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BiggerBoat posted:Holy crap, do these hacks just keep trying to one up each other. It's laughable and sad. Quite frankly, florida doesn't get ENOUGH of a rap reflective of just how lovely it is. The state is epic in its corruption and general mistreatment of human beings. Zimmerman and other high-profile cases is just the frothy surface foam on the diarrhea hellscape that is florida. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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Well spacedad these are Internet Libertarians, not exactly the brain trust of the internet. These are the same people who buy bitcoins and read Ayn Rand. In a more related note I just watched Bill O'riley try to justify Michael Dunn's actions because he was "standing his ground against harmful gangster rap thats destroying the black community that he cares so much about"  No spin zone my rear end
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Infomaniac posted:gently caress your family. gently caress your life. gently caress other countries. gently caress vacation. BUY A CADILLAC! - a good ad. I love that bit where he says "Because we're the only ones going back up there (the moon)!", because my money's on China, India... or literally anybody other than the States; to be honest.
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Alexzandvar posted:Well spacedad these are Internet Libertarians, not exactly the brain trust of the internet. These are the same people who buy bitcoins and read Ayn Rand. Of course, this is a person defending florida because a racist shot a black kid and walked. I wouldn't expect them to know or care much about the state beyond whatever their extremist political blinders present for them. Choosing to defend the state of florida of all places for whatever the reason is a hilariously losing battle. The state is loving broken, in a shameful way that should make anyone of any political stripe feel ashamed.
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Spacedad posted:Quite frankly, florida doesn't get ENOUGH of a rap reflective of just how lovely it is. The state is epic in its corruption and general mistreatment of human beings. Zimmerman and other high-profile cases is just the frothy surface foam on the diarrhea tourist-trap hellscape that is florida. Its a real shame. I love the everglades and the keys and coastal regions in Florida, but every time I think about moving there the sheer craziness of the populace kills any motivation I might have to follow through. Which I guess is ok, my nest egg just has Hawaii House written on it instead.
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Spaceman Future! posted:Its a real shame. I love the everglades and the keys and coastal regions in Florida, but every time I think about moving there the sheer craziness of the populace kills any motivation I might have to follow through. Which I guess is ok, my nest egg just has Hawaii House written on it instead. Does anyone know how Puerto Rico is? I kind of want to retire in a Caribbean Island but I don't really want to leave the US.
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Spacedad posted:Of course, this is a person defending florida because a racist shot a black kid and walked. I wouldn't expect them to know or care much about the state beyond whatever their extremist political blinders present for them. Choosing to defend the state of florida of all places for whatever the reason is a hilariously losing battle. Speaking of which, how's that whole Tomato-pickers are literally slaves problem been lately?
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Spacedad posted:Of course, this is a person defending florida because a racist shot a black kid and walked. I wouldn't expect them to know or care much about the state beyond whatever their extremist political blinders present for them. Choosing to defend the state of florida of all places for whatever the reason is a hilariously losing battle. I'm going to college in Florida, so I guess there low instate tuition rates are nice  It creates quite the contrasts to, basically everyone who goes to college in florida that doesn't go to Uni of Florida is pretty liberal.
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Infomaniac posted:gently caress your family. gently caress your life. gently caress other countries. gently caress vacation. BUY A CADILLAC! - a good ad. The consolation prizes for living in this place are pretty underwhelming. How could anyone take any other message from this? You can buy a pool and a Cadillac anywhere in the world, but I guess it's way more fun when you HAVE TO.
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computer parts posted:Does anyone know how Puerto Rico is? I kind of want to retire in a Caribbean Island but I don't really want to leave the US. Not good. Politically it's a loving mess.
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FuzzySkinner posted:So this band just preformed the anthemm at the NASCAR Nationwide race I'm watching: how about some GWB era pop punk? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-z2D9lo9-8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Your Gay Uncle posted:how about some GWB era pop punk? "Economy's on the rise/Kickin' it in overdrive" 
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fade5 posted:I'm trying to think of what good or even okay programs are left on CNN, and all I can come up with is Anderson Cooper. Is there anything else not horrible on CNN, or is Anderson Cooper the only thing left? Don Lemon is okay. Seems to have a soul.
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fade5 posted:I'm trying to think of what good or even okay programs are left on CNN, and all I can come up with is Anderson Cooper. Is there anything else not horrible on CNN, or is Anderson Cooper the only thing left? AC is alright, but Gupta at least tacitly endorses pseudoscience way too much for me to like him. But then, that's one of my big pet issues, misleading people about medicine. He really fits with CNN, going for flash over substance with little to no critical thought. "Wow, maybe eating avocados cures cancer, who can say," etc.
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Alexzandvar posted:It's mostly just because MLP is popular on the internet and there's a lot of edgy internet libertarians who hear things about how evil the government from some guys blog and make it their life's cause. Can we just note that a lot of edgy internet libertarians are weird talentless hacks in general? I just came across this dude's work. Apparently the same guy who makes these:   Also is really fond of this and in his spare time draws this.   What the hell internet? 
