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vapid cutlery posted:hes going to say pasting his code into the post box in code tags I'm expecting sublime text or something which is swell but a text editor is not an ide even if you can inject some highlighting capabilities into it
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Damiya posted:I'm expecting sublime text or something which is swell but a text editor is not an ide even if you can inject some highlighting capabilities into it im not expecting him to be enough of a retard to not actually know what an ide is since he explicitly said ide, but he is a wintard, so who knows. im almost 30 btw
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Feb 26, 2014 11:22
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vapid cutlery posted:im not expecting him to be enough of a retard to not actually know what an ide is since he explicitly said ide, but he is a wintard, so who knows. im almost 30 btw you have a bad case of the olds
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Feb 26, 2014 11:26
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pointsofdata posted:you have a bad case of the olds you're young trash so you probably love ruby and writing "ActiveRecord pattern libraries" for every single goddamn language you see
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Feb 26, 2014 11:28
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use sublime text 2 for toy scripting langs like python. vs2013 w/python tools if ur doing effort poo poo in python (which you shouldn't be unless ur fixing someone else broken code) don't write java. use c#/vs2013 instead lol @ the idea of suggesting there is a "good ide" for flash/ruby what the gently caress wer eyou thinkging lmao next up in the pos: the Pro Programmers PHP IDE, brought to u by yet more idiot plangers
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Feb 26, 2014 11:32
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lmbo what a pack of retarded trash. "i don't like the language therefore all tools for it are invalid and everyone should write c#" - an idiot babby Damiya fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Feb 26, 2014 11:34
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my favourite part of microsoft technology is the rebrandings. it's like reorgs for people who never had the chance to work there
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Feb 26, 2014 11:36
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vapid cutlery posted:you're young trash so you probably love ruby and writing "ActiveRecord pattern libraries" for every single goddamn language you see i like writing java and fixing other peoples shameful fortran
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Feb 26, 2014 11:37
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regardless of what idiot language you write good tooling is important and going "lmbo these languages are terrible so how dare someone make a good dev environment for them" is sort of the height of yospos head-up-rear end well done forums poster Mr SuperAwesome you've really pushed this thread to new heights.
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Feb 26, 2014 11:39
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Damiya posted:lmbo what a pack of retarded trash. anything that could even tangentially pass as debugging in php is a loving joke, especially on a remote box. debugging in these lovely scripting languages is like watching automotive crash test footage in fast forward. are you kidding me with this poo poo
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Feb 26, 2014 11:41
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Damiya posted:regardless of what idiot language you write good tooling is important and going "lmbo these languages are terrible so how dare someone make a good dev environment for them" is sort of the height of yospos head-up-rear end trying to make a good development environment for them for any reason other than legacy projects (which you naturally way, way overcharge for) is just encouraging people to keep using them.
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Feb 26, 2014 11:43
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vapid cutlery posted:anything that could even tangentially pass as debugging in php is a loving joke, especially on a remote box. debugging in these lovely scripting languages is like watching automotive crash test footage in fast forward. are you kidding me with this poo poo i may be a 6'6" trans non-passing gay woman but gently caress me if you think i'd make the kind of terrible rear end life choices that would lead to debugging PHP in production
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Feb 26, 2014 11:44
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Damiya posted:i may be a 6'6" trans non-passing gay woman but gently caress me if you think i'd make the kind of terrible rear end life choices that would lead to debugging PHP in production i was going to argue but i guess in any php project the only environments are local dev machine and production
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Damiya posted:regardless of what idiot language you write good tooling is important and going "lmbo these languages are terrible so how dare someone make a good dev environment for them" is sort of the height of yospos head-up-rear end this is not what im saying at all, good tools are important, languages are just as much a tool as the IDE. lovely langs with lovely tools are still lovely and ur a fuckin idiot if u use them like, hypothetically, lets say intellijidea or whatever is the best IDE ever for Adobe Flash technologies (like u said) and its better than literally other IDE ever, regardless, ur still writing loving flash soooooooo
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Feb 26, 2014 11:51
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programming is gay, no offence Damiya
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Feb 26, 2014 11:53
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:this is not what im saying at all, good tools are important, languages are just as much a tool as the IDE. lovely langs with lovely tools are still lovely and ur a fuckin idiot if u use them java is fine as is python for little things
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:this is not what im saying at all, good tools are important, languages are just as much a tool as the IDE. lovely langs with lovely tools are still lovely and ur a fuckin idiot if u use them it's the best java ide and therefore pretty usefull
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also, an ide is p much pointless with a non statically typed language imo, ymmv
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Feb 26, 2014 11:54
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if your job makes you write lovely code in lovely langs with lovely tools maybe its the job and your idiot managers that suck. if your entire company immediately swtiched to writing PHP in notepad.exe u'd be mad as hell. moore's law + teh cloud + decent expressive langs means if you're not retarded and using correct tools and correct architecture it doesn't really matter what you're doing as long as u can write good code that gets poo poo done (conveniently ruling plangs other than glue code, flash (lmao why the gently caress did you write that), java (lol), etc etc etc)
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Feb 26, 2014 11:56
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pointsofdata posted:java is fine as is python for little things you hosed up
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Feb 26, 2014 11:57
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java is c# for idiots
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Feb 26, 2014 11:57
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:java is c# for idiots c# is java for people who want to spend more money
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lol if you have to pay for mircosoft stuff, get your job/clients to do that.
