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Senor Tron posted:Their little camp makes me wonder why they aren't sleeping in trees. Sure it's not comfortable, but with a cushion and rope to tie themselves up they would be completely out of reach of walkers. Probably because on the ground you have a chance to get away, but if you sleep in a tree and wake up surrounded by walkers, you're there until you die.
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Cbear posted:This thread is hard to read sometimes. Was it a great episode? No. Could they have done better with it? Sure. I'll take a little slow and boring over aggressively stupid, like them 86'ing the Gov's redemption story for no reason whatsoever an hour and twenty minutes into it. messagemode1 posted:I'm not a big fan of Beth's acting, it always kind of takes me out of it. She did so badly at faking her first drink, in particular with it being Moonshine, I honestly thought she must have never had a drink in real life before. The whole scene is: [Calmly] "This is vile. Oh, second sip is fine." No reaction to the burn, no choking down the first several hits, she acted like she was drinking a nice glass of water. Amusingly I got told she was 28 before that discussion even happened on these forums, which was a shock. Not only does she look much younger, I figured her not being drinking age was the reason for everything I just wrote. Now, I just have no idea. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:Daryl and Beth realize they're on a TV show called The Walking Dead. They realize they can waste whatever supplies they want because as soon as dramatic tension demands they have a particular thing, someone will say 'I think I saw some back in that old <building>, time to go on a run' and they'll have it. Beth was waxing philosophical about her own death because she realizes this is the most character development she's ever had and we all know what happens to background characters who suddenly get a bunch of lines. Well considering Kirkman just threw Reedus a movie role it might be a consolation prize for getting killed off in the Walking Dead. Considering how long it takes to film a movie and how quickly filming has to happen for TWD its a safe bet Daryl is dead by the end of this season.
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Blazing Ownager posted:
I guess you could try to explain it away as her trying to have big balls in front Daryl? But more likely it's just that she's one of the weaker actors on the show. Despite her being 28 in real life, it looks like she hasn't had all that much experience. Also, regarding the Country Club: they mentioned on the Talking Dead that the "lynchings" were a result of a "class struggle" between the club members and the staff who were holed up inside, implying that the rich people were acting dickish to the staff despite their economic status suddenly becoming moot, to the point that the staff snapped and murdered the poo poo out of them. Maybe it was a commentary on current political issues, but I think it was also included to show that Daryl was kind of Ok with whatever had gone down there due to having such a crappy life right next to people who are wearing a single piece of jewelry worth more than his childhood home, which is why he was busting the place up a bit, throwing darts, and freaked out on Beth about her having a pony, etc. You know, before he progressed to the grief- and guilt-stricken portion of his meltdown.
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Mar 3, 2014 18:09
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Blazing Ownager posted:She did so badly at faking her first drink, in particular with it being Moonshine, I honestly thought she must have never had a drink in real life before. The whole scene is: [Calmly] "This is vile. Oh, second sip is fine." No reaction to the burn, no choking down the first several hits, she acted like she was drinking a nice glass of water. This is what drinking is portrayed like in 99% of TV/movies. Alcohol never burns going down, people never almost gag after taking a shot/drink, and everyone can down a glass of anything in a few seconds with no problem. VDay fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Mar 3, 2014 19:01
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The alcohol realism is nitpicking, even. She just doesn't sell any of her feelings to me, maybe in part because her neutral face looks vacant, or because she's a 28 yo acting like a cute 14 year old.
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Mar 3, 2014 19:40
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I feel like I just watched someone's Daryl/Beth fanfiction.
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Concerning what happened in the country club: On Talking Dead there was a pop-up info segment saying that the remains of the CC were from a class struggle that took place between the rich members taking refuge there and the employees of the club. I'd still like to know what the hell "welcome to the dogtrot" meant. I know that a DG is usually an open air walkway in the middle of a home but I'm kind of lost to its meaning here. Perhaps the rich lived in the lower levels of the spacious facility and restricted the help to the upper area that we saw first?
