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ExplodingSims posted:NOW YOU TOO CAN SUFFER AS WE HAVE. You mean the Chrysler PT Cruiser? Made by Chrysler? It did make them a making GBS threads TON of money though, as terrible as it is. Edit: Also I can't say I've seen one broken down before. I know a guy who had a hand-me-down PT Cruiser with almost 300k miles on the original engine and transmission. The interior was fairly trashed, but mechanically it was sound after 10 years of abuse. BoostCreep fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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BoostCreep posted:You mean the Chrysler PT Cruiser? Made by Chrysler? Maybe my auto knowledge is off, but isn't Chrysler under the GM corporate umbrella?
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ExplodingSims posted:Maybe my auto knowledge is off, but isn't Chrysler under the GM corporate umbrella? Nope - its the third of the US 'big three' (Ford, GM, Chrysler) - albeit somewhat less big than the other two
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Mar 8, 2014 00:23
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dissss posted:Nope - its the third of the US 'big three' (Ford, GM, Chrysler) - albeit somewhat less big than the other two And owned by Fiat now.
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Mar 8, 2014 00:25
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dissss posted:Nope - its the third of the US 'big three' (Ford, GM, Chrysler) - albeit somewhat less big than the other two Huh, I always assumed they were part of GM. Apperently it's me, I'm ther terrible car thing.  Either way, they still made terrible cars with terrible interiors, so they're not that far off from being GM.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:And owned by Fiat now. And somewhere PT Barnum is laughing his rear end off.
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Mar 8, 2014 00:33
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BoostCreep posted:You mean the Chrysler PT Cruiser? Made by Chrysler? Ugh. There was nothing particularly wrong with the PT when it came out, and it sold a bunch and made a lot of money and did wonders for Chrysler's CAFE. It was the right car at the right time. Now, by the 8th year or whatever they had still kept it in production with an outdated drivetrain, yeah it was pretty uncompetitive and maybe they should have replaced it, but probably not because the whole retro thing was probably on the way out. Now compare this to GM who managed to hire the same designer to make the same car in order to cash in on the PT's success, like 6 years after the PT had already been out, and you tell me which was the worse managed company. Appropos of nothing, there was a PT sitting in the Chrysler dealer in Beijing here, with a price tag of somewhere around $35k USD, in 2011. And I actually do see the occasional one out on the streets too. Next time I'm over at the dealer I'm tempted to go over to the guy with a Dodge Caliber who is *always* there when I'm there and ask him why the gently caress he bought that thing. It couldn't have been cheap.
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Throatwarbler posted:Ugh. There was nothing particularly wrong with the PT when it came out, and it sold a bunch and made a lot of money and did wonders for Chrysler's CAFE. It was the right car at the right time. Now, by the 8th year or whatever they had still kept it in production with an outdated drivetrain, yeah it was pretty uncompetitive and maybe they should have replaced it, but probably not because the whole retro thing was probably on the way out. When the Neon first came out, they were all over the loving place. Same with the Cruiser. Now, if I see two Neons in a month, it's a miracle. I do still see quite a few Cruisers, though.
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Mar 8, 2014 00:46
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Tacky Scions are cheating at this due to volume.
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Mar 8, 2014 00:51
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PCOS Bill posted:Tacky Scions are cheating at this due to volume. And target demographic.
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E: phone posting sucks
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Mar 8, 2014 01:51
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Motronic posted:And target demographic. I think this might be a case of "wrong thread" the kid is ruining exactly the car he's supposed to/allowed to ruin. I'm torn
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Mar 8, 2014 02:00
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Mar 8, 2014 02:01
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The PT Cruiser is notable for being the vehicle that is good at nothing. It wasn't especially cheap. It doesn't achieve good mileage. It doesn't perform well. It has little interior room.
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Mar 8, 2014 03:06
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xzzy posted:Just to be clear I'm not trying to rip on anything because of some "LOL PRIUS" sentiment. I think it's an amazing piece of tech and I don't think there's a better commuter car on the market right now. What are people getting for real world mileage out of those things? I pulled 54mpg on my commute today with the pussywagen TDI. Eighteen mile commute half highway half surface streets. I guy I work with has a Volt. Says he got 156mpg out of his last tank commuting to work as back.
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trouser chili posted:What are people getting for real world mileage out of those things? I pulled 54mpg on my commute today with the pussywagen TDI. Eighteen mile commute half highway half surface streets. I could see that if he has a short commute - I think the Volt does around 40 miles just on electric. Of course at that point you have to factor in electricity usage but I don't imagine that's a really huge offset.
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A Melted Tarp posted:The PT Cruiser is notable for being the vehicle that is good at nothing. It looked "retro" and unique and has a very high/upright driving position which was a selling point during the height of the SUV craze. I think toward the end of its run it was selling for pretty cheap, too.
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Mar 8, 2014 04:25
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Yep, the last 2-3 years they couldn't sell them anymore so you could haggle a lot.
