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The Nazi Party Program came from the D.A,P. in 1920(German Workers Part). It's goal according to one of it's founders, Gttfried Feder, "was to reconcile nationalism and socialism." It was a lecture in 1919 by Feder that attracted one Adolf Hitler to the party. Within a year the party changed it's name in order to have a name that more accuratly expressed it's core principle: The new name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

If one wishes to claim the Nazis are not socialist an therefore can be linked with Republican/ consevative, whatever, then by all means keep digging that hole.

In Munich, 1920 over 2,000 participants hear the party announced a 25 point program. The main authors were Feder, Adolf Hitler, and a third man, Anton Drexler.

14 of 25 points are socialistic.
Collectivism.
Nationalism
Authoritarianism.
Idealism
Economic socialism.
Censorship
Abolition of all income gained by loaning money at interest.
Confiscation of all profits earned by German businesses during WWI.
Nationalization of all corperations.
Profit sharing in large industrial enterprises.
Demands the generous developement of state run old-age insurance.
Immediate socialization of the hure department store, etc, etc.

So strong was the Nazi pary commitment to socialiam that in 1921 the party entered into negotiations with another socialist party, the German Socialist Party.In 1927 Hitler made a speech:

"We are socialist, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and prosperity instead of resposibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

Looks like an Occupy speech.

The Nazis bragged that they we more socialist the USSR communists because the socialized almost every aspect of society. The Nazi solution is strong socialism.
Education, who can marry who, who can have babies, who can't, and who shoud not live (eugenics), they even banned smoking in certain public places.

Yet we always have people who claim National Socialism isn't socialism. What next, it isn't nationalism either??

The issue about how socialist the Nazis were is, in part a judgement call about long-term principle and short term pragmatiism. The didn't nationalize all businesses and they didn't need to. Most fell in line and fell for the whole collectivist message of self sacrifice, willingly giving for the greater good. And clearly they were racists but formed alliances with the Italians and the Japanese neither of whom were Aryans racially- same with Hilter.

AShamefulDisplay posted:

I give up man.

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Collectivism.
Nationalism
Authoritarianism.
Idealism
Economic socialism.
Censorship
Abolition of all income gained by loaning money at interest.
Confiscation of all profits earned by German businesses during WWI.
Nationalization of all corperations.
Profit sharing in large industrial enterprises.
Demands the generous developement of state run old-age insurance.
Immediate socialization of the hure department store, etc, etc.

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And clearly they were racists but formed alliances with the Italians and the Japanese neither of whom were Aryans racially- same with Hilter.

VideoTapir posted:

Ask him how Democratic or Republican he thinks the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is.

Deuce posted:

Clearly they are Democratic because they are a communist nation, checkmate liberal.

AShamefulDisplay posted:

For the record, the argument started over whether or not Fascism is a Leftist ideology.

AShamefulDisplay posted:

For the record, the argument started over whether or not Fascism is a Leftist ideology.

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The Bund held rallies with Nazi insignia and procedures such as the Hitler salute and attacked the administration of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Jewish groups, Communism, "Moscow-directed" trade unions and American boycotts of German goods.
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Arguably, the zenith of the Bund's activities was the rally at Madison Square Garden in New York City on February 20, 1939. Some 20,000 people attended and heard Kuhn criticize President Roosevelt by repeatedly referring to him as "Frank D. Rosenfeld", calling his New Deal the "Jew Deal" and denouncing what he believed to be Bolshevik-Jewish American leadership.

Anubis posted:

Well I'm sure you are smart and would figure it out once you had the time to properly research the matter, however the research that NPR was reporting on isn't actually all that close to Politeness Theory, at least according to the provided information.

Amused to Death posted:

Also all this first world poo poo we love so much runs on magic. Taxes only exist to oppress.

AShamefulDisplay posted:

For the record, the argument started over whether or not Fascism is a Leftist ideology.

AShamefulDisplay posted:

I give up man.

JohnClark posted:

An idiot, a creationist, and a war criminal walk into the halls of power...

Discendo Vox posted:

Man, where's the Powell love?

Discendo Vox posted:

Man, where's the Powell love?

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The new 21st edition, updated with lots of new information. The one book every MRA must read. The Myth of Male Power documents how virtually every society that survived did so by persuading its sons to be disposable--disposable in war, disposable at work--and therefore, indirectly, disposable as dads.

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Keshik posted:

I agree with Twitter feminists 90% of the time, and then 10% of the time they will be going after other people who agree with and support their aims and I'll be like, "Wait, what? Why are you viciously attacking someone that agrees with you?"

Keshik posted:

Dirty Job posted:

A link to the book "The Myth of Male Power" (shared from the Men's Rights Initiative) made its way to my facebook feed. Here's the synopsis.

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Why did men live one year less than women in 1920 but five years less than women in 2013?

Discendo Vox posted:

1. You're proposing something that's criminally obvious, which they either already do or is ineffective for some reason.

Keshik posted:

I've never heard of any kind of name and shame campaign along these lines. It seems to me that the hospital admitting privilege laws require complicity of hospitals in closing off access to reproductive care. You can't exactly boycott hospitals but surely something could be done to put hospitals in the spotlight.

Is that unworkable somehow?