Doctor Butts posted:

My brother posted this article on Facebook, I'm sure this has been posted before but I don't specifically recall.

I've bolded the parts that I think are particularly dumb.

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/sthompson/130621 posted:

The inherent racism of liberalism
By Sylvia Thompson

Congressman Elbert Guillory has eloquently told the America people why he is leaving the Democratic Party. As many now know, Elbert Guillory is a black politician from Louisiana, and I give kudos, cheers, and hurrahs to him. I am always heartened by a black person awakening to the reality that the Democratic Party stands for liberalism, and liberalism at its core, is racist.

Progressivism, liberalism, socialism, communism have one thing in common, as I interpret them. They all require that some designated human or group of humans maintains power over other humans. To maintain power (and often wealth), the drivers of these ideologies must keep the masses that they manipulate under control. There must be a permanent underclass of people enabling the wealth and power of those who would be their "saviors." Those who would provide for the needs that a balanced human being should provide for himself.

This situation is no different in my view from the slavery that my ancestors (and many other groups throughout human history) experienced. It can even be argued that it is worse. Southern slave owners shackled bodies; these ideologies shackle the soul.

What touches me deeply, as a black person, is the realization that blacks in America are perfect fodder for manipulation by those who adhere to liberalism. Several centuries of conditioning to think that one must be cared for to survive makes for an easy target. Consequently, liberal Democrats (black and white) have used blacks perniciously.

As an adult, I have been able to assess my experience in America with a degree of maturity. I have experienced helpful revelations and come to a few conclusions, all of which position me diametrically opposed to any ideology that diminishes the humanity in human beings.

When I was growing up in Texas under legal segregation, my environment included all the levels of the black experience. In addition to the profane, the assorted criminal types, were the professionals. My doctor; the hospital where my mother delivered my younger siblings; my dentist (a high-school friend of my mother); my high-school principal, administrators, and teachers; and pretty much everything else was black and black owned. My parents were high-school educated and not of the same economic status as the professional blacks around us, but because those professionals were there, as role models for what could be, many of my generation and I were not likely to consider ourselves victims. And liberalism thrives on victims.

In the past several decades, black communities have become laboratories for liberal Democrat experiments in churning out victims. First they remove all God-given moral strictures by infiltrating the once-stalwart black church and turning the heads of pastors, then they throw in a convenient Planned Parenthood abortion facility to take care of the consequences of the rampant immoral behavior. They then install liberal blacks in political leadership of the communities to keep the masses in check. The resulting chaos and suffering are rife throughout Democrat-controlled areas in this nation. And blacks suffer the most, given our percentage of the population.

What has become of blacks in America under the thumb of liberalism is a travesty beyond calculation. Because unlike the slave masters of centuries ago, who shackled bodies that could thrive after the shackles were removed, liberalism shackles the mind and the soul, which is a lot more difficult to reclaim. And for that reason, I loathe liberalism and all of its companion ideologies. I am also averse to acceptance of anything that adherents to liberalism may have to offer. That includes Barack Obama.

1. I can't think of a god drat ideology that anyone is calling for in America, where one designated group of people does not hold power over another. Democracy, where people are elected to represent others, still hold power over them.

2. It's hosed up to say that the other ideology says blacks need to be cared for, while trying to make the point that blacks are a perfect target for manipulation. Oh, please! Care for those poor blacks by pulling the wool from their eyes so that they know they're being manipulated by others!

3. So liberalism is racist because it is agnostic? Give me a loving break.

Doctor Butts posted:

My brother posted this article on Facebook, I'm sure this has been posted before but I don't specifically recall.

I've bolded the parts that I think are particularly dumb.

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/sthompson/130621




1. I can't think of a god drat ideology that anyone is calling for in America, where one designated group of people does not hold power over another. Democracy, where people are elected to represent others, still hold power over them.

2. It's hosed up to say that the other ideology says blacks need to be cared for, while trying to make the point that blacks are a perfect target for manipulation. Oh, please! Care for those poor blacks by pulling the wool from their eyes so that they know they're being manipulated by others!

3. So liberalism is racist because it is agnostic? Give me a loving break.

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They all require that some designated human or group of humans maintains power over other humans.

Tuco posted:

According to my family members, Michelle Obama is "the most disrespecting skank to ever be in the White House."

dalstrs posted:

Jesus, some of you guys automatically assume that spanking a kid means literally beating them till they are bruised and bloody. I would like to see an article that proves a swat on the butt that stings for 10 seconds cause PTSD.

Also what do you do when your kid throws a temper tantrum in a supermarket? Do you grab them and use physical force to remove them or do you keep letting them act like little shits?

