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Sadi
Jan 18, 2005
SC - Where there are more rednecks than people

bowling 4 buttcoins posted:

Why not just get her an intake?

All she wants is the sound. I don't want to add a hot air intake, or reduce the filtering ability of her car. The tube seems like a cheap easy way to add sound with out hurting anything else.

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mattwhoo
Aug 26, 2009
You can have mine if you want to trade me a tube delete kit.

Sadi
Jan 18, 2005
SC - Where there are more rednecks than people
Sounds good to me. Continue discussion via email?

Sadi fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Feb 17, 2014

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



When jacking the car, do you put the floor jack under the pinch welds or what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgrOdNj8n4&t=53s

I tried that but felt like I was going to shatter the rocker trim.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Bumming Your Scene posted:

When jacking the car, do you put the floor jack under the pinch welds or what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgrOdNj8n4&t=53s

I tried that but felt like I was going to shatter the rocker trim.

The manual says there's a jack notch next to each wheel.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

kalvick posted:

Back in 1999 to 2004, the Steeda short throw shifter was the "Mandatory First Mod" if you bought a stick Mustang!

Will this help smooth out crunchy 1-2 shifts or are my synchros just hosed?

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



Cocoa Crispies posted:

The manual says there's a jack notch next to each wheel.

There are but a regular circle pad on a floor jack is kind of a janky way to lift there. Just went ahead and bought a pinch weld adapter

http://amzn.com/B00H3U710W

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

clutchpuck posted:

Will this help smooth out crunchy 1-2 shifts or are my synchros just hosed?

Synchros are most likely hosed.

AWWNAW
Dec 30, 2008

Auron posted:

Synchros are most likely hosed.

I took my 13 GT to the dealer and finally got them to agree that it grinds going from first to second, but they told me that all of them do that. Thanks I guess.

mattwhoo
Aug 26, 2009

AWWNAW posted:

I took my 13 GT to the dealer and finally got them to agree that it grinds going from first to second, but they told me that all of them do that. Thanks I guess.

Yeah gently caress them! I can assure you they don't all do that.

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



Grind or clunk? They all clunk or snag, but it is reduced if you can bring the stick straight back without riding it along the left side of the gate, and this is with an MGW shifter.

Somewhat related, anyone with a 13/14 tell me if I'm being OCD or not? It feels like my steering wheel is like 2 degrees off or something because I can see a little bit more of the steering column on one side than the other.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4z6ywrmb65nfbue/IMG_20140221_164958394.jpg

That's driving straight

Longpig Bard fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Feb 22, 2014

bowling 4 buttcoins
Mar 13, 2011

Bumming Your Scene posted:

Grind or clunk? They all clunk or snag, but it is reduced if you can bring the stick straight back without riding it along the left side of the gate, and this is with an MGW shifter.

Somewhat related, anyone with a 13/14 tell me if I'm being OCD or not? It feels like my steering wheel is like 2 degrees off or something because I can see a little bit more of the steering column on one side than the other.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4z6ywrmb65nfbue/IMG_20140221_164958394.jpg

That's driving straight

Looks like you're taking it in! A bunch of these cars were aligned on a thursday, steering wheel must have been off during an alignment, an easy fix.

Anyone got any information on how I'm suppose to install this Roush BAP? I know it comes with the Stage 3 VMP/Roush/Whipple kit but I'm using it for my Paxton. Ordered some breathers to switch from my oil separator and a Paxton Maxflow Race BOV to settle my jimmies down about not getting the torque booster.

Maybe the install will finally happen?

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



I haven't noticed it before but I probably banged it out of alignment on the track last weekend

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007
I was driving my '12 V6 in a civilized manner a couple of hours ago and noticed that the TCS OFF and TCS ACTIVE lights went on for a few seconds simultaneously, on a flat piece of road, with me barely touching the gas petal.

There was no indication of anything being wrong with the car or any evidence of the TCS activating, it was just coasting along and the lights went away after ~5 seconds or so...

Any ideas goons?

