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Zoness posted:Which makes it nice that it's not efficiently killed by one of the most common kill spells in modern. 2/4 I'm going to toss these into my Prime Speaker Bant deck and I'll probably be throwing it out on the turns I should be playing Polukranos. That way T3 Polu T4 Courser gets that value. And then I slam for five. 
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I don't play standard anymore, but if I have playsets of AOT jace, sphinx's, verdict, and det sphere, that's still a deck, right? Like a really good deck?
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You need some number of Elspeth's and/or Aetherlings but the rest of the cards for UW control are pretty trivial to pick up. On the other hand, you could sell all of that and play in a cool format instead.
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AgentSythe posted:You need some number of Elspeth's and/or Aetherlings but the rest of the cards for UW control are pretty trivial to pick up. On the other hand, you could sell all of that and play in a cool format instead. gently caress selling em, sphinx and verdict are awesome. I already play legacy and modern, but if I have the stuff for standard then why not, right?
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Feb 24, 2014 20:22
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Mortimer posted:gently caress selling em, sphinx and verdict are awesome. I already play legacy and modern, but if I have the stuff for standard then why not, right? It's the principle of the matter. Any format without Uktabi Orangutan is NO FRIEND OF MINE.
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Feb 24, 2014 20:24
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Does Sphinx's see much play in the eternal formats?
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Loving Life Partner posted:Does Sphinx's see much play in the eternal formats? As a one or two of in modern. Same as verdict.
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It's in the UWR Modern decks, but it's way too slow for Legacy or Vintage. Edit: ^^^I believe Miracles ran Supreme Verdict for a time. I also seem to remember Esperblade lists running one or two to deal with Lackey nut draws before Deathrite Shaman killed that dream for Goblin players. It may have been the straight UW Blade lists I'm thinking of, though. Johnny Five-Jaces fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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Feb 24, 2014 20:29
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Stinky Pit posted:If you can't connect with the emotions a person feels when they get close to accomplishing something that means something to them and they fall short then I feel bad for you because you must have lived an incredibly timid and unadventurous life. Clearly the guy just needs to go back and watch Cool Runnings.
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Feb 24, 2014 20:30
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Stinky Pit posted:You could pick up the guts of a Mono Black Dev deck. If you skip on the Mutavaults and Thoughtseizes, the deck's only expensive cards are Pack Rat/Specter/Desecration Demon, all of them under 10 dollars. The issue is that, if you skip on the two best cards in the deck, mono-black is nearly unplayable.
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You'd also need to pick up Lifebane Zombies and Erebos for the sideboard, which aren't cheap either.
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tzirean posted:The issue is that, if you skip on the two best cards in the deck, mono-black is nearly unplayable. This is pretty much the only reason I haven't devolved into a gibbering fool and played Mono Black. I'm too sane to spend $160+ on Mutavaults. For now, anyway.
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Count Bleck posted:This is pretty much the only reason I haven't devolved into a gibbering fool and played Mono Black. Wanna buy a set for $120? :P
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jassi007 posted:Wanna buy a set for $120? :P Still no, I have to buy Dark Souls 2, you know. 
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http://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Morningtide/Idyllic+Tutor#online what happened here.
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Boxman posted:Add [B][B][B] to your mana pool. Target player gains control of your inheritance. RME fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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Feb 24, 2014 20:58
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Enchantment tutor in modern. Probably someone won a game on a stream with 3 people witnessing it and by next week it will be $45. Just part of the inevitable match toward $5,000 decks in the 'accessible' eternal format.
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toadee posted:Enchantment tutor in modern. Probably someone won a game on a stream with 3 people witnessing it and by next week it will be $45. Just part of the inevitable match toward $5,000 decks in the 'accessible' eternal format. I love this game.
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netcat posted:http://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Morningtide/Idyllic+Tutor#online what happened here. Might be the deck I'm playing in Modern, a variation of that Travis Woo deck he won a few matches with on stream. There's lists (to Travis's and Dissolution's, the more well-known player of this archetype) in the Eternal thread.
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toadee posted:Enchantment tutor in modern. Probably someone won a game on a stream with 3 people witnessing it and by next week it will be $45. Just part of the inevitable match toward $5,000 decks in the 'accessible' eternal format. But it's ok cuz if we only had $500 decks in modern it would lose it's collector's appeal. Also something about a special journey.
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Fox of Stone posted:
Something something great sacrifice to enjoy the pleasures of "the good format" something something. And somehow that's fine.
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Fox of Stone posted:But it's ok cuz if we only had $500 decks in modern it would lose it's collector's appeal. Also something about a special journey. It would be bad if they were cheaper because it would hurt Hasbro's bottom line
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toadee posted:Enchantment tutor in modern. Probably someone won a game on a stream with 3 people witnessing it and by next week it will be $45. Just part of the inevitable match toward $5,000 decks in the 'accessible' eternal format. I guess that means now is probably the time to sell...most stores on TCG are up to $10 for lightly played.
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Tharizdun posted:I'm excited for the few weeks before everyone realizes that Courser of Kruphix is a expend-all-resource, "kill on sight" threat on par with a Planeswalker. It's interesting that the two GR monster decks that placed higher at the open actually used other 3 drops instead. I think there are good arguments to be made for fanatic and boon satyr, but some non-zero number of coursers seems right. I realize that commerce chat is very speculative, but what do people think the high is on a non-splashable, very good rare, if courser turns out to have legs? Boxman fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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Modern has caused literally every card I've gone 'eh someday Ill grab some of those' with to become ridiculously priced. gently caress Modern and/or gently caress WoTC for not printing to support it.