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Mar 3, 2014 19:57
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My favorite scene in this episode was where Beth was hugging Daryl and it looked like the tree was hugging the zombie pinned to it.  Perhaps it foreshadows Daryl's death? Overall, not a bad episode. There wasn't any progression, but it was nice seeing all the little tricks that they had to do to survive as well as the psychological toll that governor's attack has taken on Daryl and Beth.
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Mar 3, 2014 20:01
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Soulwrangler posted:Concerning what happened in the country club: On Talking Dead their was a pop-up info segment saying that the remains of the CC were from a class struggle that took place between the rich members taking refuge there and the employees of the club. I'd still like to know what the hell "welcome to the dogtrot" meant. I know that a DG is usually an open air walkway in the middle of a home but I'm kind of lost to its meaning here. Perhaps the rich lived in the lower levels of the spacious facility and restricted the help to the upper area that we saw first? Hell, that's a story that sounds much more interesting than anything we've seen lately. They should show that.
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Soulwrangler posted:Concerning what happened in the country club: On Talking Dead their was a pop-up info segment saying that the remains of the CC were from a class struggle that took place between the rich members taking refuge there and the employees of the club. I'd still like to know what the hell "welcome to the dogtrot" meant. I know that a DG is usually an open air walkway in the middle of a home but I'm kind of lost to its meaning here. Perhaps the rich lived in the lower levels of the spacious facility and restricted the help to the upper area that we saw first? I'm going to speculate there were a number of club goers with dogs and an argument ensued as to the dogs' viability, either as unnecessary consumers or a possible food source. Said dog owners objected and wound up dead. "Welcome to Dogtrot" is pretty much the same as "gently caress you people putting the needs of animals over people in a survival situation" as a warning to the others. Or, you know, a mutated strain of cray cray.
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Mar 3, 2014 20:30
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The dogtrot in question is probably not referencing literally an open air walkway or porch between buildings/rooms, but how it is normally meant as a separation of the nicer living quarters from the food preparation area. In this case it was likely illustrating the divide between the posh bar area of the country club where the 'rich bitch' people were living from the kitchen area where presumably all the 'help' were crammed together.
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Mar 3, 2014 20:44
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Senor Tron posted:Their little camp makes me wonder why they aren't sleeping in trees. Sure it's not comfortable, but with a cushion and rope to tie themselves up they would be completely out of reach of walkers. I'm pretty sure people in this thread, or maybe one of the earlier threads, have suggested they build a tree city. Which would be pretty cool. I freaking loved the house in the Swiss Family Robinson movie when I was little. Or, like, the tree houses in myst. I am the girl version of a man-child. SunknLiner posted:Probably because on the ground you have a chance to get away, but if you sleep in a tree and wake up surrounded by walkers, you're there until you die. McGrady posted:The dogtrot in question is probably not referencing literally an open air walkway or porch between buildings/rooms, but how it is normally meant as a separation of the nicer living quarters from the food preparation area. In this case it was likely illustrating the divide between the posh bar area of the country club where the 'rich bitch' people were living from the kitchen area where presumably all the 'help' were crammed together. This is an awesome explanation. I have never heard of a dogtrot and just figured that's what the survivors decided to call it or something. Bored fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Mar 3, 2014 21:13
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They started the episode salvaging shards of glass and hubcabs and ended it burning down a cabin full of alcohol and a loving distillery.
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Mar 3, 2014 21:18
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If I was suicidally depressed over losing everything I've known as my only lifeline in this horrible bleak apocalypse, getting drunk and burning something down sounds like heaven. edit: also yeah Beth's moonshine face was The Worst Bit of Acting Kasonic fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Mar 3, 2014 21:22
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socialsecurity posted:They started the episode salvaging shards of glass and hubcabs and ended it burning down a cabin full of alcohol and a loving distillery. Stop thinking so hard. Stop thinking.
