|
Bloody Pom posted:So I just spent the weekend powering through the SEED remaster. It... wasn't as bad as I was expecting. I legitimately enjoyed most of it. If this is the one where it's kind of a retelling solely from the perspective of Athrun, it's... better. But not really that much better. It gives Athrun a few more scenes of him actually *doing stuff* like fighting the druggies before Impulse shows up at the very beginning.
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 05:54
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 09:38 |
|
|
Eej posted:If this is the one where it's kind of a retelling solely from the perspective of Athrun, it's... better. But not really that much better. It gives Athrun a few more scenes of him actually *doing stuff* like fighting the druggies before Impulse shows up at the very beginning. It really did help things a bit. I just think it's funny Fukuda and Morosawa say that Destiny is supposed to be from Athrun's prospective.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 05:55
|
|
|
Eej posted:If this is the one where it's kind of a retelling solely from the perspective of Athrun, it's... better. But not really that much better. It gives Athrun a few more scenes of him actually *doing stuff* like fighting the druggies before Impulse shows up at the very beginning. Nope, it's the remastered series that's nearing the end of its run. It's too late to turn back now, I've committed myself to suffering through it. 
Bloody Pom fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Jan 21, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 06:00
|
|
|
Bloody Pom posted:Nope, it's the remastered series that's nearing the end of its run. It's too late to turn back now, I've committed myself to suffering through it. It annoys me that they still haven't released a master grade savior, which is the one good thing I hoped would come out of the destiny hd release.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 06:12
|
|
|
SEED Destiny HD is still running ads of the MG SEED models, it's stupid.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 06:35
|
|
|
BlitzBlast posted:SEED Destiny HD is still running ads of the MG SEED models, it's stupid. On the subject of models, at least I have Build Fighters to soften the blow. That show is the breath of fresh air this franchise needed, and the fights are just pure giant robot porn.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 06:47
|
|
|
This week's episode especially. Easily second best fight of the series.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 06:51
|
|
|
I don't know, both the Zaku Amazing/Build Strike and the SD Knight/Bearguy III fight are just as good, if not better, if for different reasons in the case of the later. That's more a show of how good some of the fights are than a condemnation of this one though.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 07:04
|
|
|
Gammatron 64 posted:You know, the idea of a helicopter MS isn't a terrible one, it's just that the MS splits in half to form the vehicles, so if one half gets blown up, you're kind of screwed and can't form the MS anymore. That dates back to the ZZ Gundam, though. Well, the RX-78 would split apart too, but the core fighter was more of an escape mechanism rather than forming independent vehicles. Except when it did split into two separate vehicles. But the universal century is a revisionist history and there's no room for the G-Bull and G-Fighter.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 07:19
|
|
|
I'm telling you man the military has these half Gundam half plane things and one is a tank. Why won't you guys believe me? The G-Fighter is real! You can't suppress the truth.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 07:30
|
|
|
Ethiser posted:I'm telling you man the military has these half Gundam half plane things and one is a tank. Why won't you guys believe me? The G-Fighter is real! You can't suppress the truth. There's this Gundam that runs on water man! It has an air cooled reactor and it runs on water!
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 15:16
|
|
|
ManSeriesBrofist posted:
Oh God, the remaster looks so much worse. I can't stand Hirai faces and that's a big part of the reason why SEED is near unwatchable for me. Everybody in the show kinda looks like... well... their faces make them all look like they have down syndrome.  Erd posted:Except when it did split into two separate vehicles. But the universal century is a revisionist history and there's no room for the G-Bull and G-Fighter. Okay yeah, but they kind of got retconned, right? I'm actually not sure if the series or movies are canon, although they did have numbered Guncannons in a museum in Zeta, so I'm guessing its the movies.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 16:38
|
|
|
TARDISman posted:There's this Gundam that runs on water man! It has an air cooled reactor and it runs on water! There's thing Gundam, man, and like... instead of fighting it fires out these RAINBOWS and they make it so everyone understands each other and nobody fights anymore. The government is keeping it down though cuz they're being controlled by this space illuminati made of clones and robots... and robot clones!
