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Lurdiak posted:I guess. I just think it's the film equivalent of putting George R. R. Martin's work on the same level as Voltaire, Moliere, Shakespeare, etc. Dumb escapism is cool and all, but it kinda slides off the brain. We really shouldn't have to qualify that stuff on a comic book forum.
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Good and bad film's are just subjective and a film being of a certain genre doesn't make it any less legitimate than another. We don't need to be rationalising things on a "is this Citizen Kane or not", they're not video games.
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Waterhaul posted:Good and bad film's are just subjective That's a subjective point of view.
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I love the No True Scotsman arguments on the last page.
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concept animations from Guardians of the Galaxy. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=94469
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Lurdiak posted:When you call a movie like Thor good you kind of have to qualify it, lest someone think you mean it's Citizen Kane instead of a fun superhero popcorn movie. But apparently people in this thread think the first Superman movie is a legitimately valuable piece of cinema instead of a dumb popcorn flick, so maybe that kind of distinction isn't important? Citizen Kane is ponderous which doesn't automatically make it good. It's a very impressive film but not even Welles' best.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Citizen Kane is ponderous which doesn't automatically make it good. It's a very impressive film but not even Welles' best. His best work is clearly his pea commercials.
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Feb 13, 2014 17:32
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theflyingorc posted:His best work is clearly his pea commercials. "Yes, Rosebud green peas. Full of country goodness and green peaness"
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theflyingorc posted:His best work is clearly his pea commercials. His best work is in The Critic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i7ycxiog40
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Cadavers4Algernon posted:"Yes, Rosebud green peas. Full of country goodness and green peaness" Wow. Until just now, I never got that was the joke. (That the commercial was really poorly written with no clue for how it would sound when spoken aloud.) Up until this I had assumed the joke was hearing Orson Wells say the word Penis, which is funny. Well that's something new I learned today, and another example of one of those "incredibly obvious things that you never realized until someone points them out." jokes. In other related news about the "good for it's genre, but not Actually good" train of thought, I came across this on my Facebook feed today and it seems related to the argument. http://io9.com/the-real-reason-why-...dium=socialflow http://www.salon.com/2014/02/07/is_the_literary_world_elitist/ The first link is really just a short piece that links to the second link, but it features a kicking picture of a dude in a jetpack so that gives it a pass from me.
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Cadavers4Algernon posted:"Yes, Rosebud green peas. Full of country goodness and green peaness" I loved when pinky and the brian made fun of it and the original since why not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlXEC8kcbqc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol5RpDEzLzY
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Lurdiak posted:When you call a movie like Thor good you kind of have to qualify it When you make any claim of quality about anything you kind of have to qualify it. When it comes to movies, I don't think any one genre should require more justification of its quality than any other. A serious, Oscar darling, character drama is in no way inherently superior in quality to a movie about a dude in a suit of armor flying around. Nor should it get a pass from the same nitpicking scrutiny that you'd apply to a film from the 'sillier' genre. DFu4ever fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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DFu4ever posted:When it comes to movies, I don't think any one genre should require more justification of its quality than any other. A serious, Oscar darling, character drama is in no way inherently superior in quality to a movie about a dude in a suit of armor flying around. In fact, Iron Man is better than any of the last three movies to win Best Picture.
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theflyingorc posted:His best work is clearly his pea commercials. I think you mean Transformers where he played some character he couldn't be bothered to know the name of.
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lomzus posted:concept animations from Guardians of the Galaxy. So when a studio requests they pull down an image they replace it with a censor bared topless Wonder Woman porn picture, classy.
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SirDan3k posted:So when a studio requests they pull down an image they replace it with a censor bared topless Wonder Woman porn picture, classy. Here ya go. http://i.minus.com/irdYgmL0j913W.gif
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SirDan3k posted:So when a studio requests they pull down an image they replace it with a censor bared topless Wonder Woman porn picture, classy. Comicbookmovie is a very terrible site which unfortunately due to it's name gets a lot of hits due to non leaks and terrible rumours.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:58
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theflyingorc posted:His best work is clearly his pea commercials. Touch of Evil
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Deadpool posted:Here ya go. Thanks, that's pretty drat neat looking.
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SirDan3k posted:Thanks, that's pretty drat neat looking. It was announced that the trailer will be released next Tuesday as well.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Touch of Evil Acting wise it is Third Man. Nothing can top the ferris wheel talk.
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bobkatt013 posted:Acting wise it is Third Man. Nothing can top the ferris wheel talk. bobkatt013 is a man who knows his Orson Wells and you should all pay very close attention to what he's saying.
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To this day Switzerland curses the name Welles for convincing the world they're the ones responsible for the Cuckoo Clock.
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Mr. Maltose posted:To this day Switzerland curses the name Welles for convincing the world they're the ones responsible for the Cuckoo Clock. That's not even the best part of that scene. It's the part when they're up in the wheel, and Cotten thinks Welles is going to throw him out to keep him quiet. And then the whole "if I offered you £20,000 for every one of those specks that stopped moving..." spiel.
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Orson Welles himself believed that Chimes of Midnight was his peak as both actor and director, and I'd be hard pressed to argue with him.
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bobkatt013 posted:Acting wise it is Third Man. Nothing can top the ferris wheel talk. Acting-wise hell yeah Third Man wins. I was talking about Welles' direction. EDIT: Uncle Boogeyman posted:Orson Welles himself believed that Chimes of Midnight was his peak as both actor and director, and I'd be hard pressed to argue with him. I still like Touch of Evil better.
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What funnybook movie is Orson Welles directing again?
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Happy Hippo posted:What funnybook movie is Orson Welles directing again? Orson Welles is Vulture in ASM2.
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Happy Hippo posted:What funnybook movie is Orson Welles directing again? The one with the most peaness
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Apparently Welles wanted to do either a Batman film or serial set back in the late 30s early 40s.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Apparently Welles wanted to do either a Batman film or serial set back in the late 30s early 40s. I believe that was revealed to be a hoax.
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muscles like this? posted:I believe that was revealed to be a hoax. Yeah it was. Cool to think about, though.
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Deadpool posted:Here ya go. Pure awesome in every way imaginable.  Can anyone make out if the building in the beginning just some nondescript watchtower, or more alien in structure. At a quick glance it looks like they're terrorizing a boy scout cam.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Apparently Welles wanted to do either a Batman film or serial set back in the late 30s early 40s. I am shocked that they did not ask Welles to be Jor-el in Superman 1. He might have been cheaper than Brando and might have gave a bit more of a poo poo.
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Happy Hippo posted:What funnybook movie is Orson Welles directing again? He was a pretty good Shadow  S.W.O.R.D. Agent posted:Pure awesome in every way imaginable. There was "better quality" in the leaked trailer from SDCC and just looked like a generic watchtower but it'll be more obvious when the trailer comes out next week.
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AFAIK that one shot is just from an animatic and probably won't be in the film. That's why they never released the CC footage.
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Waterhaul posted:There was "better quality" in the leaked trailer from SDCC and just looked like a generic watchtower but it'll be more obvious when the trailer comes out next week. Awesome, I can't wait. I don't know why, but I'm way more excited for GotG than I have been for the past few Marvel movies.
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Citizen Kane was boring as gently caress and if Thor showed up and started whipping his hammer and hair around it would of been a much better movie.
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Actually, for what it was, Citizen Kane was a very good movie.
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In 2040, people will say "for what it was" to refer to movies WITHOUT superheroes and action and magic. Since all that stuff will be real by then.
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