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mostly lol if you are coding without there being enough money in it to make any tools rounding errors in the overall cost, get a more fun career if you are ok with poor pay
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:mostly lol if you are coding without there being enough money in it to make any tools rounding errors in the overall cost, get a more fun career if you are ok with poor pay your mom was a rounding error in the overall cost
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Feb 26, 2014 12:39
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wit dat pancake rear end
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Feb 26, 2014 12:39
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seriously if youi're not using the proper tools give the gently caress up and get another job don't spend ur life writing fuckin horrible code that does nothing jesus who cares how much it costs make someone else pay for you or just steal it; its 2014 yospos bithc
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Feb 26, 2014 12:40
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poo poo, someone start talking about 'nads again. whisper sweet functional code to me, and i will reply "lol wut"
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Deacon of Delicious posted:poo poo, someone start talking about 'nads again. whisper sweet functional code to me, and i will reply "lol wut" http://www.valuedlessons.com/2008/01/monads-in-python-with-nice-syntax.html
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oh. well, "thanks"
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oh, excuse me. i meant, "monads in python? lol wut"
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here's my bf interpreter that uses monads (mostly State), lens and lots of unsafe code* that will crash on invalid inputs (negative tape index, unexpected end of input) http://lpaste.net/100390 I did it for a timed contest but since my Tape type is essentially a list zipper I'd quite like to use lens-zipper in place of rolling my own if I can ever be bothered lens lets me do operations on the state like cmdCount += 1 where cmdCount is a field of the state which is much nicer than the alternatives * mostly stuff like let Just x = ... gonadic io fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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AlsoD posted:operations on the state like cmdCount += 1 [...] is much nicer than the alternatives that's what us imperative programmers have been saying for years
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are people using c# for things outside little departmental websites and windows GUIs (we use it to make panels full of buttons and graphs that trigger our trading services) like there are no significant desktop applications written in c# are there and there aren't many big popular websites written in c# (I can't think of any offhand) c# is nowhere in mobile I don't think anyone uses it for embedded I hear it's a good language but I don't write dinky websites or windows UIs so I can't be bothered to take an interest
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Internaut! posted:and there aren't many big popular websites written in c# (I can't think of any offhand) what defines "big popular websites"? i used to work at a place that took in millions of dollars a day selling business cards and tchotchkes with c# sites and applications
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Damiya posted:i may be a 6'6" trans non-passing gay woman  
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Internaut! posted:and there aren't many big popular websites written in c# (I can't think of any offhand) snack overflow
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plucky little microsoft never stops trying, but one day someone will try out their neat little asp.net thing and discover that it works 
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c# can be decompiled almost verbatim with one click so that kinda puts a damper on using it to ship commercial client-side applications also i tried using IDEA for a bit and it kept loving up my whitespace even when I asked it not to so I uninstalled it Have you tried Netbeans lately? It's actually not-stupid out of the box and seems to suit my needs pretty well. I imported a Maven project into it from a Git working directory and it pretty much knew what was up, indentation used four spaces and no ASCII TABs with an extra four spaces for wrapped lines. To get all that poo poo configured correctly in Eclipse or IDEA would have taken a lot of clicking around in menus and then a whole bunch more work to make it easy for any collaborators to have the exact same settings.
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Internaut! posted:are people using c# for things outside little departmental websites and windows GUIs (we use it to make panels full of buttons and graphs that trigger our trading services) how many of these "popular websites" are written in PHP, CSS, HTML, JS, Flash, or Java? how many "significant desktop apps" are written in java or some other hilarious monstrosity thats even worse how many mobile telephones run Java? (wide use doens't imply quality, see: java, flash, php, js) seriously i don't know why you idiots keep on using these bad languages. they're super lovely
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