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evol262 posted:Abort abort abort. But I don't have a SQL server!
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evol262 posted:Abort abort abort. This, sql express is free 2008 r2 is free and hosts 10gb 2012 is like 15. Studio manager express is also free. Do it in sql express
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Mar 6, 2014 21:31
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Veskit posted:I must stress that this isn't a major super crazy project, I just have a team whispering in my ear that someone is going to find a way to kill this thing you naive poor bastard Veskit. Anyone in this thread can tell you how it all goes: Exactly how Bob Morales said it would go. Except he glossed over the horrible support hours that will pass between the time the initial glow of you saving the company finally wears off and the time that the company folks over their millions or goes bankrupt due to your side project experiment. There is no Access database that has been built as a side project experiment that didn't end up as a solution to a business problem (because that's why you built it in the first place, right?) and got absorbed into a business practice. Your team is right. Someone who knows better should kill that thing. I promise you, if you build this Access database and anyone from this thread ever finds out where you live/work/play, they will cut you.
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Mar 6, 2014 21:38
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:This, sql express is free 2008 r2 is free and hosts 10gb 2012 is like 15. Studio manager express is also free. Hrmmmm, I'll look into this. This way I can use Access as the front end client right? Also I should mention I learned how to make databases and write SQL and all that fun stuff, but the actual programs and what to use well.... Clearly I wasn't informed because I'm making an access database it seems. Agrikk posted:Your team is right. Someone who knows better should kill that thing. I promise you, if you build this Access database and anyone from this thread ever finds out where you live/work/play, they will cut you. 
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Mar 6, 2014 21:40
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Veskit posted:Hrmmmm, I'll look into this. This way I can use Access as the front end client right? Yes, just submit the limitations to manager or whatnot of that 10gb limit. When you hit it force management to fork over for a sql instance, then you can export the express db into full sql. There should be a few tutorials on access to sqldbs
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Mar 6, 2014 21:46
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Veskit posted:Hrmmmm, I'll look into this. This way I can use Access as the front end client right? Yes, this is the point of linked tables. But it absolutely should not take even the most junior developer more than a day or so to put together a basic .NET CRUD app.
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Mar 6, 2014 21:47
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I dunno if these sorts of questions are kosher in this thread or should be moved to the SQL thread so bare with me. Looks like SQL server management studio and Oracle SQL Plus and Workflow Builder are available in my request center. Will either of these work for creating a back end database? I also seem to have Database server Installation to an existing server/vm/host. I wonder if I can access this... I'll ask our IT group and see what they think before I go down this dark path of access. They never warned me 
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Mar 6, 2014 21:56
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Veskit posted:I dunno if these sorts of questions are kosher in this thread or should be moved to the SQL thread so bare with me. Aag don't use access, figure out how to do this with Django or Rails or something. SQL Server Management Studio is the graphical management application that will let you set up and administer your databases. You will need to host a SQL Server Express or PostgreSQL or something instance somewhere.
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Mar 6, 2014 22:00
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Veskit posted:Hrmmmm, I'll look into this. This way I can use Access as the front end client right? Yes. Setting up a SQL with properly controlled and normalized data is the hard part. Setting up ODBC connections to it and using Access as a front end for users using linked tables is a decent way to give your users a GUI to access data while protecting them from themselves.
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Mar 6, 2014 22:04
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Agrikk posted:Yes. Well I got the normalization under control. The only concern is since this will be a document tracker access made it really easy to design it, and I don't know if its as either in the other environments. EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:SQL Server Management Studio is the graphical management application that will let you set up and administer your databases. You will need to host a SQL Server Express or PostgreSQL or something instance somewhere. So with this I can set up my tables, create relationships and do field validations? Also uhhhh how easy is it to upload pdfs/docs ect with this manager?
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Mar 6, 2014 22:19
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For one of my previous jobs, I have "Transitioned company from 12 Microsoft Access databases and Excel spreadsheets to Plex ERP system" in that part of my resume. It doesn't sound as nearly as complicated or impressive as it should so I always have fun giving the gory details in interviews.
