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Boxman posted:Stinky, I have to ask...what are you selling the temples for? Good question.
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qbert posted:The owner of an LGS I frequent claims to have 8-10 copies of each of the recent sets because he's able to assemble them on MTGO and then use whatever policy Wizards has where they'll mail you a paper version of the set if you've completed it online. Once you account for shipping costs and stuff the margin is pretty weak, but it's not untenable. Right now I heard the margin value on Theros was something like 20% though.
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qbert posted:The owner of an LGS I frequent claims to have 8-10 copies of each of the recent sets because he's able to assemble them on MTGO and then use whatever policy Wizards has where they'll mail you a paper version of the set if you've completed it online. Yeah, that is a thing. I haven't drafted Theros block enough, though.
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Mar 13, 2014 23:38
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qbert posted:The owner of an LGS I frequent claims to have 8-10 copies of each of the recent sets because he's able to assemble them on MTGO and then use whatever policy Wizards has where they'll mail you a paper version of the set if you've completed it online. It is a thing, but no it's not substantially cheaper. Whenever it is cheaper, people arbitrage the difference by buying online and selling in the real world, and the prices realign.
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Mar 13, 2014 23:39
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It was a lot better when the fee per set was $5 instead of $25, that's for sure. It's the only thing that keeps the singles prices up on Modo though. It's also why there's always a market for foil mythics, even if they're terrible like descent into madness or whatever.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:08
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Alright, I'm willing to admit I was probably over zealous and I'll adjust my M14 Mutavault post rotation prediction to within a few bucks of $15.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:12
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I mean I'm probably going to horde my extra shocks and then sell them when Modern season picks up next year, when they'll probably be in higher demand.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:20
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Fetchable dual lands are not going to go under $5. Shocks definitely seem like a decent investment for retaining value post-rotation.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:40
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qbert posted:Fetchable dual lands are not going to go under $5. Shocks definitely seem like a decent investment for retaining value post-rotation. This is exactly why they won't go below 5. Just based on this last page of discussion alone there's what, 6-7 people offering to buy those shocks at 5? People act like shocks having value is some insider info when in reality everyone with even a mild interest in collecting value is going to buy up as many as possible.
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Hey, stinky, if Judas'll let a few past him, here's what I need. 2 breeding pools 1 Godless Shrine 3 Hallowed Fountains 1 Temple Garden These are the ones I need to complete my play sets, and I'll pay shipping, too. I'm even prepared to make a deal with Judas that, if I decide to get rid of my collection, I'll give him first refusal, if he lets me get them off you. Anil Dikshit fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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qbert posted:The owner of an LGS I frequent claims to have 8-10 copies of each of the recent sets because he's able to assemble them on MTGO and then use whatever policy Wizards has where they'll mail you a paper version of the set if you've completed it online. I can't find the website with full set monetized at the moment but if this guy is serious and waits to sell the physical set, he will definitely make a decent chunk of change from it. I think Innistrad was going for $1000+. So $25 x 10 = $250(maybe less if he talks to someone at WotC to do it cheaper.) $250 + $whatever it took to buy up the cards he didn't have = $$$? Sell each set for $1000+ and he's made $10,000. The main issue is this will take 3+ years to do in total, unless he sales now when the sets are cheap. Also there needs to be 10 buyers, which might not exist.
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Korak posted:a lot of the foreign players divulged a lot of interesting info that they make their livings(one guy is supporting 3 kids and his wife) all from MTGO grinding. Part of that is redeeming sets and selling them off for real world cash. This is almost exclusively Brazilians who have such a crushingly low minimum wage that grinding MTGO events is worth doing. It's not like these dudes are making 70k+ a year or something.
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You guys could make a lot more money by trading equities. Also equities aren't magical cardboard game pieces and they don't require you to physically mail them to someone to get money out. That said, it's kind of absurd how MTG lands have only skyrocketed, and I really hope they print a ton of fetchlands and ruin SCG.
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Promoted Pawn posted:Alright, I'm willing to admit I was probably over zealous and I'll adjust my M14 Mutavault post rotation prediction to within a few bucks of $15. This is more reasonable, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it held this kind of value, but I definitely expect it to go lower.
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Mulletstation posted:You guys could make a lot more money by trading equities. Also equities aren't magical cardboard game pieces and they don't require you to physically mail them to someone to get money out. Sure, if you knew what you were doing. People here know what they are doing w/ regards to Magic, so they trade cards.