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VDay posted:This is what drinking is portrayed like in 99% of TV/movies. Alcohol never burns going down, people never almost gag after taking a shot/drink, and everyone can down a glass of anything in a few seconds with no problem. I don't drink and live in a country where prohibition never happened but still know how I should react to drinking moonshine. It's not like she had a glass of wine.
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Mar 3, 2014 21:45
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I'm only suggesting this because I think the "walking into a tableau that tells a story" pattern is getting a little old, but what if the cold opens actually went back to pre-apocalypse, or possibly right at the infection point? You tell a five minute story that ends with the "rich bitch" getting stabbed to death in the basement or something. Then you go to the intro and it's Daryl and Beth saying they need to go exploring, they find the golf course, etc. I remember liking the corpses they found of the soldiers (?) with the governor when he takes the raiding party out and they have signs like "LIAR" or "RAPIST."
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I haven't checked into the thread since before the mid season finale. I really really liked the first 8 this season. That being said......what the gently caress happened? It's loving terrible again. Every single episode since they have come back has been way more bad than good. The writing is terrible and the direction isn't much better. I can't tell if the actress who plays Beth is just terrible, or if she is just doing what she can with what they give her, and shes being poorly directed on top of it. Daryl's drunk meltdown where he started pissing on the floor was SO BAD. I could go on and on but it just sucks seeing it fall back to all the old problems again after seeming to get their poo poo together on these first 8 episodes.
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This half of the season has had 3 boring episodes with not much happening and one average one. They really did pull the season 2 writers out of the closet didn't they? Last nights episode is down as one of the most boring episodes I've seen.
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Jut posted:This half of the season has had 3 boring episodes with not much happening and one average one. They really did pull the season 2 writers out of the closet didn't they? It was boring, and also unintentionally hilarious but not in a endearing way that I can laugh at and still love the show. More like I kept facepalming at the loving dumb lines and the terrible delivery of those lines in a "oh man this is so loving stupid and terrible what is happening???" way. Which one was the average one? Ha ha god this is just such a bummer after feeling like they had finally figured out how to make the show really good. STAC Goat posted:I dug the episode. They're using these episodes for character development with little plot and that's fine with me because this has never been a plot driven show. It's always been a slow burn character show and four seasons in some people still seem to be waiting for some meta plot to begin. The problem is the character development is terribly written at least in these second half episodes. I prefer a more character intense story anyways, but what this show is doing is garbage. It's just so cringe inducing. As I watch the episode I can SEE what the writer/director was going for, but it's just so poorly executed. I don't give a drat what the show wants to be but can they please just make a decision one way or the other and make it not lovely? ApexAftermath fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Mar 3, 2014 23:43
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Who was winding the grandfather clock to keep it running?
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That sixteen year old girl is really good at chugging moonshine and holding her liquor. She should give Daryl lessons.
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FogHelmut posted:Who was winding the grandfather clock to keep it running? Self-winding clocks can last for a while.
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RBA Starblade posted:That sixteen year old girl is really good at chugging moonshine and holding her liquor. She should give Daryl lessons. I usually try not to nitpick stuff like this but yeah this was just dumb. It's loving moonshine and shes never drank before. It's actually weirder that she doesn't have a "BLECH!" reaction on the first drink not only because that would be more realistic, but also you would think her reacting hard to the first drink would be something that would play with general audiences for a cheap laugh.
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RBA Starblade posted:That sixteen year old girl is really good at chugging moonshine and holding her liquor. She should give Daryl lessons. It was really the worst first drink reaction I've ever seen.
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Trunk scene was great and the rest was pretty funny. On purpose even! Beth asking if Daryl had ever done anything stupid while drunk and then getting drunk and burning down the cabin was funny! It wasn't perfect but I loved that this episode never cut away from Beth and Daryl, this is what I was hoping this whole half of the season was going to be. Bulkiest Toaster posted:This half of the the season has been pretty good but the fact that every episode has been a short self contained short story with no forward movement of the overall plot has been annoying. Rageaholic Monkey posted:kind of a stupid thing for them to do but at least it was fun to watch.