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

Can anyone from a snow belt region chime in on whether RWD is doable? The new Mustang is one of a few cars I'm looking at, but it's been ages since I've driven a RWD, and driving in winter around here can be a white knuckle experience under the best of circumstances.

Industrial
May 31, 2001

Everyone here wishes I would ragequit my life

Folderol posted:

Can anyone from a snow belt region chime in on whether RWD is doable? The new Mustang is one of a few cars I'm looking at, but it's been ages since I've driven a RWD, and driving in winter around here can be a white knuckle experience under the best of circumstances.

It depends on your commute. I drove a Mustang for 4 years in Minneapolis and when I drove 8 miles down a major road it was totally fine as long as you're careful. Once my commute involved back roads and driving up a small hill I felt like I was taking my life into my hands and traded it for an F-150.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
The new mustang will have a bunch more hp than my 04 but with snow tires its not a big deal at all. With most all seasons or any summer tire you might as well be driving on plastic rings. You going for a manual or auto?

Sandbags in the back helps in general, but especially when you're starting from a stop.

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

Industrial posted:

It depends on your commute. I drove a Mustang for 4 years in Minneapolis and when I drove 8 miles down a major road it was totally fine as long as you're careful. Once my commute involved back roads and driving up a small hill I felt like I was taking my life into my hands and traded it for an F-150.

Thanks, that's actually super helpful. My commute is about 20 minutes of highway driving, but it's hilly and can be scary sloppy after a snow, heavy trucks going by at high speed while passenger cars struggle to stay in lane. Sound like I should consider crossing the GT off my list. :smith:

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

Cage posted:

The new mustang will have a bunch more hp than my 04 but with snow tires its not a big deal at all. With most all seasons or any summer tire you might as well be driving on plastic rings. You going for a manual or auto?

Sandbags in the back helps in general, but especially when you're starting from a stop.

I would be going manual, and would definitely have a dedicated set of snows (as I do now).

Bulk Vanderhuge
May 2, 2009

womp womp womp womp

Folderol posted:

Thanks, that's actually super helpful. My commute is about 20 minutes of highway driving, but it's hilly and can be scary sloppy after a snow, heavy trucks going by at high speed while passenger cars struggle to stay in lane. Sound like I should consider crossing the GT off my list. :smith:

Snow tires will make all the difference, after that ride height will be the only other limiting factor. Modern traction and stability control were made for these kind of conditions, it's really not a big deal.

Indecision1991
Sep 13, 2012

Bulk Vanderhuge posted:

Snow tires will make all the difference, after that ride height will be the only other limiting factor. Modern traction and stability control were made for these kind of conditions, it's really not a big deal.

I have a buddy who hates american cars and has the audi "quattro" stick up his rear end that any mention of me buying a future american muscle car gets him going into a rant of how much he hates domestic cars. His main argument is that AWD, quattro specifically, is the only way to drive a car in the snow. I always tell him that AWD is great for getting moving (snow tires do the same) but AWD wont help for stopping which is where you need the help the most.

What do you guys normally tell people who hate on mustangs and to that extent muscle cars in general?

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Don't really tell them anything, just show them my tail lights

Indecision1991
Sep 13, 2012

Tide posted:

Don't really tell them anything, just show them my tail lights

Haha, thats usually what I think but dont have a car to prove it. I am stoked to see the 2015 mustang, I am just hoping I can fit in it as a tall driver. I havent kept up 100% with all the latest news but has there been any new info about the 2015?

igv9
Sep 3, 2006
Everything witty I could put here has already been said.
The snow thing is funny because I moved from Texas up to the east coast and had people tell me I couldn't drive my mustang in the winter because it was a sports car. Funny thing that since I have snow tires for it and a rear LSD so I have two tires hook up where most everyone else is driving the cheapest available SUV/truck with open differentials and all seasons.

Unless the snow is high enough that clearance is the issue how are my two back wheels driving me going to be worse than a truck with one wheel driving it? Tires are important and I run summers when it's warm and snows when it's cold and haven't had any more issue than any other vehicle out there. Modern traction control keeps me from doing anything stupid, but I run it in sports mode always so I can rear end steer around corners.

mechaet
Jan 4, 2013

Insufferable measure of firewood

Indecision1991 posted:

What do you guys normally tell people who hate on mustangs and to that extent muscle cars in general?