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 Kinda neat alter. PYF alter
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toadee posted:Modern has caused literally every card I've gone 'eh someday Ill grab some of those' with to become ridiculously priced. gently caress Modern and/or gently caress WoTC for not printing to support it. WotC is trying. They're just really slow. See: The Shocklands and Thoughtseize.
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pointsofdata posted:It would be bad if they were cheaper because it would hurt Hasbro's bottom line I've still never understood this... Hasbro doesn't sell on the secondary market, and every mom-and-pop I've been to doesn't even have gripfuls of Tarmagoyfs in their case, so it's not like they'd lose anything. And the knock-on effect of more people getting their hands on the money cards is gonna pop all the value uncommons/lower-end rares to make them affordable, too. It's totally  Someday I'm gonna do an effortpost collecting all the chicken-littling along with Bleiweiss's article, proof that reprints spike prices not tank them (at least on originals), etc etc. Until then, at least I won a bet
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Stinky Pit posted:R/G or R/W are going to give a creature based aggro strategy big problems. You could pick up the guts of a Mono Black Dev deck. If you skip on the Mutavaults and Thoughtseizes, the deck's only expensive cards are Pack Rat/Specter/Desecration Demon, all of them under 10 dollars. The piles of removal will do you wonders for the creature dependant R/G and R/W strategies. MonoU is actually better than MonoB against those decks in my experience and it's cheaper to build as the Mutavaults aren't as important as they are in MonoB (though they are still great.) The cost is going to be in Thassa and Master which aren't more than 60 bucks for playsets and Spectors are another 25ish.
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Count Bleck posted:WotC is trying. They're just really slow. Great so by the time I'm 65 there will be a couple of decently priced decks!
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pointsofdata posted:It would be bad if they were cheaper because it would hurt Hasbro's bottom line If cards were cheaper it would mean that they're getting reprinted. I think True Name Nemesis and the entirety of Modern Masters does a pretty good job of showing what happens when wotc prints/reprints money cards, and all of that is going to be people cracking packs and buying precon product, not buying on a secondary market that they have no stake in. On a similar note I'm curious what their plan for Legacy is. As the game continues growing we're going to see more and more people wanting to buy an already small number of dual lands, and I can't imagine the format keeps thriving when mana bases reach 5k by themselves.
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mcmagic posted:MonoU is actually better than MonoB against those decks in my experience and it's cheaper to build as the Mutavaults aren't as important as they are in MonoB (though they are still great.) The cost is going to be in Thassa and Master which aren't more than 60 bucks for playsets and Spectors are another 25ish. I can vouch for this. I have MonoU all sleeved up, no Mutavaults, I just replaced them with 2 islands and an extra copy of AoT and Domestication, deck works fine. Plus the Masters of Waves have been seeing play in non-Standard formats so they should at least retain their value for a while.
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Some guy tried to buy two cases of Magic from a local Long Island store, but when they hadn't shipped out the product and avoided his phone calls and emails, he posted about it on Reddit. The store responded by creating an account to curse him out and posting his personal information on Facebook: In an ironic - and very sad - twist, a few years ago when BluPlanet first opened, I had gone in and promised to help him get his DCI sanctioning. Then I had three close relatives die over the span of three weeks, and completely forgot about him. Later on I found out that he resented me for not helping. So I found his "You'll understand when you have someone close to you die" spiel pretty interesting. So I sympathize with him on knowing how much a death in the family can mess up business practices, but this thing has exploded all over Facebook around here, and he's looking really bad.
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netcat posted:
I like these.    and they are for sale, I have been thinking of buying them for a while.
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toadee posted:Great so by the time I'm 65 there will be a couple of decently priced decks! I feel bad for anyone who bought in to U/B Fae when the prices were absurd. RIP $120 playset of Mistbind Cliques. I don't feel bad for anyone who jumped on them to re-sell at over $10 though.
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Death Bot posted:On a similar note I'm curious what their plan for Legacy is. As the game continues growing we're going to see more and more people wanting to buy an already small number of dual lands, and I can't imagine the format keeps thriving when mana bases reach 5k by themselves. I think their plan for legacy is "continue to push modern." It's very, very obvious their hands are tied by the reserve list, and last I heard, official support for legacy tournaments is barely a trickle. I think they're perfectly happy letting SCG deal with that entire thing.
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Samael posted:I like these. Don't buy these. They are a printed film and the art is not licensed, but stolen and the artist gets nothing.
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Tharizdun posted:I've still never understood this... Hasbro doesn't sell on the secondary market, and every mom-and-pop I've been to doesn't even have gripfuls of Tarmagoyfs in their case, so it's not like they'd lose anything. And the knock-on effect of more people getting their hands on the money cards is gonna pop all the value uncommons/lower-end rares to make them affordable, too. It's totally There's a good point to be made that having the secondary market completely evaporate under all the dealers and LGSs would be terrible for the game, and Hasbro doesn't want that (and neither do we). The problem is that seemingly anytime anyone brings this point up in a debate, it's to make the claim (explicitly or implicitly) that having the prices merely descend back to a reasonable point for in-print card would constitute such complete evaporation and force all the retailers to close up shop rather than just, you know, selling mad amounts of boosters and shocklands (or whatever) and laughing all the way to the bank, or as close to laughing all the way to the bank as small game store owners ever get.
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I like to imagine how absurd modern prices will be when SCG finally switches over and does modern Sundays due to the larger player base. 
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Boxman posted:Add [B][B][B] to your mana pool. The ritual that involves sacrifice (of a creature) gives BBBB. ltp noob. 
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