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rypakal posted:Like, I'm an English Major and am right now reading the Iliad for the first time. Everyone has gaps. Why is an English major reading a book written in ancient Greek?
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Defiance Industries posted:A lot of names in Post-Apocalyptic Fiction are meaningful in a functional way. A lot of the time, settlements that spring up after a cataclysm have names that are either references to the place that the settlement used to be (New whatever or a pidgin version of the old placename) or what the settlement does (Bartertown, Shelter, the Vault) as much as any sort of abstract thematic meaning. Terminus is named Terminus because all railroads lead there, and most of the cast are following the tracks. It's like The Hub in Fallout 1, it got the name because all the caravans run through it. I bet it has more than one meaning. The people in the show named the settlement Terminus for one reason. The writers of the show named it Terminus for another. nopants fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Was a really good episode definately the best one of this season, I actually think Liz's acting was good considering shes a child. I was shocked they actually killed her I didn't think the show would have the guts, plus I was looking forward to there being a crazy murderous child in Terminus. I'm also guessing the BBQ'd zombies and fire was the result of the burning of the Moonshine hut by Daryl and that little girl who's actually 30
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I thought that was pretty obvious. Since they're all on foot and headed to the same place it stands to reason that all the prison survivors are all relatively close to each other. We've already seen them miss each other a few times like Darryl tracking Tyrese and the girls or both Maggie and Glenn passing by the bus or Darryl being found by the same gang Rick evaded. It stands to reason that if one group starts a giant rear end fire that one or more of the other groups might see it. All these disconnected stories are happening over the same few days in the same basic area.
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PaganGoatPants posted:
Some of the best moments in any show.
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Mar 18, 2014 00:51
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Grin and Tonic posted:At this point, though, I'm thinking TERMINUS is gonna be some kinda death camp. I think it's funny that the subsidy Georgia gives for people filming there is *so important* that they're (potentially, who knows) foregoing the entire Arlington/Alexandria Free Zone thing to keep the show's setting in Georgia.
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Irish Joe posted:Why is an English major reading a book written in ancient Greek? He's actually reading Ulysses.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I think it's funny that the subsidy Georgia gives for people filming there is *so important* that they're (potentially, who knows) foregoing the entire Arlington/Alexandria Free Zone thing to keep the show's setting in Georgia. They can film in Georgia and pretend it's somewhere else, I believe Hollywood has some experience with this.
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Mar 18, 2014 00:54
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I don't really have a problem with them sticking to Georgia. I don't really see why they'd waste gas and risk their lives traveling far away unless they had a good reason. The DC thing may lead them away but there's probably plenty of prisons, farms, gated communities, isolated towns, malls, and whatever in Georgia for them to try and live in without risking it all to go somewhere else. I'd naturally love to see the world in other places than Georgia but hopefully the spinoff can address that.
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Sober posted:I want to see TVIV write an episode of TWD and see how batshit crazy it gets. I'd have them come across the perfect settlement where life had gotten back to normal. It was secure, had modern conveniences and could be an allegory for Heaven if you wanted to see into a T.V. show that far. But before they can enter they have tell their story to a tribunal that decides who can stay and who can't. The townspeople of course gather to listen to hear the tale and appear visibly moved. Then at the end the tribunal looks and smiles at each other and says: "You're all the proof we need why we don't let just anyone in here." They then deconstruct each character in the group and explain why they are terrible people, cause misery and suffering where they go and are a detriment to humanity. The townspeople who seemed to be moved by their plight were actually disgusted with them the entire time. They are barely contained by the town guard from assaulting Rick and company. Rick and the rest of the group are seen walking away from the settlement gates back out into the hell on earth. The further away they walk the more there slow march resembles the tire gait of the undead. Then someone in the town opens up a bunch of Deer Park water containers and just lets it all spill out, because wasting water is still a thing no matter who writes the show.
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Id love to see them make it to the coast at some point and get drowned zombies, not unlike the mud zombies we encountered with gov pt II.
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rypakal posted:There are enough excellent books in the world that you can't just assume even well read people have read them all. I've never read Of Mice and Men though I am aware of it through Bugs Bunny and many references in fiction to squishing animals. It is a bit surprising simply because Of Mice and Men is basically required reading in every high school in the US, or every single one I've ever come across. As a fellow English major, the Iliad is a much more understandable gap, because it's literally just the Dragon Ball Z of classical literature and the Odyssey is just flat-out superior in every meaningful way.It's kind of the opposite of OMaM because I don't think I've ever met anyone that had the Iliad assigned in school. edit: quote:Why is an English major reading a book written in ancient Greek? Well, "English" as a major is just a roundabout way of saying "Literature," for the most part. Obviously if you aren't a Classics major you won't be reading it in the original Greek, but any English curriculum worth a poo poo will have you reading literature from all over the world. I mean the vast majority of Nobel winners in literature didn't write in English, for example, so you'd end up with a very narrow exposure to literature otherwise. And it would pretty much rule out half of the western canon, since so much of it is Latin / Greek / Italian, etc. in origin. quote:A lot of people itt spending way too much money to write good. I actually got paid to get my undergrad degree, and every MFA program worth going to is fully-funded as well. Then again it's still a liberal arts degree, so... Bikini Quilt fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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messagemode1 posted:Id love to see them make it to the coast at some point and get drowned zombies, not unlike the mud zombies we encountered with gov pt II.