Tuco posted:

According to my family members, Michelle Obama is "the most disrespecting skank to ever be in the White House."

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By week's end, more than 300,000 people had responded to an online poll by the Today show, with 83 percent saying Michelle Obama had the right to bare legs. Of course she does, though even I was surprised at first to see her in shorts.

Tuco posted:

According to my family members, Michelle Obama is "the most disrespecting skank to ever be in the White House."

dalstrs posted:

Also what do you do when your kid throws a temper tantrum in a supermarket? Do you grab them and use physical force to remove them or do you keep letting them act like little shits?

dalstrs posted:

Jesus, some of you guys automatically assume that spanking a kid means literally beating them till they are bruised and bloody. I would like to see an article that proves a swat on the butt that stings for 10 seconds cause PTSD.

Also what do you do when your kid throws a temper tantrum in a supermarket? Do you grab them and use physical force to remove them or do you keep letting them act like little shits?

Amused to Death posted:

Yeah, you grab them and walk away with them, you don't hit their rear end repeatedly. People who advocate for spanking in all those memes are talking about a single tap of the butt to emphasize their point. A swat on the butt is not corporal punishment in the sense most people are talking about, that's more like when you smack a baby's hand when they're going near an electrical outlet. The purpose isn't to inflict pain as punishment, in fact it's not to inflict pain at all, it's just to emphasize the seriousness of the point. Regular spanking means inflicting pain as punishment.

Spangly A posted:

Yes, any form of physical discipline makes you a bad parent. Any of it. No exceptions, and you have literally no evidence otherwise.

evilbastard posted:

This would be from the August 2009 holiday trip to the Grand Canyon which caused no end of dramas


How dare she wear shorts on a holiday in the middle of summer as they were heading off to hike. You never saw Jackie Kennedy wearing anything less than a designer dress every minute of the day - even on holidays.

Except, you know, when she did :



Hell She's not even wearing shoes here.

dalstrs posted:

If you read the responses that were given to me here they disagree with you.


This is something that would be near impossible to prove either way because there is such a wide variation of other factors in raising a kid that it would be impossible to have a true control group for a study.

Spangly A posted:

When my friends kids play up we just ignore them and they calm down within two minutes because she's a capable parent who doesn't need to ever teach children that physical force is an acceptable solution.

Yes, any form of physical discipline makes you a bad parent. Any of it. No exceptions, and you have literally no evidence otherwise.

duffmensch posted:

The average temperature in Phoenix in August is roughly 105 (40.5) and it's usually much, much hotter on the pavement or just walking in the sun here. gently caress anyone who says that you need to wear pants or a full suit in that kind of weather.

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Seven Big Lies Obama Told In His State Of The Union Speech

1) Income inequality is the worst it’s ever been!

Obama sayeth, “[T]oday, after four years of economic growth, corporate profits and stock prices have rarely been higher, and those at the top have never done better. But average wages have barely budged. Inequality has deepened. Upward mobility has stalled. The cold, hard fact is that even in the midst of recovery, too many Americans are working more than ever just to get by; let alone to get ahead.”

2) Raising minimum wage will help families

Obama sayeth, “[We] have a bill to fix that by lifting the minimum wage to $10.10… This will help families. It will give businesses customers with more money to spend… So join the rest of the country. Say yes. Give America a raise.”

3) His minimum wage hike for federal workers brings immediate relief

Obama sayeth, “In the coming weeks, I will issue an executive order requiring federal contractors to pay their federally funded employees a fair wage of at least $10.10 an hour, because if you cook our troops’ meals or wash their dishes, you shouldn’t have to live in poverty.”

4) How many Americans have gained insurance under Obamacare?

Obama sayeth, “More than 9 million Americans have signed up for private health insurance or Medicaid coverage.”

5) Obama will cut red tape that’s holding up construction jobs!

Obama sayeth, “we’ll need Congress to protect more than 3 million jobs by finishing transportation and waterways bills this summer. But I will act on my own to slash bureaucracy and streamline the permitting process for key projects, so we can get more construction workers on the job as fast as possible.”

6) Your medicare premium went up? You’re making that up!

Obama sayeth, “because of this (health care) law, no American can ever again be dropped or denied coverage for a preexisting condition like asthma, back pain or cancer… And we did all this while adding years to Medicare’s finances, keeping Medicare premiums flat, and lowering prescription costs for millions of seniors.”


7. Obama’s created 8 million new jobs in the last four years
This figure leaves out a lot of lost jobs early in Obama’s presidency and glosses over that this recovery has been the weakest since World War II.