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Mar 6, 2014 22:23
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MySQL and PostgreSQL are both good, free, alternatives to SQL Express, but without the limitations. They may take a little more effort to configure tho, I've never really set anything up using Microsoft's product.
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Bob Morales posted:For one of my previous jobs, I have "Transitioned company from 12 Microsoft Access databases and Excel spreadsheets to Plex ERP system" in that part of my resume. I worked at an airplane company that ran their ERP on Excel for like..... 2 years while trying to transition to SAP. I know your pain.
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Mar 6, 2014 22:29
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Veskit posted:I worked at an airplane company that ran their ERP on Excel for like..... 2 years while trying to transition to SAP. I know your pain. We just used Excel files for things like logging XXXXX-XXXX-PRODUCTION-2014-03-06.xls That sort of thing
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Mar 6, 2014 22:31
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Dear Network Solutions, How is that I have been removed from an account owned by an old employer, but you still have my loving Amex on file and charged it for that account ?
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Mar 6, 2014 23:21
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Veskit posted:...The only concern is since this will be a document tracker access made it really easy to design it, and I don't know if its as either in the other environments... This sounds like a solved problem. SharePoint or some OSS tool may do what you need.
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Mar 6, 2014 23:39
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KennyTheFish posted:This sounds like a solved problem. SharePoint or some OSS tool may do what you need. Sharepoint costs money. OSS on the other hand... I'll find someone in the company that can help me out. Someone should know something. SOMEONE!
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Mar 7, 2014 00:51
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Veskit posted:Sharepoint costs money. OSS on the other hand... I'll find someone in the company that can help me out. Someone should know something. SOMEONE! Sharepoint foundations is free.
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Sharepoint foundations is free. *note, an installation charge of (a loving ridiculous amount of money) will be charged to your departments budget. At that point I may as well find the best software I can snag for around the same price.
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Mar 7, 2014 00:55
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Veskit posted:Sharepoint costs money. But paying two full time developers to reimplement poo poo like calendars is free, or so my boss thinks
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Veskit posted:*note, an installation charge of (a loving ridiculous amount of money) will be charged to your departments budget. Sounds like you are looking for a technical solution to a non-technical problem. The problem being your corporate IT not supporting the business. Good luck with that.
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If you think dealing with it on the non-classified network is a pain pray that you never encounter it on the other. I'm pretty sure alligator clips, a car battery, and a tender piece of your anatomy are involved if you screw things up.
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Mar 7, 2014 03:43
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Veskit posted:Sharepoint costs money. OSS on the other hand... I'll find someone in the company that can help me out. Someone should know something. SOMEONE! What's the actual problem? I can almost certainly recommend an OSS solution.
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<------ A few days late since I'm at a conference and just getting caught up. Might as well share a gripe, conferences are friggin' exhausting. Especially when they are out of my time zone, I'm waking up early because I'm on easy coast time and running late every night. Finally at McCarren airport headed home but the drat slot machines are dinging and shouting out "Wheel of Fortune" every five minutes and giving me a headache.
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Well i'm a loving idiot. One of out clients who I talked to a fair bit and got on with asked me if people at my company liked her. I said "its probably mixed, as with working relationship some people like working with certain people more than others" and assured her that everyone I heard talking about her liked her. She only paid attention to the part I quoted and has written a complaint into the company and now its on my head. Way to go fuckhead, you just hosed over the only person willing to do you a favour. E: Just had a meeting with my boss. He was surprisingly calm and just told me that I need to be like a politician and dodge more questions than I answer. Seems fair enough. dogstile fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Mar 7, 2014 12:00
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dogstile posted:Well i'm a loving idiot. One of out clients who I talked to a fair bit and got on with asked me if people at my company liked her. I said "its probably mixed, as with working relationship some people like working with certain people more than others" and assured her that everyone I heard talking about her liked her. This sounds hilarious. What kind of complaint can someone make about people not liking them, exactly? "Someone smiled at me today but it was slightly smaller than the smiles I get from other people. This is affecting
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the littlest prince posted:This sounds hilarious. What kind of complaint can someone make about people not liking them, exactly? Someone who's narcissistic, suffers from crippling self-doubt, or both.