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A lot of people itt spending way too much money to write good.Scooter_McCabe posted:The further away they walk the more there slow march resembles the gait of the undead. That's deep, man. I'd probably just give Rick LSD or have someone experience a manic episode. This show is too dire for its own good sometimes. Smile, its only the apocalypse!
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Urdnot Fire posted:They'll be all bloated and gross-looking like the well zombie and need to be towed out of the ocean so they can safely drink the sea water. It would be pretty funny to see all these bloated, gas-filled zombies just floating around the ocean, hoping a raft full of people drifts close enough. A shipwreck scene could be pretty creepy, though.
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Full Fathoms Five posted:It is a bit surprising simply because Of Mice and Men is basically required reading in every high school in the US, or every single one I've ever come across. Not in mine, though I did catch the Sinise/Malkovich movie back then.
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Pretty dramatic shift from the past few episodes. The only misfire was the ending voiceover, which was super lame and totally unnecessary given what we saw. Poor Tyreese. 
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messagemode1 posted:Man Carol busting all of the conspiracy theories tonight. Other than some shaky acting from the kids I thought this one was pretty great. Lizzie losing it felt more earned and genuine than the Governor losing it ever did. Loved Carol and Tyrese's facial expressions the whole time and the Carl/deer callback. Carol's probably the most interesting character on the show and I'm thankful they didn't undo that. My favorite part of the thread is the "who was the third grave for??" posts. Austrian mook posted:So who holds the torch for most pointless death, Dale? Meryl?
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Merle's death was the culmination of his redemption arc, so that was okay. Dale's death felt like, "The viewers don't like this guy, and we can't come up with anything interesting for him to do, so let's suddenly write him off the show".
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Surlaw posted:My favorite thing of the episode. I have worked with people with severe trauma and mental disorders. Lizzie's breakdown tantrums were spot-on, to me.
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Dienes posted:I have worked with people with severe trauma and mental disorders. Lizzie's breakdown tantrums were spot-on, to me.
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socialsecurity posted:They can film in Georgia and pretend it's somewhere else, I believe Hollywood has some experience with this. Pretty much. They filmed a good chunk of Battle: Los Angeles in Shreveport, LA and CGI'd what they had to. It was funny though watching the movie and seeing familiar sights in their "Los Angeles".
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Lycus posted:Merle's death was the culmination of his redemption arc, so that was okay. Dale's death felt like, "The viewers don't like this guy, and we can't come up with anything interesting for him to do, so let's suddenly write him off the show". Dale's death sort of, kind of affected the group's immediate actions including how they handled Randall. It more or less brought people like Andrea and Rick back over to Rick's old way of doing things and essentially isolated Shane. That more than anything probably allowed (or at least quickened) Shane losing it and trying to kill Rick. If Dale never dies and Carl never feels responsible then Rick might kill Randall and Shane doesn't have that final breaking point/excuse to kill Rick. It might still happen but it probably happens later on over something else. And again, Carl ends up feeling responsible for Dale's death and that's kind of what convinces him he has to stop being a kid and leads to the character he's been since then. So in some ways Dale's death shaped most of Carl's character arc. On the other hand Andrea's death served absolutely no storyline purpose I can think of and affected the story in no way I can remember or argue. Michonne had already found her place at the prison, the Governor had already shown to be evil, and Rick and Co didn't change their view on anything after finding her. All that came from that is a lot of goons cheering.
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Bored posted:I agree. It also fits well with something people might be forced to do in that world. There are going to be people that can't survive in that fictional world where it would be kinder to kill them than to leave them behind. This is also why I knew Tyreese was going to forgive Carol. She was suffering, and Carol ended her life early, but quickly while she was unaware. Is a merciful death really the worst thing to give a loved one in an apocalypse like this? As opposed to chasing after a ghost town with a murderer, a crying infant, and an insane child? We are the Walking Dead, etc. Edit: vvvv I understand that, but mercy certainly casts a wider net in this poo poo world. Her motives were not as such, but it was still better than Karen being eaten by a walker later. Kasonic fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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I don't think Tyrese sees Carol killing Karen as a mercy killing and I don't think Carol has even tried to use that defense. Carol has said all along she did it not to end Karen's suffering but to try and keep the disease from spreading. It was an act of cold preservation, not mercy. But Tyrese does see Carol make a similar decision with Lizzie and it shows him that she really is all about doing what she thinks is necessary even at the cost of someone she loves. He also sees that she anguishes over it and tried to find another way so he's assured she isn't sick or heartless like Lizzie or the Governor. That's what let's him forgive her. But Carol killing Karen and David had nothing to do with mercy and I don't think Carol has ever tried to claim it did.