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ShadowCatboy posted:Can we just note that a lot of edgy internet libertarians are weird talentless hacks in general? I just came across this dude's work. Apparently the same guy who makes these: If I was shown this stuff randomly I would seriously guess that it was the work of a 12 year-old.
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Pharmaskittle posted:AC is alright, but Gupta at least tacitly endorses pseudoscience way too much for me to like him. But then, that's one of my big pet issues, misleading people about medicine. He really fits with CNN, going for flash over substance with little to no critical thought. "Wow, maybe eating avocados cures cancer, who can say," etc. I mentioned Gupta because I remembered that he was willing to admit he was wrong on marijuana and I also remembered that he did a good job explaining how insane it was that Michael Jackson was taking Propofol as a way to sleep. For reference, he did it by showing Propofol being used in a hospital setting. Seriously, it's loving scary how fast that stuff works.  E: I guess that might fall under "flash", but it was a good visual demonstration to me why Jackson's doctor okaying Propofol as a sleep aid was a completely insane decision. fade5 fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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fade5 posted:Ah, I'm sad to hear he goes for some of the pseudoscience stuff. From my understanding, he's not a total proponent of it, but he refuses to discount anything at all, ever. I don't think he's a bad guy and he'd probably be a reasonable doctor to his actual patients, but he gives airtime to bullshit stuff and treats it as reasonable alternatives, likely due to being beholden to his news handlers.
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ShadowCatboy posted:Can we just note that a lot of edgy internet libertarians are weird talentless hacks in general? I just came across this dude's work. Apparently the same guy who makes these: The term 'hack' implies someone is getting paid for their work, but doesn't have any artistic integrity behind it. This is just the talentless prattlings of ideaologue fanatics. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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Alexzandvar posted:It's mostly just because MLP is popular on the internet and there's a lot of edgy internet libertarians who hear things about how evil the government from some guys blog and make it their life's cause. If anything my little pony is a socialist utopia, you'd think it'd drive internet conservatives and libertarians crazy. Everyone shares (the capital) and everyone is happy. ShadowCatboy posted:Can we just note that a lot of edgy internet libertarians are weird talentless hacks in general? I just came across this dude's work. Apparently the same guy who makes these: This sorta thing has always bothered me, weird fetishes aside. What does making poo poo like this accomplish? Is anyone really gonna stumble upon a picture of Obama with COMMUNIST under it and be like "Oh gosh, I better hop over to the other side, this guy's no good!" I mean I get the echo chamber mentality but at some point isn't it just retreading old ground over and over again?
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Did you ever take a look at the Tea Party Community thread? TPC was filled to the brim with crap like that and it functioned as nothing more than masturbatory material for the users to congratulate each other over in a non-ironic manner.
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I dunno. D&D is a well of leftwing inspiration that I can drink from. When I'm relaxing, I enjoy reading other people agree with what I already know to be true. I get a lot of useful information while not challenging my basic worldview. It's refreshing infotainment (a word that Chrome doesn't underline in red because that is where we are as a society). I have to imagine rightists are the same, it's human nature and politics-as-sport. They're wrong (obviously) but the same basic human impulses are intact and I can't really claim a moral high ground from an emotional perspective. A factual one, sure. But not an emotional one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5RAvDZZyCI
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It's true that people like to be told that they are right, but American conservatism takes it to a whole other level. A friend and I went to some Tea Party-like meetups in Florida in early 2010 and it was just a gigantic echo chamber. We were the youngest people there by 30 years, the only minority we saw was an African-American kid one of the speakers had adopted (and later learned that she tried to "give back"), and the "lay people" that worked up the nerve to stand up to speak for a few seconds just regurgitated whatever right-wing media talking point was hot at the time and got applauded. These are not folks interested in learning anything or challenging their own worldviews. They just want to belong to a community of like-minded people where they can tell racist Obama jokes, complain about "where America is headed", and be reassured that yes, they really ARE correct about how they think the world works, and everyone else is trying to ruin them personally. They are insecure and subconsciously know that the world they have crafted for themselves is a rapidly crumbling falsehood. That's why there's such a thick epistemological bubble on the right-wing in America, and you get "unskewed polls" by Dean Chambers, Karl Rove pitching a tantrum over Ohio election results, and Mitt Romney not having a concession speech prepared. These folks are willfully ignoring reality because just shouting their abhorrent opinions with the amp turned up to 11 isn't working anymore.
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They're not even the same thing. It's always, always a song with the right. They're not talking, they're singing with each other direct from the Rush hymnal. Rhythms, verses, rhyme, riffs. That's the only structure their poo poo fits into. Obviously the left does a bit of this too when they get together, but one's way more like herding cats for the reason that people are sometimes actually exchanging words and not just shibboleths.