You don't need AWD if you're not a moron.

mechaet
Jan 4, 2013

Insufferable measure of firewood

Indecision1991 posted:

Haha, thats usually what I think but dont have a car to prove it. I am stoked to see the 2015 mustang, I am just hoping I can fit in it as a tall driver. I havent kept up 100% with all the latest news but has there been any new info about the 2015?

Define "tall".

If you're over 6'6" you'll want to get a replacement seat/track (can be had from Corbeau for a total price <500 dollars) and put the seat at the very bottom of the track position. If you're over 6'2" and want to be able to wear a helmet in the car, same solution.

Indecision1991
Sep 13, 2012

igv9 posted:

The snow thing is funny because I moved from Texas up to the east coast and had people tell me I couldn't drive my mustang in the winter because it was a sports car. Funny thing that since I have snow tires for it and a rear LSD so I have two tires hook up where most everyone else is driving the cheapest available SUV/truck with open differentials and all seasons.

Unless the snow is high enough that clearance is the issue how are my two back wheels driving me going to be worse than a truck with one wheel driving it? Tires are important and I run summers when it's warm and snows when it's cold and haven't had any more issue than any other vehicle out there. Modern traction control keeps me from doing anything stupid, but I run it in sports mode always so I can rear end steer around corners.

I plan on moving from SoCal to the east coast as soon as I am done with school and this was always my concern with buying a sports car now and moving later.

mechaet posted:

You don't need AWD if you're not a moron.



God I love the GT...Any tips for someone who plans to move out to snow infested areas within the next year?

mechaet posted:

Define "tall".

If you're over 6'6" you'll want to get a replacement seat/track (can be had from Corbeau for a total price <500 dollars) and put the seat at the very bottom of the track position. If you're over 6'2" and want to be able to wear a helmet in the car, same solution.

I am 6'5" and my legs are the longer part of me. I sat in the current gen mustang and I was a bit tight.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Indecision1991 posted:

God I love the GT...Any tips for someone who plans to move out to snow infested areas within the next year

A winter beater. Even in a climate that really if ever sees snow, I've always had $2-3k or less beater SUV or truck, hell a corolla as well. My reasoning was part to keep the miles off my mustang or when I couldn't drive it due to maintenance, upgrades, or the few times it was down for repair/broke something A second vehicle is just handy to have anyway.

But I've always been lucky to have the space for a second or third spot to put the extra vehicle.

Indecision1991
Sep 13, 2012

Tide posted:

A winter beater. Even in a climate that really if ever sees snow, I've always had $2-3k or less beater SUV or truck, hell a corolla as well. My reasoning was part to keep the miles off my mustang or when I couldn't drive it due to maintenance, upgrades, or the few times it was down for repair/broke something A second vehicle is just handy to have anyway.

But I've always been lucky to have the space for a second or third spot to put the extra vehicle.

That is what I was thinking as well. Do old jeeps work well for this? I heard they last forever and are great for that sort of thing.

mechaet
Jan 4, 2013

Insufferable measure of firewood

Indecision1991 posted:

I plan on moving from SoCal to the east coast as soon as I am done with school and this was always my concern with buying a sports car now and moving later.


God I love the GT...Any tips for someone who plans to move out to snow infested areas within the next year?


I am 6'5" and my legs are the longer part of me. I sat in the current gen mustang and I was a bit tight.

Snow tips (some are general driving-in-snow advice):

You'll notice I have on chains on the rear wheels. That was because at the time I was stupidly running the stock Pirellis. I have since switched over to a dedicated set of snow tires. No chains required, and you can switch over to Sport mode stability control and hang the rear end end around any corner you wish; lift to recover if you're not good at sliding... it's a tad jerky on the self-recovery but completely manageable.

Clear off the windows. Visibility is your biggest ally.

Clear the snow off the car as much as possible. You do not want the guy behind you sitting in a whiteout you created, not able to see you stopping/turning/etc.