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 16:42
|
|
|
Bloody Pom posted:Nope, it's the remastered series that's nearing the end of its run. It's too late to turn back now, I've committed myself to suffering through it. The most hilarious part is that Destiny HD is actually re-adding the retconned plot holes that the special editions removed, such as the Destiny running out of loving battery power.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 16:53
|
|
|
Gammatron 64 posted:Okay yeah, but they kind of got retconned, right? I'm actually not sure if the series or movies are canon, although they did have numbered Guncannons in a museum in Zeta, so I'm guessing its the movies. The real answer to "Which is canon?" is "It doesn't matter," since ultimately the outcomes are mostly the same, and both the TV series and movies are referenced, teased, and easter-egged.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 16:54
|
|
|
Popehoist posted:The most hilarious part is that Destiny HD is actually re-adding the retconned plot holes that the special editions removed, such as the Destiny running out of loving battery power. I think the most ridiculous thing about the SEED remasters is the "Han shot first" retcon of Nicol's death.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 17:00
|
|
|
Mecha Gojira posted:The real answer to "Which is canon?" is "It doesn't matter," since ultimately the outcomes are mostly the same, and both the TV series and movies are referenced, teased, and easter-egged. Yeah, they're pretty much the same except one has the G-Fighter, G-Bull and Gundam Hammer, and the other has core boosters. It's not like Zeta: A New Translation where they make any substantial storyline changes.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 17:03
|
|
|
Triggerhappypilot posted:I think the most ridiculous thing about the SEED remasters is the "Han shot first" retcon of Nicol's death. Didn't SEED HD also clearly show Kira not being responsible for Shinn's family's death? Because we can't have him possibly kill anyone. The real disappointment with Destiny HD is how it hasn't retconned anything though. It's just as boring as the original, they even brought back the clipshows.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 17:15
|
|
|
BlitzBlast posted:Didn't SEED HD also clearly show Kira not being responsible for Shinn's family's death? Because we can't have him possibly kill anyone. No, actually, SEED Destiny HD retconned that back. The SEED D movies changed it to emphasized Kira could not have killed Shin's family but the Destiny HD put the ambiguous shots back in.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 18:16
|
|
|
BlitzBlast posted:Didn't SEED HD also clearly show Kira not being responsible for Shinn's family's death? Because we can't have him possibly kill anyone. I always thought it was the Calamity, was it not?
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 18:16
|
|
|
BlitzBlast posted:Didn't SEED HD also clearly show Kira not being responsible for Shinn's family's death? Because we can't have him possibly kill anyone. No SEED HD actually made it even MORE apparent that Kira was partially responsible, which destiny HD then retconned. It's a mess.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 18:17
|
|
|
ImpAtom posted:There's thing Gundam, man, and like... instead of fighting it fires out these RAINBOWS and they make it so everyone understands each other and nobody fights anymore. The government is keeping it down though cuz they're being controlled by this space illuminati made of clones and robots... and robot clones! I gotta hand it to you for turning my That 70s Show reference back around into a perfect summary of S2 00.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 18:47
|
|
|
ManSeriesBrofist posted:
I know everyone else has touched on this, but gently caress that is some serious uncanny valley poo poo right there. Truth be told I actually liked Gundam SEED, but I couldn't get into the HD remake for his exact reason. Every HD shot threw me the gently caress out of it, and the shots they added and things they changed just seem flat out stupid to me.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 21:08
|
|
|
ManSeriesBrofist posted:
I couldn't decide whether to post that atrocious "how to draw manga" picture of Princess Jelly-eyes, or just to draw attention to the fact that Remaster Kira's collar is trying to strangle him to death. His very clothes are in rebellion.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 21:33
|
|
|
Caros posted:I know everyone else has touched on this, but gently caress that is some serious uncanny valley poo poo right there. I don't think you know what uncanny valley means cause... I'm not seeing it.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 21:46
|
|
|
ImpAtom posted:No, actually, SEED Destiny HD retconned that back. The SEED D movies changed it to emphasized Kira could not have killed Shin's family but the Destiny HD put the ambiguous shots back in. 
