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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:A really big spoiler you should not mouse over: Yeah, actually. (entirety of the plot spoilers)The game pretty much explicitly tells you what's up right from the beginning with the picture of the Larva phase and the 6 in the back of the journal. There's a way to tell how many you have left until Bravely Default in the main menu. Honestly, I'm not a fan of the journal near the end due to how much it blatantly gives away. Now, the file load screen on the other hand... 
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I said come in! posted:This is actually one of those things a lot of people knew about going in, and honestly I would go as far as to say you should know about this going into the game. I'm surprised more people don't talk about it because it's kinda a super lazy design decision that developers should never do. I don't think I played it at all on Friday or Saturday, then put a few hours in last night. I usually have it in sleep mode though so Norende is really far upgraded. Anyway, I just finished the sub-quest in Chapter 1 last night, so now I have more jobs than I know what to do with. Also I was rockin' Agnes as a White Mage for a while, but decided to switch her to a Thief with the Angel Bow (and White Magic as her secondary job). She's now a totally badass killing machine. 
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Feb 10, 2014 15:23
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irlZaphod posted:Anyway, I just finished the sub-quest in Chapter 1 last night, so now I have more jobs than I know what to do with. Also I was rockin' Agnes as a White Mage for a while, but decided to switch her to a Thief with the Angel Bow (and White Magic as her secondary job). She's now a totally badass killing machine. If you aren't classing Agnes for the jobs she's statistically the worst in, you're doing it wrong. 
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Feb 10, 2014 15:24
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Hivac posted:If you aren't classing Agnes for the jobs she's statistically the worst in, you're doing it wrong. I intend to master all jobs for all 4 characters. Now if I could just beat the stupid vampire boss. :/
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Feb 10, 2014 15:25
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I said come in! posted:I'm surprised more people don't talk about it because it's kinda a super lazy design decision that developers should never do. I'd say it's largely because of the spoilery nature of it. They did add a new sidequest in chapter 7? That has some great dialogue and pretty drat challenging fights.
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Feb 10, 2014 15:31
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Hivac posted:If you aren't classing Agnes for the jobs she's statistically the worst in, you're doing it wrong. 
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Feb 10, 2014 15:49
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irlZaphod posted:Yeah, I had her as a ninja in the demo and she was pretty badass in that too. I can't wait to get it in the game. Thief with Utsesemi. Ninja will never not be Square's go-to dodgetank 
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Feb 10, 2014 15:51
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So I don't have all the jobs yet but was thinking back and culture talk that may be super wrong but the Idol that gives you Performer seemed to be the only Job master that you don't straight up murder. I was wondering why everyone dies but her and part of me wonders if it's because Japan (from what I hear anyway) is obsessed with idols and the like. Is it wrong to think that?
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Feb 10, 2014 16:19
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If you guys are bringing up that particular anime to imply that the plot goes all Endless Eight on you, spoiler tag that poo poo, seriously. Even the reference is enough to get the idea across.
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Feb 10, 2014 16:21
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Terper posted:Agnés is done by Erin Fitzgerald, who did Emmeryn.  ) Raquna in the latest Etrian Odyssey game. ()
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Feb 10, 2014 16:22
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You don't kill the vampire either! I guess all the others were unwilling to back down so you had to fight them to the death. Whereas DeRosso was just testing your strength and Praline is a coward and ran away
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Feb 10, 2014 16:24
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UselessLurker posted:If you guys are bringing up that particular anime to imply that the plot goes all Endless Eight on you, spoiler tag that poo poo, seriously. Even the reference is enough to get the idea across. But this game doesn't have any time travel in it!
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Feb 10, 2014 16:28
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:So I don't have all the jobs yet but was thinking back and culture talk that may be super wrong but the Idol that gives you Performer seemed to be the only Job master that you don't straight up murder. I was wondering why everyone dies but her and part of me wonders if it's because Japan (from what I hear anyway) is obsessed with idols and the like. Is it wrong to think that? Edea's father survives. He's just wounded and "may never use a sword again."
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Feb 10, 2014 16:32
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Just saying but I hope Egil blows up soon. Got my Ninja ability and this whole Egil saga is really boring. I'm aware the last few chapters apparently repeat themselves for some reason but this is just so dull. I don't care about Egil at all or this Innkeeper
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Feb 10, 2014 16:42
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Me: I should test one of these super attacks you borrow from a friend. I'm sure there's some kind of balancing mechanic to keep them from wrecking the difficulty curve. *Does 9999 damage, instantly 1-shotting the boss.* Me: Not much else to comment on without looking at all the black bars. I originally planned to crank it up to hard as soon as I had a full party but the game seems to provide a healthy challenge on normal already. Money's kinda tight though. Anyway, game owns. 5/5 would Default again.