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A Melted Tarp posted:The PT Cruiser is notable for being the vehicle that is good at nothing. They were great for antisocial people with semi good credit. Also not terrible to work on from a mechanics standpoint because you get near double the time pay to do anything. Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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A Melted Tarp posted:The PT Cruiser is notable for being the vehicle that is good at nothing. I had to return one my then-wife had rented. I was only in the car 20 minutes and wanted to drive it into a tree.
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Preoptopus posted:They were great for antisocial people with semi good credit. This describes, to a T, the only person I know that willingly owns a PT, and even they admit that it's pretty shite but it still goes and stops so why get something else. Mister Kingdom posted:I had to return one my then-wife had rented. I was only in the car 20 minutes and wanted to drive it into a tree. I've only ridden in one once, for less than 4 miles, and I could not wait to get out of it the whole time.
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trouser chili posted:What are people getting for real world mileage out of those things? I pulled 54mpg on my commute today with the pussywagen TDI. Eighteen mile commute half highway half surface streets. I don't drive the highways too often, my commute is only 6 miles. In the summer I get an honest 55, sometimes can squeeze 70 if I exploit the poo poo out of the battery. In the winter when it gets below 10F it's in the mid 30's because the car never has a chance to warm up. edit - this is in a prius c
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Terrible Robot posted:This describes, to a T, the only person I know that willingly owns a PT, and even they admit that it's pretty shite but it still goes and stops so why get something else. I used to be a valet, and I've had to drive them, it's an even worse experience. Anyone who says that a stick shift makes a car better has never driven a PT Crusier. Or it's retarded cousin the HHR. Seriously, those are both cars that just suck the life out of you while you drive them. Combine that with the worlds worst interior and I can't imagine anyone who willingly wants to drive one. Also, anyone who thinks being a valet means you get to drive awsome cars, nope, only once in a blue moon. So many 200s, Avengers, Cruisers, and Minivans. It's a neverending parade of lovely plastic interiors and horrible driving experiences.
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 I'd probably ironically drive this, and my six year old son would think it's bad rear end. The tombstones have names (probably) of his family members.
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Blood Magnet posted:
That owns, totally wrong thread If for some reason someone doesn't get the reference 
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I'm not sure if this counts as awesome or terrible, but I do know it's 100% automotive insanity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozbWf_QsPrw The best part is at 6:22 where he explains how he hooked up the speedometer or didn't.
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The PT Cruiser is unique in that it feels unsettlingly out of control at any speeds over 100km/h. That feeling when your cars suspension unloads and almost gets air? It somehow feels like its doing that all the time. God I hate those things and the rental car companies and their contracts that made me drive them. The PT Cruiser convertible has a special place in automotive rental car hell next to a Camry with a CVT.
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ExplodingSims posted:NOW YOU TOO CAN SUFFER AS WE HAVE. It's not a GM car.  Edit: so beaten. I thought that post was the end of the thread but there was a page of replies after that! Number_6 fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Mister Kingdom posted:When the Neon first came out, they were all over the loving place. Same with the Cruiser. Now, if I see two Neons in a month, it's a miracle. I do still see quite a few Cruisers, though. Chrysler seems to have a knack for making very marketable (and poo poo) cars and selling so many they just manage to stave off bankruptcy. The K-car, the Caravan, the Neon, and the PT Cruiser all sold really well; somehow they just knew what vehicle people wanted and made them as poorly as possible.
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Neptr posted:Chrysler seems to have a knack for making very marketable (and poo poo) cars and selling so many they just manage to stave off bankruptcy. The K-car, the Caravan, the Neon, and the PT Cruiser all sold really well; somehow they just knew what vehicle people wanted and made them as poorly as possible. I like to think of them as the Kel-Tec of the automotive world. Really good ideas and concepts let down by piss-poor build quality. Terrible Robot fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Hang on, catching a plane to Japan and hitting up the department store for zipties & pipe cleaners, BRB!!! Gonna make a fortune!!!
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CharlesM posted:Hang on, catching a plane to Japan and hitting up the department store for zipties & pipe cleaners, BRB!!! Gonna make a fortune!!! Take blue jeans with you
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 Oh what a neat mustang, nice and clean!  Oh that trunk TV is kinda gross I guess...  The worst part is the guy was boasting he gets 40 miles to a 6 hour charge.
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Mar 9, 2014 06:37
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CharlesM posted:Hang on, catching a plane to Japan and hitting up the department store for zipties & pipe cleaners, BRB!!! Gonna make a fortune!!! He sold them a few minutes ago... Apparently two guys were fighting over them. 
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Mar 9, 2014 06:46
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This guy's expression says it all I think.
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Wasabi the J posted:The worst part is the guy was boasting he gets 40 miles to a 6 hour charge. That's not entirely unreasonable in the realm of current electric cars. The first gen smart electric got 68 miles to an 8 hour charge. Even the most modern smarts and 500es get about 90 miles to a 6 hour charge, and they weren't built in a shed.
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Just because the battery says "deep cycle" on it doesn't mean you can pull peak current out of it from 100% to 0% every other day without something going terribly wrong.
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Turns out this was trolling thank God. I was new to the group and... I mean... these are the same people who would pay thousands for ratty economy cars with no racing pedigree other than the fact that this model was featured in Initial D so it caught me off guard.
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