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1. Obama claims that “corporate profits and stock prices have rarely been higher, and those at the top have never done better. But… [u]pward mobility has stalled.” This has been refuted most recently by Harvard Economics Professor Raj Chetty who recently released a paper showing that upward mobility in America hasn’t changed since the 1970’s. This means that in the past 40+ years the chances of moving out of poverty in America have remained unchanged.

2. The President continued beating his ‘war on women’ drum last night, using his often cited statistic about women making only $.77 for every dollar a man makes in America. The problem is this statistic is completely bogus.

3. While the President made a big show out of the minimum wage he failed to tell the American people that the minimum wage actually only affects less than 1% of the work force.

4. Obama claimed “more than 9 million Americans have signed up” for coverage under ObamaCare during his speech last night, a number that has been widely challenged in the aftermath of the speech. Observers have pointed out that almost 5 million Americans have lost coverage because of the mandates in ObamaCare.

5. President Obama claimed to have added 8 million jobs to the U.S. economy last night to loud applause.

6. While Obama took credit for the rising domestic energy production he is lying by omission when he fails to tell the American people this energy boom has occurred in spite of his policies, not because of them. Much of the increase in domestic energy production has happened on private land, and despite the growing number of regulations that the Obama administration has heaped on the industry.

7. The Affordable Care Act, ObamaCare to most, is on its face a lie.

8. While carbon emissions are not at the top of ForAmerica’s policy priorities, holding President Obama accountable for his claims is what we are all about. Last night, the President claimed the U.S. “reduced our total carbon pollution more than any other nation on Earth.” The facts show many nations reduced their emissions by a greater percentage than the U.S. has in recent years.

9. On Iran, President Obama told the American people a flat out lie last night. The President said that Iran is now eliminating its stockpile of highly enriched uranium. While evidence exists that the Iranians, under the recent international agreement, have begun oxidizing their highly enriched uranium, a process that makes the uranium unusable. Obama failed to say this process is completely reversible, and thus, Iran has not eliminated their stockpiles at all.

Job Truniht posted:

I'm thinking of just de-friending one of my relatives now that I found out he is a tea partier, but I think I'd like to confront him first.

Jurgan posted:

So I got a couple of gems from an old teacher of mine who's pretty conservative (Social Fixer called her "Fred," but she is a woman). I was pretty proud of my first response:

Capt. Sticl posted:

Maybe you were paying attention though, you might have noticed he didn't lie seven times, he lied NINE times:

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1. Obama claims that “corporate profits and stock prices have rarely been higher, and those at the top have never done better. But… [u]pward mobility has stalled.” This has been refuted most recently by Harvard Economics Professor Raj Chetty who recently released a paper showing that upward mobility in America hasn’t changed since the 1970’s. This means that in the past 40+ years the chances of moving out of poverty in America have remained unchanged.

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2. The President continued beating his ‘war on women’ drum last night, using his often cited statistic about women making only $.77 for every dollar a man makes in America. The problem is this statistic is completely bogus.

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3. While the President made a big show out of the minimum wage he failed to tell the American people that the minimum wage actually only affects less than 1% of the work force.

Jurgan posted:

XyloJW posted:

I think we've covered the spanking thing, which I had to go 4 pages back to find the start of. Discuss other things for now please.

Capt. Sticl posted:

Ron Jeremy posted:

Are you sassin' me? Go get a switch.

E-Tank posted:

Well, that's another way to look at Mod Sass, I guess.

_{please don't hit me Xylo}

XyloJW posted:

If I did, it would be because Ron Jeremy taught me it's how I should solve problems.

E: man, I wish that wasn't his username right now.

Capt. Sticl posted:

7. The Affordable Care Act, ObamaCare to most, is on its face a lie.

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3. While the President made a big show out of the minimum wage he failed to tell the American people that the minimum wage actually only affects less than 1% of the work force.

Wojtek posted:

The Dos Equis guy is the worst meme after Willy Wonka. I just know there is going to be something really stupid to be read once I see that guy.

gradenko_2000 posted:

What if it's all a lie and we improve quality of life for only less than 1% of the work force?!

Alternatively, gently caress this talking point because forcing private companies to increase pay for their workers unilaterally would be just the sort of Obama-tyranny people always accuse him of but never actually happens. That it's only affecting 1% of the work force means he is staying within constitutionality.

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

I've been seeing an alleged LBJ quote of "I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years" going around. Is that a real quote? I haven't been able to find a source.

seiferguy posted:

Even if upward mobility has remained the same, it doesn't change the fact that it's incredibly difficult to move up and it's a problem in social inequality.

Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

Obama was wrong if he framed it as upward mobility stalling recently, if Chetty is correct, but it doesn't change the fact that upward mobility is a myth for most.