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Feb 10, 2014 16:45
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Rangpur posted:Me: I should test one of these super attacks you borrow from a friend. I'm sure there's some kind of balancing mechanic to keep them from wrecking the difficulty curve. Once you get to Chapter 4, there are places you'll have access to that makes money a non-issue. I'm glad for this because the game has plenty of grinding otherwise.
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Feb 10, 2014 16:49
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Unmature posted:I'm pretty sure I only used one. Maybe I activated it and accidentally used three in one instance? Still weird that I got a full night's sleep and the hourglass is completely empty. Did you brave during the time stop? Each brave uses a sp and you can go negative.
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Feb 10, 2014 16:50
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So is there a lightly spoiled version of what happens at chapter 5? I'm enjoying the game quite a bit, but now it's bugging me and I have a habit of waiting indefinitely before a big game event grinding and things in case. I don't need a plot spoiler so much as just what happens mechanically if that makes sense.
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Feb 10, 2014 16:52
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Saxophone posted:So is there a lightly spoiled version of what happens at chapter 5? I'm enjoying the game quite a bit, but now it's bugging me and I have a habit of waiting indefinitely before a big game event grinding and things in case. I don't need a plot spoiler so much as just what happens mechanically if that makes sense. Think Groundhog Day
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Feb 10, 2014 16:55
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Aurain posted:I once tried to watch Haruhi. This sounds a whole lot like some sort of haiku.
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Feb 10, 2014 16:59
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Wow, the Dragon boss in the Vestment Cave took a pretty unexpected turn. Playing on Hard, I went into the fight at level 19. I got destroyed by him on the first try, but managed to examine him and found that he was weak to Water. So I changed all my Specials--which had been charged up by the trip through the cave--to Water and gave them 20% power boosts (thank you, shitload of Norende villagers). Went in, Defaulted a bunch, Tiz (White Mage) and Edea (Knight) get killed anyway. Ringabel Phoenix Downs both, Tiz uses a healing special, and everyone releases their attack Specials. Everyone crits, to the tune of 2000-3000 damage each, and that's before they follow them up with a ton of Blizzards/Stomps/Attacks. The boss's 10,000 HP were gone in two turns. Specials are insane.
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Feb 10, 2014 17:00
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Is it just me or is this game sorta... easy? The brave system more or less means you wipe most randoms in one turn and turning encounters to +100% allows me to level up abnormally fast in the process of going through a dungeon. Not really a complaint just curious if anyone else has noticed this
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Feb 10, 2014 17:01
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So is there any reason at all not to train everyone as a spell fencer because holy poo poo they are loving wrecking the difficulty curve. I'm in the early part of Chapter 2 and Edea as a thief with a Compound Bow and a Fira Sword enchantment can swing for over 2000 damage if she crits and the enemy is weak.
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Feb 10, 2014 17:02
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That boss in particular seems pretty weak to them. I queued up specials on all four characters and it only took Tiz's (he had the first norende bow and second special move unlocked.) As for spell fencers they are pretty amazing...until you run into magic immune enemies or ones only vulnerable to wind or earth. Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Feb 10, 2014 |
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Feb 10, 2014 17:03
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OrganizedInsanity posted:Is it just me or is this game sorta... easy? The brave system more or less means you wipe most randoms in one turn and turning encounters to +100% allows me to level up abnormally fast in the process of going through a dungeon. Not really a complaint just curious if anyone else has noticed this Play on Hard. I'm still only in Chapter 1 but enemies in random battles are routinely fast enough to act before I do and routinely deal 30% of a character's HP in damage in one attack. Hard also cranks up the HP on boss enemies dramatically, so you (usually) can't just unthinkingly burn them down in a couple of turns. I think I got lucky on that boss I just posted about. I'm told the end of Chapter 4 is where the gloves come off, though, on both Normal and Hard. Mokinokaro posted:That boss in particular seems pretty weak to them. I queued up specials on all four characters and it only took Tiz's (he had the first norende bow and second special move unlocked.) It does feel pretty good to completely stomp a boss that completely stomped me on the first try without even leveling up in between.