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Reminalt posted:We all know what happens to people who get character development. I have been thinking the same exact thing. I dont think it will be Daryl because he is such a huge fan favorite. Michonne has been getting a lot of character development as well as beth. Maybe we will get a double whammy.
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Mar 4, 2014 02:17
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The real question should be: what cartoon were Daryl and co. watching?
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Dwarf posted:The real question should be: what cartoon were Daryl and co. watching? The only answer can be Looney Tunes.
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Ren and Stimpy
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FogHelmut posted:Who was winding the grandfather clock to keep it running? If a grandfather clock is on its side then the pendulum cannot swing freely, so the internal mechanism stops unwinding, which stops the clock. When you put it back upright the pendulum resumes swinging and the internal mechanism continues unwinding which restarts the clock. So it only had to be wound sometime a week or so prior to the incident of it getting knocked over.
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Ero posted:I have been thinking the same exact thing. I dont think it will be Daryl because he is such a huge fan favorite. Michonne has been getting a lot of character development as well as beth. Maybe we will get a double whammy. A strong black woman wit a katana is going to be axed? Nope. She's Rick's right hand. Beth had one job. She really does't belong there unless she becomes what andrea was suppose to be
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I have started enjoying this show a lot more since the governor randomly decided to mow down all of his troops with an automatic rifle at the end of season 4. It was the moment that I realized the writers gave no fucks, and I should do the same... But oh my god, if Beth wasn't so cute, I would be actively praying for her to get bitten by a zombie. Actually, I take that back. She's not so nice to look at that it justifies her boring character or her lovely acting. Furthermore, Christian Serratos is way hotter, and if killing off Beth means more Rosita, then I am all for it. 
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OneWhiteWhisker posted:I'm going to speculate there were a number of club goers with dogs and an argument ensued as to the dogs' viability, either as unnecessary consumers or a possible food source. Said dog owners objected and wound up dead. "Welcome to Dogtrot" is pretty much the same as "gently caress you people putting the needs of animals over people in a survival situation" as a warning to the others. Speaking of which- we still havent had any undead dogs ala Resident Evil, or any animals except squirrels.
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No More Heroes posted:Speaking of which- we still havent had any undead dogs ala Resident Evil, or any animals except squirrels.
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ChristianDB posted:A strong black woman wit a katana is going to be axed? Nope. She's Rick's right hand. Beth had one job. She really does't belong there unless she becomes what andrea was suppose to be What was Andrea supposed to be? And my money is on T-Dog's curse. If someone is going to die, it's going to be one of the freshly recruited black characters.
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ApexAftermath posted:It was boring, and also unintentionally hilarious but not in a endearing way that I can laugh at and still love the show. More like I kept facepalming at the loving dumb lines and the terrible delivery of those lines in a "oh man this is so loving stupid and terrible what is happening???" way. The writers have a problem with not knowing where to go from here. People have pointed out that the comics have the same issue with there being a new governor type character show up every now and then for them to have someone to scrap with. The writers don't know where to go from here, what they find a nice settlement and chill the gently caress out for eternity? They find another woodbury? They find another prison to hole up in? This will be another three or four eps of each group getting their own "development" episode only for them to reunite at the end of the season presumably at the same place to either find another "its not what it seems" village or another shithole run by a scumbag they've gotta take down. I thought with captain moustache and mullet doctor they might have had the opportunity for something good, i.e. Trying to salvage the country by protecting the doctor dude till they find whoever the gently caress is in charge but no. Retard shoots up the car and now we're in the same story as the last season when the camp got over run I mean the farm, I mean the prison. I think realistically this whole show would've been better as a planned set of seasons with a legitimate conclusion, but why do something right when you can make sweet hyundai cash?
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