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rolleyes posted:Someone who's narcissistic, suffers from crippling self-doubt, or both. Yeah the fact that someone would even ask the question would set off alarm bells - people who are secure with themselves don't need to ask, and people who are socially capable should already know who likes them and who doesn't, generally speaking, and be OK with that.
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Dear $Manager from hosed up $company, Due to you treating me like a child and trying to pigeonhole me into a role that I've resisted for the seventeen years of my career, I am firing you and your company. I am leaving you for a new organization that has a reputation of treating its employees like the grownups they are and trusting them to get their work done. I have submitted my signed response to their offer this morning, so I hereby give you your two weeks termination notice. Sincerely, Agrikk. P.S. See you later, shitlords. P.P.S. FYI: The $company policy of dinging managers on their performance review for turnover among their direct reports is asinine. Although, $company has an office in $NewHomeTown, I could not request a transfer there because, since $MyManager would get a performance review hit for my turnover, it is in his best interest to fire me instead of let me transfer. This is not talent development. This is talent ejection. tl;dr - Agrikk YOTJ'd today. Signed offer letter today. Giving a (more diplomatic) two week notice Monday.
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Agrikk posted:Giving a (more diplomatic) two week notice Monday. Why? Also, Congrats! I hope to  soon, unemployment is driving me in-loving-sane
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Never burn bridges, act professional in the face of adversity, etc. What ev'. When I'm quit of these guys they'll be a collection of half-remembered names and faeces that occasionally float up from the bottomless pool of forgotten memories that is my head.
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Agrikk posted:Never burn bridges, act professional in the face of adversity, etc. I should have been more clear, that wasn't a real "why", it was a continuation of the absurdism.
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Due to some political BS, we were asked to accept a donation of 15 PCs, we were told it was all "good stuff". Maintenance dept. sent 2 guys and a truck to pick up the stuff, 2 hour round trip, here's what they came back with: Nothing less than 7-8 years old. Not pictured are the 9 boxes of dirty, used keyboards, piles of mice with ps2 connectors, approximately 10-12 useless inkjet printers, 5-10 old, broken scanners and 3 CRT monitors. My boss and I took one look at it and pretty much just laughed and said that there was absolutely nothing we could with the stuff. It's all been sitting in the basement for 2 weeks now waiting for maintenance to haul it away to be recycled.
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Mr. Clark2 posted:Due to some political BS, we were asked to accept a donation of 15 PCs, we were told it was all "good stuff". Maintenance dept. sent 2 guys and a truck to pick up the stuff, 2 hour round trip, here's what they came back with: But we spent $2000 on that computer only ten years ago! It's got to be worth something! Can I put a $750 writeoff on my taxes?
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I once got yelled at because I told a lawyer that no, he couldn't "trade in" his printer.
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Agrikk posted:YOTJ Congratulations dude - and yes that review policy sounds utterly ridiculous.
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guppy posted:I once got yelled at because I told a lawyer that no, he couldn't "trade in" his printer. Out of all the possible users, I think that lawyers are actually the worst. Worse than doctors, C-levels etc. - Even the most basic, just-passed-the-bar lawyer is extremely demanding and expects everything to be done instantly with the minimal possible level of access to his computer. Drives me insane.
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rolleyes posted:Congratulations dude - and yes that review policy sounds utterly ridiculous. You have no idea. Agrikk and I found out we both worked for the same company several months ago, just on different projects thousands of miles apart. I YOTJed back in December. He's not lying, it is a pants on head retarded company. Twice a year there is performance metrics bullshit that means nothing. Total Whose Line Is It Anyway, where the points are made up and they don't matter anyway.
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