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TubeStank posted:From Tom Pelissero's twitter: Amazing. loving amazing. Packer execs who go elsewhere flounder. TT really is THAT good apparently. Peppers could fail entirely, have no sacks, do nothing at all, and the Packers are STILL sticking it to a division rival. It's almost incredible.
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KettleWL posted:Plus there's the draft coming up. Is Ben Tate slotted as the starter or is there someone in Cleveland I don't know about who would be ahead of him for touches? Regardless, I'm very impressed with Cleveland's free agency moves, and honestly worried about the team this year. They've always played the Bengals close regardless (In part because the Bengals have honestly never been [i[that[/i] good), but they're actually looking like contenders for the division title if they can get decent performance out of their offense. Is it enough to make you happy for the Browns ham? He'd be the primary back right now. I like the signing because it frees us up to take a 4th-round guy for 3rd and long or whatever, a specialist rather than an every-down guy. Which recently has paid off just as well as drafting an RB early. And no, I don't fall for declaring wins during the offseason any more. I'll be happy when they're 5-1
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Big Beef City posted:Amazing. I mean, the Bears did that knowingly to free up more capspace so I don't really see how thats sticking to a rival.
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Mar 15, 2014 19:53
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DupaDupa posted:I mean, the Bears did that knowingly to free up more capspace so I don't really see how thats sticking to a rival. The Packers are infallible geniuses or something
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Mar 15, 2014 19:54
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I mean if anything its just illustrative of how terrible Angelo was at free agent contracts.
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Mar 15, 2014 19:55
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Big Beef City posted:Packer execs who go elsewhere flounder. Dude, Schneider just won a Superbowl.
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Mar 15, 2014 19:55
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Considering that post superbowl the Packers have been an overall weak team with a very strong passing game due to a generational QB, I'd say they're extremely fallible. Kinda like the Colts in the Manning era except Rodgers consistently gets stud WRs to throw to.
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Mar 15, 2014 19:56
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 58s Patriots and WR Julian Edelman just reached agreement, per source. Back to New England.
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Mar 15, 2014 19:57
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DupaDupa posted:I mean, the Bears did that knowingly to free up more capspace so I don't really see how thats sticking to a rival. You're the Bears. You owe him 8mil against your cap and he isn't going to play for you. We're the Packers. We got him for 3.5.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:00
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Apparently the Lamarr Houston deal has almost no guaranteed money down and could walk away from Houston with no dead money:quote:
Compared to Angelo this is loving wizardry to me. Edit: Big Beef City posted:You're the Bears. You owe him 8mil against your cap and he isn't going to play for you. Yes that is exactly how dead money and market value works. DupaDupa fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Mar 15, 2014 20:01
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Sticking it to your rival is more like signing their excellent starting defensive tackle (of which they have absolutely no replacement for) because they're so awful at managing the cap that they can't even keep one of the best pass rushers to ever play the game around despite fielding one of the worst defenses in NFL history just last year
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Mar 15, 2014 20:02
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ShakeZula posted:Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 58s Solid. Really happy about this offseason so far. Always more to be done, but man. 
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Mar 15, 2014 20:04
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God gently caress the Patriots
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DupaDupa posted:Yes that is exactly how dead money and market value works. Educate me.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:06
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Professor Funk posted:God gently caress the Patriots He was always going back to the Pats once the WR market didn't pan out for him.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:08
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Big Beef City posted:Educate me. If you need to know what dead money is you should probably ask that in here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3324645
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Big Beef City posted:Educate me. They would have owed him more than 8 million this year. I think it was 15 or 16 million? They gained money by cutting him. They had 8 million in dead money left over, but they still got back money by cutting him. Packers didn't stick anything to the bears, other than signing a former bears player. The Kraken posted:Sticking it to your rival is more like signing their excellent starting defensive tackle (of which they have absolutely no replacement for) because they're so awful at managing the cap that they can't even keep one of the best pass rushers to ever play the game around despite fielding one of the worst defenses in NFL history just last year He's no longer one of the best pass rushers. He can still play, but he's more than lost a step in speed and agility. Or are you referring to Melton?
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Mar 15, 2014 20:11
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quote:Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 5m That's a pretty good deal. I'm digging new Browns until they draft Derek Carr then I'll be real bummed.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:12
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tarbrush posted:He was always going back to the Pats once the WR market didn't pan out for him. I never said it was a rational response.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:13
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Yeah the Bears definitely should've paid Peppers $18 million next year. That sounds like a solid plan.
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MonsterWalk posted:That's a pretty good deal. I'm digging new Browns until they draft Derek Carr then I'll be real bummed. What is wrong with Derek Carr other than his name
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Mar 15, 2014 20:16
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MonsterWalk posted:That's a pretty good deal. I'm digging new Browns until they draft Derek Carr then I'll be real bummed. That's a great deal for Tate He's going to do really well in Cleveland
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Mar 15, 2014 20:17
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ShortThug posted:Yeah the Bears definitely should've paid Peppers $18 million next year. That sounds like a solid plan. They're still on the hook for part of his salary, and a division rival got him for pennies on the dollar.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:18
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:What is wrong with Derek Carr other than his name I really love predetermined reactions to draft picks before they happen just for all the posts 2 or 3 years later that are always either "man I was so hyped for X pick now he sucks  " or "man I hated X pick now he's great  "
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Mar 15, 2014 20:19
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Big Beef City posted:You're the Bears. You owe him 8mil against your cap and he isn't going to play for you. The cap hit may be around 3.5 million, but the Packers are paying him 8.5 million for the first year. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10612157/julius-peppers-agrees-deal-green-bay-packers
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Mar 15, 2014 20:19
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Kedzie posted:The cap hit may be around 3.5 million, but the Packers are paying him 8.5 million for the first year. Cap is all I'm arguing. What's his cap hit against the bears for the upcoming season? What's his cap hit against the Packers for the upcoming season?
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Mar 15, 2014 20:23
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:What is wrong with Derek Carr other than his name Mostly the fact that if the Browns draft him it's means they didn't get Teddy/Manziel (which they won't) and I'm sick of grabbing a late 1/early 2 QB, I'd prefer to take a QB with the 4. I also don't think he'll be very good in the NFL.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:24
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Who loving cares Pepper is old as poo poo and going to keep declining no matter who owes him what
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Mar 15, 2014 20:24
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Panthers signed Roman Harper. gently caress Roman Harper.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:24
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zimbomonkey posted:Panthers signed Roman Harper. How many career receptions does he have from Panthers' quarterbacks?
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Mar 15, 2014 20:26
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Professor Funk posted:The Panthers spent actual money on Roman Harper. Who
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The only thing I remember about him is this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWXWawdXy7Q God dammit this offseason is the loving worst.
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Big Beef City posted:Cap is all I'm arguing. What's his cap hit against the bears for the upcoming season? This deal isn't really some spectacular coup on the part of the Packers, no matter how hard you try to frame it that way
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Mar 15, 2014 20:29
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zimbomonkey posted:The only thing I remember about him is this.
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FeedingHam2Cats posted:This deal isn't really some spectacular coup on the part of the Packers, no matter how hard you try to frame it that way ok so post some numbers to the question I asked.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:30
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Man you guys like to argue about the dumbest poo poo when actual stuff is happening The Harper contract is 2 years, 4.5m
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Big Beef City posted:ok so post some numbers to the question I asked. Why are there so many bad posters in this thread? It's a pretty good deal for the Packers, that's about it. It's also pretty good for the Bears because he won't count for $18 million against the cap. Voila.
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Wouldn't Peppers cost $8m against the Bears, regardless of who signed him for whatever kind of deal or price?
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