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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/business/09law.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1 I'm concerned for this Michael Wallerstein guy. Also, question: what is up with the 7 states who don't require law school to pass the bar? Does anyone actually go this route effectively?
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semicolonsrock posted:Also, question: what is up with the 7 states who don't require law school to pass the bar? Does anyone actually go this route effectively? From what I've heard, it's really rare that it actually happens and the rate of bar passage and employment for these people is pretty low. They're weird laws but they don't really cause any problems so they're still around.
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semicolonsrock posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/business/09law.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1 Don't worry, he seems to have landed on his feet by stealing $13 million dollars from an 91 year old with dementia. http://nypost.com/2012/06/20/tragic-battle-of-will/
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semicolonsrock posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/business/09law.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1 Vermont, New York, Washington, Virginia, California, Maine, and Wyoming have it. 43% bar pass rate vs. 73% pass rate for law school grads. http://thelawdictionary.org/article/be-a-lawyer-with-no-law-school/
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NJ Deac posted:Don't worry, he seems to have landed on his feet by stealing $13 million dollars from an 91 year old with dementia. Holy poo poo -- that explains what they meant when they said they were able to live rent free in exchange for helping an elderly neighbor. Weird. joat mon posted:Generally, it requires a supervised 4 year internship/OJT, only one try at the bar exam, and can't get reciprocity elsewhere. Interesting, that seems like it would be very helpful for getting more public interest lawyers if it happened more often. Would be more fun if it just took passing the bar though 
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Mar 5, 2014 22:46
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Man, why can't I find a 91 year old with $13 million?
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Mar 5, 2014 22:51
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Ahhh the beginning of the month. Send out bills, receive condescending emails from clients that are angry that you actually expect them to pay you for the work you do.
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Mar 6, 2014 00:07
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Keith Mars posted:Ahhh the beginning of the month. Send out bills, receive condescending emails from clients that are angry that you actually expect them to pay you for the work you do. But if you get paid, tonight you can eat like the lower middle class to which you aspire!
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Soothing Vapors posted:But if you get paid, tonight you can eat like the lower middle class to which you aspire! Weird, I just watched this for the first time the other day 
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Mar 6, 2014 00:48
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mastershakeman posted:I feel so bad for that multi-mega-millionaire.
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In VA, I think it survives for like Smith, Smith, Smith & Smith to send Smith #5 to the bar without having to go through law school first. The only way a non-law school lawyer exists after passing the bar is if they have a family job already lined up. I suspect they weed out non-legacy applicants at the character and fitness examination.
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gvibes posted:Kirkland makes (almost) everyone a partner. Partner there means less than most other places. Moreover, Kirkland partner (real partner) comp is closely tied to the business those partners originate, so even making equity partner doesn't give you the comp or security that you'd have as partner at a lockstep firm.
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Mar 6, 2014 01:24
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Soothing Vapors posted:But if you get paid, tonight you can eat like the lower middle class to which you aspire!  , you're good.
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Keith Mars posted:Ahhh the beginning of the month. Send out bills, receive condescending emails from clients that are angry that you actually expect them to pay you for the work you do. I'm in-house and I have to contest bills all the time and it is horrible. It's hard to get the business side to appreciate that good lawyering takes time.
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Keith Mars posted:I had to google this. I gotta say god R ... really?
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Really, I am good, yes
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Mar 6, 2014 04:41
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Keith Mars posted:Ahhh the beginning of the month. Send out bills, receive condescending emails from clients that are angry that you actually expect them to pay you for the work you do. "HOW CAN YOU BILL EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS IN ONE DAY?!" 
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Elotana posted:I had my first chew-out phone call from a client who accused me of being a crook because he gave his approval for an office action response and then tried to take it back the next day after I had already finished because "I'm not sure I want to keep putting money into this." It was a first office action! Only eight hundred for an office action response? You aren't charging enough.
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Yeah 800 wouldn't even cover analysis alone for us. Although we have clients calling our billing "outrageous" on a semi-regular basis.