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 21:57
|
|
|
AradoBalanga posted:Christ. This sounds like a continuity debacle you'd find coming out of DC or Marvel, not Gundam. It is a hilarious mess although I think we can basically assume that SEED HD is the last retcon. Until we get Gundam SEED: The Origin a few years from now, of course!
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 21:59
|
|
|
ManSeriesBrofist posted:
It's also been said before, but if Gundam SEED actually looked like the image on the left instead of the image on the right, I might be able to actually sit through more than a couple episodes. It's nuts that the "remaster" makes it look worse. The off-model picture has a face and head that isn't horribly misshapen and actually shows emotion. Maybe it's uncanny valley or something, but the faces just look so hosed up and weird. The blank expressions mixed with widely spaced eyes seriously makes it look like the characters honest to god have downs. And given how the characters act, well... that doesn't help.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 22:17
|
|
|
ManSeriesBrofist posted:
There we go, all fixed up.
|
|
#
?
Jan 21, 2014 22:47
|
|
|
Eej posted:I don't think you know what uncanny valley means cause... I'm not seeing it. The uncanny valley refers to the feeling of revulsion you get when something looks almost, but not quite human. Usually its a reference to robotics and 3d animation, but I get the same sensation here. Looking at the picture on the right gives me the same disturbing shudders as looking at a real doll. It varies from person to person I suppose.
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 00:25
|
|
|
I know what you mean, honestly. There's something wrong with his mouth in particular. In the left image he looks like he's shouting in anger but in the right image it's just... hanging open for some reason.
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 01:02
|
|
|
The problem is that the remaster made his head too loving small for his face and your brain can't parse it right.
|
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 01:33
|
|
|
So I just saw this, and, well: http://schizophonic9.com/re3/mg_astnoir.html Sword Guns! And it's piloted by a besuited elderly Italian guy, because....! It's as though they've decided, gently caress it, the Cosmic Era isn't going to get any dumber than it already is. (and the loving Noir Striker "wings" that would never actually be able to produce lift, seriously you have science guys on the staff for a reason right  )
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 03:47
|
|
|
Plastic_Gargoyle posted:So I just saw this, and, well: That thing literally ruins every single thing I like about both of the suits it is composed of.
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 03:51
|
|
|
Plastic_Gargoyle posted:(and the loving Noir Striker "wings" that would never actually be able to produce lift, seriously you have science guys on the staff for a reason right That's been my pet peeve with every CE Strike flight pack after the Aile. It's like they started by designing the big fancy wings and then called it a day. The Aile Pack actually looks like it would get the Strike Gundam off the ground with those honking great booster engines, and it's a nice touch that it doesn't get enough lift to make it fly while on Earth  .
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 04:07
|
|
|
I kind of give the strike noir a "it looks cool" pass, because the strike noir is a great looking suit and I won't hear anything to the contrary  .
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 05:01
|
|
|
Wasn't that Tomino press conference supposed to be today? What happened with that?
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 05:18
|
|
Plastic_Gargoyle posted:So I just saw this, and, well: Those are the shittiest gunblades in gundam by far
|
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 05:19
|
|
|
MonsieurChoc posted:Wasn't that Tomino press conference supposed to be today? What happened with that? To paraphrase what was probably a paraphrase itself, "We're planning on doing a remake of one of my previous works, but the rights aren't locked in 100% yet, so we can't say what. If you know my work, you'll know what sort of show to expect. There'll also be an original work made by me and a bunch of other big names, and something based off of a book from this one publisher."
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 05:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 09:38 |
|
|
So basically G-Rev and Origin. Have we heard anything about the 'something based on a book' though?
|
|
#
?
Jan 22, 2014 05:35
|
|