I start off from dead stops in second gear (I have 3.73s, but this should be applicable to any stock-geared current-gen Mustang), using the clutch to get moving slowly before letting it all the way out.

Rather than bags or boxes of useless cargo, kitty litter (the sand-texture kind). Doubles as a good way to get unstuck if you find yourself in a bad situation since the kitty litter will both suck up moisture and provide gritty surface to get traction on. I also pile food and water into the back because I'm paranoid of getting stranded on road trips without food and water.

You can accelerate from a dead stop about twice as fast as you can stop from a roll. Always keep this in mind. I have narrowly avoided getting rear-ended twice by moving forward to provide extra stopping room for the idiot behind me.

If you're going to use chains, keep in mind they do make chains for low-profile tires. Make absolutely sure to get the right size, because if the chain flings off it will scratch your paint. I've never experienced this, but have been told repeatedly.

Treat the gas pedal like it's made out of eggshells. Same goes for the brakes. Anti-Lock braking is great in a panic situation because you don't have to think but for best stopping distances I prefer to edge right up to where ABS kicks in and teeter right on that edge. Find a parking lot and do some starting/stopping exercises to figure out how this works in your car.

The best tire I have found for this car in the winter is the Pirelli Sottozero; they are hellaciously pricey, but worth their weight in gold. Excellent lateral traction, very sure-footed. It is also the stock tire Ford puts on the Brembo-equipped Mustangs when they are delivered during winter time.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Indecision1991 posted:

That is what I was thinking as well. Do old jeeps work well for this? I heard they last forever and are great for that sort of thing.

Probably nothing better than a jeep, particularly a XJ. Huge aftermarket, cheap, engines (4.0L in line 6) that will run with sand as a lubricant instead of oil, easy to wrench on. Probably one of the best modern vehicles to learn to wrench

Zeroboy
Feb 21, 2001
So it's winter and time for some upgrades..

Quick recap, I started with this
My 2011 GT


Added this
Borla ATAK axleback


I had this from my 05 GT


So I can upload the tune to run this


Then to top it off I picked up a Roush UCA to put it down to the ground a little better..



And now I wait for this terrible Minnesota winter to go away..

Geology
Nov 6, 2005

Zeroboy posted:

Added this
Borla ATAK axleback


Are you running this with the stock H-pipe? If so I would love to hear a sound clip.

I have the MagnaFlow Street mufflers with an offroad X-pipe which was obnoxious loud, but too quiet with the cats on. Hoping the ATAK is a nice compromise.

Indecision1991
Sep 13, 2012

mechaet posted:

Snow tips (some are general driving-in-snow advice):

You'll notice I have on chains on the rear wheels. That was because at the time I was stupidly running the stock Pirellis. I have since switched over to a dedicated set of snow tires. No chains required, and you can switch over to Sport mode stability control and hang the rear end end around any corner you wish; lift to recover if you're not good at sliding... it's a tad jerky on the self-recovery but completely manageable.

Clear off the windows. Visibility is your biggest ally.

Clear the snow off the car as much as possible. You do not want the guy behind you sitting in a whiteout you created, not able to see you stopping/turning/etc.

I start off from dead stops in second gear (I have 3.73s, but this should be applicable to any stock-geared current-gen Mustang), using the clutch to get moving slowly before letting it all the way out.

Rather than bags or boxes of useless cargo, kitty litter (the sand-texture kind). Doubles as a good way to get unstuck if you find yourself in a bad situation since the kitty litter will both suck up moisture and provide gritty surface to get traction on. I also pile food and water into the back because I'm paranoid of getting stranded on road trips without food and water.

You can accelerate from a dead stop about twice as fast as you can stop from a roll. Always keep this in mind. I have narrowly avoided getting rear-ended twice by moving forward to provide extra stopping room for the idiot behind me.

If you're going to use chains, keep in mind they do make chains for low-profile tires. Make absolutely sure to get the right size, because if the chain flings off it will scratch your paint. I've never experienced this, but have been told repeatedly.