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Korak posted:Yes its a thing but it was more profitable before they changed it to like $25 for redeems. Also when they shut down MTGO's events for a while, a lot of the foreign players divulged a lot of interesting info that they make their livings(one guy is supporting 3 kids and his wife) all from MTGO grinding. Part of that is redeeming sets and selling them off for real world cash. $1000 for a set? Maybe for foils, for a high value set unopened like New Phyrexia, and at really low volume. Complete sets always hover in the $100 to $175 range, at least while in standard. Not much else but prices to talk about these days eh? I guess everyone is tired of standard and in sticker shock over modern... e: or crackgate
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Not much else but prices to talk about these days eh? I guess everyone is tired of standard and in sticker shock over modern... It's also split between a lot of topics
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So the GF wants to play FNM with me tomorrow night, which means I will be making her a deck. She has a basic understanding of the game courtesy of the iPad app and the MTG intro sets I have been playing with her. My goal is to make a cheap, straightforward deck that she can have fun playing and still have a shot at winning a game or two. I am thinking of making a weenie white deck but going monowhite instead of white/black. The below is what I'm leaning towards. Thoughts? 22 LANDS 22 Plains 28 CREATURES 4 Boros Elite 4 Daring Skyjek 4 Precinct Captain 4 Banisher Priest 4 Soldier of the Pantheon 4 Imposing Sovereign 4 Dryad Militant 10 SPELLS 4 Brave the Elements 4 Ethereal Armor (or 4 Pacifism) 2 Spear of Heliod Also considering dropping 2x creatures for 2x Ajani, Caller of the Pride.
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Mulletstation posted:You guys could make a lot more money by trading equities. Also equities aren't magical cardboard game pieces and they don't require you to physically mail them to someone to get money out. SCG moves inventory fast enough to capture margins on most of the fetches they'll buy from now to reprint. By the time the fetches will be announced to be reprinted, SCG will have profited on 99% of the fetches they purchased between now and then so they'll be fine even when prices dip
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Mulletstation posted:You guys could make a lot more money by trading equities. Also equities aren't magical cardboard game pieces and they don't require you to physically mail them to someone to get money out. I know this, but I know more about wizard poker paper rectangles than any real investment so I just play and trade this as a hobby. Plus I don't have the bankroll to do anything with serious investments besides buy-and-hold without getting eaten alive by fees, and that's what my 401(k) is for. If you have any pointers for getting started though, fire away.
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Mulletstation posted:You guys could make a lot more money by trading equities. Also equities aren't magical cardboard game pieces and they don't require you to physically mail them to someone to get money out. My job doesn't allow me to do day trading, which is what I'm basically doing with Magic cards. So 
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morning wood posted:So the GF wants to play FNM with me tomorrow night, which means I will be making her a deck. She has a basic understanding of the game courtesy of the iPad app and the MTG intro sets I have been playing with her. My goal is to make a cheap, straightforward deck that she can have fun playing and still have a shot at winning a game or two. I am thinking of making a weenie white deck but going monowhite instead of white/black. The below is what I'm leaning towards. Thoughts? I would drop the ethereal armors for 2x ajani and 2x spear of heliod, you'd have a not-bad aggro deck after that. Ed: didn't see you already had spear. I'd still add 2 ajani or maybe gods willing over ethereal armor but it'd probably be ok anyways Fingers McLongDong fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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morning wood let her know that holding up protection spells is often the best play for GW/Weenie Aggro. So many people jam their creatures out to get eaten up and then rebuilding is very hard to do.quote:Article on Modern brewing: Maybe a really interesting way to win the twin mirror?
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Boxman posted:Stinky, I have to ask...what are you selling the temples for? Come to SA Mart and we can work something out!
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morning wood posted:So the GF wants to play FNM with me tomorrow night, which means I will be making her a deck. She has a basic understanding of the game courtesy of the iPad app and the MTG intro sets I have been playing with her. My goal is to make a cheap, straightforward deck that she can have fun playing and still have a shot at winning a game or two. I am thinking of making a weenie white deck but going monowhite instead of white/black. The below is what I'm leaning towards. Thoughts? This seems totally fine but try and get her to really make a point of remembering triggers. What makes White Weenie more complicated than RDW for newer players are all the triggers going on. Even longtime players tend to always forget the Soldier of the Pantheon and Dryad Militant triggers. Also remembering to activate the Spear every time a creature hits her.