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Chapter 2 spoilers and question: if, theoretically, you were to use Bravely Second a lot to summon a bunch of absurdly high-powered friends to win the scripted battle against Victoria and Victor, what would happen? Would it just proceed as normal, with Victoria having a seizure and Victor bugging out with her?OrganizedInsanity posted:Is it just me or is this game sorta... easy? The brave system more or less means you wipe most randoms in one turn and turning encounters to +100% allows me to level up abnormally fast in the process of going through a dungeon. Not really a complaint just curious if anyone else has noticed this It is only as easy or as difficult as you make it. If you want it to be harder, set the difficulty to Hard, turn encounters down to -50%, disable EXP gain, or anything else.
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OrganizedInsanity posted:Is it just me or is this game sorta... easy? The brave system more or less means you wipe most randoms in one turn and turning encounters to +100% allows me to level up abnormally fast in the process of going through a dungeon. Not really a complaint just curious if anyone else has noticed this I honestly think it's intended that you be able to wipe most early random encounters with ease, and part of the point of putting in the brave system was to dramatically reduce the time spent on random encounters you'd be able to faceroll anyway without it, but a bit more slowly.
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Bongo Bill posted:Chapter 2 spoilers and question: if, theoretically, you were to use Bravely Second a lot to summon a bunch of absurdly high-powered friends to win the scripted battle against Victoria and Victor, what would happen? Would it just proceed as normal, with Victoria having a seizure and Victor bugging out with her? Proceeds as normal. It's an entirely winnable battle.
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Feb 10, 2014 17:42
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The story content is easy, but the side quests can be pretty challenging. From what i've been reading else where, there are a lot of ways you can break the games mechanics too with certain job/ability combinations.
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Feb 10, 2014 17:42
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Aurain posted:Spoilers
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Feb 10, 2014 17:43
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MiltonSlavemasta posted:I honestly think it's intended that you be able to wipe most early random encounters with ease, and part of the point of putting in the brave system was to dramatically reduce the time spent on random encounters you'd be able to faceroll anyway without it, but a bit more slowly.
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Feb 10, 2014 17:44
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I was just wondering, is there any way to view a boss's HP without having to bringing Miscellany into every battle. It's pretty annoying having to use up a skill slot for it.
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Feb 10, 2014 17:47
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Ask one of your friends to send the skill pretty much.
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Feb 10, 2014 17:49
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Nope. But if you only want to know their total, just take it into battle, use it, reset and go in as you wanted. If you know the total, you could mental math a rough estimate of the remaining HP left fairly easily. e: Yep, pretty much. I just go without it unless I'm mimic'ing somehting, then it's two birds one stone. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Feb 10, 2014 |
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Feb 10, 2014 17:49
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...Then why wouldn't you have like, Gamefaqs open on your phone/browser in the first place? It is a stupid idea to not include the itemized version of Analyze/Libra.
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Feb 10, 2014 17:55
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Or god forbid just remember it after you've already used Examine or killed a few of them. Discover that their weakness is fire on your own? Record it! Final Fantasy 13 has the gold standard for Libra-like skills as far as I'm concerned. It automatically fills in strengths/weaknesses as you find them and everything else gradually fills in as you kill more of the same monster, or you can just cast Libra on it to fill in most/all of it at once. BD went with the second worst possible way to implement it and the only way it could be worse is if you had to recast Examine to see how much HP they have left a few turns later.
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Feb 10, 2014 18:00
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Artix posted:So is there any reason at all not to train everyone as a spell fencer because holy poo poo they are loving wrecking the difficulty curve. I'm in the early part of Chapter 2 and Edea as a thief with a Compound Bow and a Fira Sword enchantment can swing for over 2000 damage if she crits and the enemy is weak. LOL 2k how cute, my knights shield attack with dual shields crits for like 6k. You'll get another class soon that makes the spell fencer buffs seem pointless.
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Feb 10, 2014 18:03
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big mean giraffe posted:LOL 2k how cute, my knights shield attack with dual shields crits for like 6k. You'll get another class soon that makes the spell fencer buffs seem pointless. Spell fencer buffs are ridiculous if you like hitting for 9999 multiple times in a single attack round.
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big mean giraffe posted:LOL 2k how cute, my knights shield attack with dual shields crits for like 6k. You'll get another class soon that makes the spell fencer buffs seem pointless.
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Is there any point to The Adventurer's Mark beyond "woo, I beat the superboss?" He's a pretty crap superboss.
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