Treat the gas pedal like it's made out of eggshells. Same goes for the brakes. Anti-Lock braking is great in a panic situation because you don't have to think but for best stopping distances I prefer to edge right up to where ABS kicks in and teeter right on that edge. Find a parking lot and do some starting/stopping exercises to figure out how this works in your car.

The best tire I have found for this car in the winter is the Pirelli Sottozero; they are hellaciously pricey, but worth their weight in gold. Excellent lateral traction, very sure-footed. It is also the stock tire Ford puts on the Brembo-equipped Mustangs when they are delivered during winter time.

Thanks for the tips. I will keep this in mind for when I decide to move.

Tide posted:

Probably nothing better than a jeep, particularly a XJ. Huge aftermarket, cheap, engines (4.0L in line 6) that will run with sand as a lubricant instead of oil, easy to wrench on. Probably one of the best modern vehicles to learn to wrench

Yea, I thanks for confirming that my jeep thought was a good one. I always kinda liked jeep so having one for snow days will be great.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

Bumming Your Scene posted:

Grind or clunk? They all clunk or snag, but it is reduced if you can bring the stick straight back without riding it along the left side of the gate, and this is with an MGW shifter.

It's like a quick "clack" as I select into second, and it sort of snags out of 1st. Being careful about bringing it straight back has helped, I think I was subconsciously pushing it left as I shifted.

Zeroboy
Feb 21, 2001

Geology posted:

Are you running this with the stock H-pipe? If so I would love to hear a sound clip.

I have the MagnaFlow Street mufflers with an offroad X-pipe which was obnoxious loud, but too quiet with the cats on. Hoping the ATAK is a nice compromise.

Yeah everything else is stock still, I'm thinking of running an x-pipe but haven't made up my mind yet. It's pretty loud when you get on it but if you drive normally its pretty mellow and doesn't drone at all on the highway. I found a "used" item on Amazon for only $600 which I thought was a steal, especially when it arrived and it clearly had never been installed.

I don't have any sound videos yet but maybe when it warms up a little It's been 0 degrees for like the last 3 months here in Minneapolis, and I haven't even started it since early November.

I was going to go with the Roush axleback but this video made me second guess myself.

Skip the first 44 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQh5D2fvoG0

Lots of approval from everyone I've talked to.

Indecision1991
Sep 13, 2012
Do you guys think the 2.3L turbo for the 2015 year is going to bring in new mustang fans? What do you guys think of the 2.3 in a mustang? I have discussed it with some car friends and their consensus is that its not a mustang unless it has a GT tag and that V8. I am interested in the 2.3 but wont lie that the V8 is very tempting.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





There's been a 2.3L turbocharged Mustang before, and it sure looks like a proper Mustang to me.

Indecision1991
Sep 13, 2012

IOwnCalculus posted:

There's been a 2.3L turbocharged Mustang before, and it sure looks like a proper Mustang to me.



Exactly why it doesn't bother me. I am more excited for the possibilities of what the 2.3 can potentially do.

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Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Indecision1991 posted:

Do you guys think the 2.3L turbo for the 2015 year is going to bring in new mustang fans? What do you guys think of the 2.3 in a mustang? I have discussed it with some car friends and their consensus is that its not a mustang unless it has a GT tag and that V8. I am interested in the 2.3 but wont lie that the V8 is very tempting.

I like it from the perspective of being something different.

Personally, I would have preferred the ecoboost twin turbo V6 that's in the Taurus SHO and F150 but that would have run too close with the marquee V8 in terms of performance numbers. With just a bit of tuning, that Ecoboost twin turbo 6 makes some seriously good numbers. I think if the V8 had remained a pushrod V8 or even the old 3 valver, it would do wonders with the Mustang image is being 'with the times'. But the 32 valve Coyote V8 is such an outstanding motor, one the best ever produced IMHO.

It's awfully hard to get away from 'A Mustang MUST have a V8', and in large part I agree with it - mostly in terms of how it sounds. The signature and heart and soul of a Mustang is how it sounds. And that's hard to get away from that and something no 4 cylinder can ever touch. It's that glorious underwater rumble at idle that gets my pecker poking out.

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