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Kalman posted:Only eight hundred for an office action response? You aren't charging enough. I want out of prosecution so badly 
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Mar 6, 2014 06:30
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Elotana posted:I want out of prosecution so badly Well, you're in luck, because it's time for another  ISLAND LAW JOB! Presiding Judge Naraja of the CNMI Superior Court (the trial court) is looking for a clerk. Like Palau, the weather is nice, there are plenty of places to go diving, you won't pay federal income taxes, and you'll drink beer on the beach at least once a week. Unlike Palau, Saipan has wi-fi at reasonable prices (although it usually goes down during rainstorms). Link to the posting is here.
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Yeah, someone needs to jump on that even more than the Palau one.
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Green Crayons posted:Whoever was asking about submitting an academic piece for publication, now is the window to submit to journals for the Spring cycle. If you have not already submitted your article, you should do so within the next two weeks. Sooner, rather than later.
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Elotana posted:Technically, we bill $1500 (on the absolute low end for a simple one-reference response), but my partner is a goddamn pushover and told me to only charge for the actual four hours I spent, I guess under the theory that if he's waffling on a first response we'd scare him off or something if I said "no take-backs motherfucker" and he still wailed on me before agreeing to pay. This is why I prefer to have soulless giant companies as clients.
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Normally I enjoy sending people's ex parte stuff back to them along with a little letter. Today, though, I had to do five of them and there wasn't anything distinguishing to make it interesting. It was just changing the address information and "to" line. It's no fun being the resident Sir Humphrey when it's just filling in blanks. I enjoy writing that letter. It's the little personal touch that makes it worthwhile.
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Have the proposed IBR changes been linked in this thread yet? http://www.edcentral.org/obama-administration-announces-major-reforms-income-based-repayment/ The 2015 budget caps the 10-year public service debt forgiveness at 57k, and your spouse's income now counts when determining eligibility/payments. On the upside, forgiveness would no longer count as taxable income. This is all just WH proposals, so who knows what will actually get through Congress. (Murphy's law: Probably just the first two.)
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Elotana posted:Have the proposed IBR changes been linked in this thread yet? All of my friends who took government jobs did so with the understanding that forgiveness would apply to all of their debt, so they've only made minimum payments since graduation. They're now unemployable as private sector attorneys (it's highly unlikely, for example, that a patent firm would hire a patent examiner who has spent more than a few years post-graduation at the USPTO) and their jobs don't provide them with the income necessary to actually pay down $100-200k of debt at 7% interest. Since this a WH proposal, can congressional democrats be expected to support it? If this passes, my friends are screwed. Maybe it's time for them to seek citizenship elsewhere. Ersatz fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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https://www.facebook.com/notes/divine-pharaoh/a-scenario-for-a-utopian-society/939453186184
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Ersatz posted:If the 57k cap goes through it's going to be brutal. Would people who've already borrowed be grandfathered or not? It doesn't say.
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MoFauxHawk posted:Would people who've already borrowed be grandfathered or not? It doesn't say. Ersatz fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Ian McLean posted:https://www.facebook.com/notes/divine-pharaoh/a-scenario-for-a-utopian-society/939453186184 Ersatz fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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MoFauxHawk posted:Would people who've already borrowed be grandfathered or not? It doesn't say. Haha if my wife finds out about these changes she will literally divorce me and take our child, leaving me to struggle to pay my debts with my lovely public interest salary. Thanks Obama! Edit: in hindsight that was an overreaction. There are plenty of reasons to leave me beyond my crushing school debt. Hot Dog Day #91 fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Haha if my wife finds out about these changes she will literally divorce me and take our child, leaving me to struggle to pay my debts with my lovely public interest salary. Thanks Obama! Like Congress will actually pass a budget.
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Roger_Mudd posted:Like Congress will actually pass a budget. Crossing my fingers for the continued stalemate. 
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The cap is 57k for the 10 year forgiveness, but it looks like 25 year forgiveness is uncapped? I mean, still lovely, but it's a big difference.
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EdCentral posted:http://www.edcentral.org/obama-administration-announces-major-reforms-income-based-repayment/ lol, the "Georgetown Law loophole."  Ersatz fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Ersatz posted:gently caress me - yes university spending is out of control, but making it possible for capable students to become scholars and professionals is not providing them with a "windfall"; it's enabling them to contribute to society instead of being locked into a lifetime of trivial bullshit labor. Was i really able to borrow unlimited money? I should have invested it all in bitcoin.
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