptive cruise control and LED headlights). So it looks like Ford is actually trying to make something more than an ordinary small truck. http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/174544-aluminum-body-2015-ford-f-150-pickup-sheds-700-pounds-adds-a-ton-of-driver-assist-technologies
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Toyota also started building full sized trucks that appealed to the US market and the American manufactures knew how that story ends and started updating. At least Ford seems to be doing that, IDK about GM and Dodge they're still kind of riding the 'murica' wave. That Chevy lost calf video makes me rage out because they do not say a goddamn thing about the truck and its all clearly pandering.
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Xguard86 posted:Toyota also started building full sized trucks that appealed to the US market and the American manufactures knew how that story ends and started updating. At least Ford seems to be doing that, IDK about GM and Dodge they're still kind of riding the 'murica' wave. That Chevy lost calf video makes me rage out because they do not say a goddamn thing about the truck and its all clearly pandering. Even worse, GM made commercials making GBS threads on useful features like dodge's heated steering wheel and ford's box steps. Now the 2014 GMCs have a box step in the bumper, and a heated steering wheel as an option. I fully expect some "but aluminum is fragile" and "8 speeds are too many!" commercials to come out of them until their own aluminum 1500 with a 9 speed auto is ready.
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Powershift posted:Even worse, GM made commercials making GBS threads on useful features like dodge's heated steering wheel and ford's box steps. Now the 2014 GMCs have a box step in the bumper, and a heated steering wheel as an option. or they'll just show a baby boomer getting up really early to do something rural. Something, ironically, you could probably do in almost any car on the road today.
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