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Shbobdb posted:I dunno. D&D is a well of leftwing inspiration that I can drink from. When I'm relaxing, I enjoy reading other people agree with what I already know to be true. I get a lot of useful information while not challenging my basic worldview. It's refreshing infotainment (a word that Chrome doesn't underline in red because that is where we are as a society). I have to imagine rightists are the same, it's human nature and politics-as-sport. They're wrong (obviously) but the same basic human impulses are intact and I can't really claim a moral high ground from an emotional perspective. A factual one, sure. But not an emotional one. Sure you can claim a moral high ground. The policies you support help people and the ones you oppose hurt people, as can be factually proven. People who support corrupt, destructive policies can't use ignorance as an excuse.
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When I think of the Tea Party, I can't help but feel that there is this deep-deep existential crisis going on for them. It's not necessarily just the echo-chamber, but them being terrified of stepping outside of it. Nobody could walk away from the 2012 election and say that the GOP and its ideology weren't suffering from any problems. And it's the end game of reactionary movements such as this to become more reactionary.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:The difference is conservatives start with an opinion and then find evidence to support that opinion, and non-conservatives look at all available evidence and then form opinions from it. Well there is a school of psych thought that says this is actually what everybody does all the time: we intuit and then try our damnedest to support that intuition. But some people challenge their intuition when they fail to find any support for it. It's a mildly uncomfortable process (like learning is), and if you tell people they don't have to do it anymore, they're liable to take you up on it. It was really no accident that America's churches got caught up on the lovely side of politics, that sort of faith+communion is too easily applied to anything you need automatic consensus on. e: I'm not bashing the church, I'm just saying that the right is a church for assholes. agarjogger fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Cross posting from "Awkward/Ugly" thread: Sir, that is not a corona.
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Job Truniht posted:When I think of the Tea Party, I can't help but feel that there is this deep-deep existential crisis going on for them. It's not necessarily just the echo-chamber, but them being terrified of stepping outside of it. Nobody could walk away from the 2012 election and say that the GOP and its ideology weren't suffering from any problems. And it's the end game of reactionary movements such as this to become more reactionary. When Romney lost the presidential election the right decided it was because they weren't far enough to the right.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:The difference is conservatives start with an opinion and then find evidence to support that opinion, and non-conservatives look at all available evidence and then form opinions from it. That's not even vaguely true. This sort of "our enemies are bad thing, but we would never bad thing!" thinking is really counterproductive.
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Pope Guilty posted:That's not even vaguely true. This sort of "our enemies are bad thing, but we would never bad thing!" thinking is really counterproductive. It may not be true for all conservatives but it sure is for a vast number of them, quite a bit more then we'd find on the left. Hundreds of millions of conservative dollars are spent every single year churning out bullshit reports about how their backwards rear end ideas won't do the exact opposite of what they intend. Saying non conservatives don't fall into the same trap surely isn't true but you find a lot less of it among the accepted left and those that do are rightfully ignored whereas a large chunk of the conservative base actively drinks the kool-aid and actively misinforming people is a hundred billion dollar a year industry.
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Does it really matter whether liberals have the same level of passion? Isn't the question which side's policies hurt people and the planet and which side's don't? If both sides are equally passionate, so what? An advocate for the homeless is just as passionate as a serial killer, therefore...?
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beatlegs posted:Does it really matter whether liberals have the same level of passion? Isn't the question which side's policies hurt people and the planet and which side's don't? Who's saying anything about passion? We're talking about how each side resolves cognitive dissonance.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:When Romney lost the presidential election the right decided it was because they weren't far enough to the right. They do that every time they lose. It's preordained.
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Mister Macys posted:I love that bit where he says "Because we're the only ones going back up there (the moon)!", because my money's on China, India... or literally anybody other than the States; to be honest. Yeah, I was thinking he was going to say "we don't need to go back, gently caress the moon. It takes too much vacation time to get there". A glimpse into the mind of the character shows that he knows his line of thinking is a trap. A deadly trap! Reposting the youtube double that delves into his subconscious: http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=h...orName=gently caress+You
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Spaceman Future! posted:Its a real shame. I love the everglades and the keys and coastal regions in Florida, but every time I think about moving there the sheer craziness of the populace kills any motivation I might have to follow through. Which I guess is ok, my nest egg just has Hawaii House written on it instead. That's what really kills me about the South; it's easily one of if not the most beautiful regions in the US, but it's being completely ruined (in every meaning of the word) by everyone who lives there.
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MizPiz posted:That's what really kills me about the South; it's easily one of if not the most beautiful regions in the US, but it's being completely ruined (in every meaning of the word) by everyone who lives there. It's always funny to me when non-southnerners assume that the south is just as pearly white as the rest of the country. More than half of black Americans live in the south. Houston is more diverse than New York. There's this attitude that southerners are all paranoid crazy whites which is just as true of Bumfuck, TN as it is of Bumfuck, OR. e: Please don't move here though, we're full. boner confessor fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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