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Stinky Pit posted:Come to SA Mart and we can work something out! Is there any chance you ship to the UK? 
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:$1000 for a set? Maybe for foils, for a high value set unopened like New Phyrexia, and at really low volume. Complete sets always hover in the $100 to $175 range, at least while in standard.
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Promoted Pawn posted:I know this, but I know more about wizard poker paper rectangles than any real investment so I just play and trade this as a hobby. Plus I don't have the bankroll to do anything with serious investments besides buy-and-hold without getting eaten alive by fees, and that's what my 401(k) is for. A lot of brokerage places have reasonable fees, provided you only need spartan tools. E*Trade is $10, Schwab is $9, Scottrade is $7, Tradeking is $5... I mean, I casually trade magic for fun too, but it's largely only for deck parts I need, rather than as a purely investment angle.
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qbert posted:This seems totally fine but try and get her to really make a point of remembering triggers. What makes White Weenie more complicated than RDW for newer players are all the triggers going on. Even longtime players tend to always forget the Soldier of the Pantheon and Dryad Militant triggers. Dryad Militant isn't a trigger, but yes people tend to forget about it.
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Mulletstation posted:You guys could make a lot more money by trading equities. Also equities aren't magical cardboard game pieces and they don't require you to physically mail them to someone to get money out. Some of us have enough disposable income to trade and spend money on wizard cards 
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Hey, so, I'm looking to get back into MTG. I haven't played since Zendikar, and I can't seem to find much info on the state of the current block. Is Standard going to cycle soon? Wouldn't want to jump into it and then have my Standard deck be invalidated in a month Found this list but I don't know when the next set comes out (I guess May 2nd?) and what will be removed when the next block comes. Sab669 fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Sab669 posted:Hey, so, I'm looking to get back into MTG. I haven't played since Zendikar, and I can't seem to find much info on the state of the current block. Is Standard going to cycle soon? Wouldn't want to jump into it and then have my Standard deck be invalidated in a month Standard won't rotate for about six months or so(?), so you'd be relatively safe buying some Return to Ravnica stuff.
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Sab669 posted:Hey, so, I'm looking to get back into MTG. I haven't played since Zendikar, and I can't seem to find much info on the state of the current block. Is Standard going to cycle soon? Wouldn't want to jump into it and then have my Standard deck be invalidated in a month When the big fall set comes out all of RTR block will rotate out along with M14. Theros block and m15 (out this summer) will be around till the next big fall set comes out.
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So RTR, Gatecrash and DM will start to shift out later this year, as each set of the next block comes in? Hmmm. I might just be a terrible person and buy a big rear end box of stuff and see what I can make...
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Sab669 posted:So RTR, Gatecrash and DM will start to shift out later this year, as each set of the next block comes in? Hmmm. I might just be a terrible person and buy a big rear end box of stuff and see what I can make... How competitive to you want to be?
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Sab669 posted:So RTR, Gatecrash and DM will start to shift out later this year, as each set of the next block comes in? Hmmm. I might just be a terrible person and buy a big rear end box of stuff and see what I can make... They all leave at once. It's not a gradual thing.
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I've never been super competitive, I used to play janky Mill decks and a Mergrim / Burning Inquiry / Blightning deck before Liliana's Caress was a thing  That said, I'd like to play something that can do well, but still fun to play, if you know what I mean? I was never a huge fan of just aggro / rush like monoblack Vampires back when I was just starting to play at FNM's. I guess slightly more control / combo oriented.edit; ^^Ah, couldn't remember. I thought they left 1 set at a time as each new set of a block was introduced. Also is there anywhere cheaper than $90 for a box on ChannelFireball?
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In a world where fetchlands and filter lands have quadrupled in price and fast lands have doubled in just one year, betting the over on shocklands is the easiest thing to take.
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GoutPatrol posted:In a world where fetchlands and filter lands have quadrupled in price and fast lands have doubled in just one year, betting the over on shocklands is the easiest thing to take. I know what a fetchland is but I have no idea what any of those other things are. For Nightveil Specter, I assume you have to pay the mana cost for exiled cards you wish to play? Just reading over popular deck lists 
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Sab669 posted:I know what a fetchland is but I have no idea what any of those other things are. Seachrome Coast is a Fast Land, there is a whole cycle from Scars of Mirrodin. Fire-lit Thicket and stuff like this are filter lands from Lorwyn block. And yeah, you still need to pay the mana costs. luckily he can also steal lands!
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