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Lycus posted:Merle's death was the culmination of his redemption arc, so that was okay. Dale's death felt like, "The viewers don't like this guy, and we can't come up with anything interesting for him to do, so let's suddenly write him off the show". Merle got a great death and I don't think it could have really been done much better.
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Lycus posted:Dale's death felt like, "The viewers don't like this guy, and we can't come up with anything interesting for him to do, so let's suddenly write him off the show". It's possible that he, along with Shane's actor, just opted to leave the show since Darabont was in the process of being forced out.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Dale's actor wanted off the show after the network fired Frank Darabont, who had convinced him to do the show in the first place or something like that. But yeah, it's by far the dumbest death of the main cast. The shock and unexpectedness of it was cool though 
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The bus full of red shirts that mysteriously all died after the prison has to be up there for pointless deaths. It accomplished absolutely nothing apart from getting all of those people (all of whom we didn't even know or care about) off of the show. It led to the obligatory big dumb action sequence for the episode where Maggie/Bob/Sasha find it and then handle it in the worst way possible, and it didn't actually change how Maggie feels. Now instead of thinking that Glenn might be in danger and on the bus, she knows he wasn't on the bus but is still presumably in danger/dead and out there somewhere. Completely removing that bus and the dozen+ people who were on it would change literally nothing about the show.
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When I first saw the bus come in last season I had them all marked for dead, what I did not expect was for them to all die on that same bus, clever Walking Dead.
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Full Fathoms Five posted:It is a bit surprising simply because Of Mice and Men is basically required reading in every high school in the US, or every single one I've ever come across. That was the point I was making; that no book is standard nationwide. You have at best a few books every year you can cover over maybe six years, from a pool of hundreds. I know in Honors courses we got to pick from a list. I wouldn't even put good money on there being a universally studied Shakespeare play in American high schools. This is a weird derail, but it's helpful in the TVIV to not presume on the experience or knowledge of others. There literally aren't enough seconds in a lifetime. Everything I know about the Grapes of Wrath I learned from Nelson Muntz.
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Someone on another board noticed that the painting that Michonne picked up while in that house foreshadowed what happened to Lizzie. Painting also has the words "No No No," which is what Lizzie screamed at Carol when the latter went to kill the Tag Zombie. And it was "looking" at a flower. One more, with a photo of Lizzie. Lucania fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Mar 18, 2014 04:37
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I like how that girl has one eye and is behind bars - fitting visual motifs weve seen this half season.
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quote:The only misfire was the ending voiceover, which was super lame and totally unnecessary given what we saw. I dunno, that speech had two meanings, the one Carol meant it to have and the one Lizzie got through her crazy filter. Carol meant you have to turn hard and leave softer feelings behind as they are a luxury the new world doesn't allow and growing up means making hard choices. Lizzie heard it as 'you have to become a walking dead sooner or later and that's ok because that's what happens when you live long enough now.' She was just helping her little sister 'grow up.' Just like Carol wanted.
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Calling it now, they get to the state line to find that there's been a giant wall erected and it's only Georgia infected. Instead of trying to cure it, the rest of the world sent messages that it was global so they wouldn't try to leave before cutting contact, and sealed it off.
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This is harmless risk. Only if you're brave and shameless enough. Taking whiffs of girl's butts in public places, can ya do it? One easy place to start is at a strip club. Quite simple to do with the dancers. Whenever any of them talk to you, just ask "can I smell your butt?" To sweeten the deal, promise them that you'll buy a lap dance or two after they've turned around and let you smell their butt. I don't see that as a challenge, but for first timers that's a good way to get your nose wet and gain a little confidence. Another semi-safe way to get going is to start with girls you already know in some capacity. A friend, or someone you see and speak with on a fairly regular basis. It's easy to steer the conversation. Say you're talking about new year's resolutions. Most common is diet and exercise. And then you always talk about yourself and how much weight you need to lose and how much firming up you need to do. And then you blurt out "I'm so jealous of you. Your butt is PERFECT. Everytime I see it I want to just spread jelly on it and eat breakfast". Or something of a lesser sort if you're not that brave yet. But if you steer it right, now you've got the door open to talk about her butt just a little more. Take it where you want it. The hardest butts to sniff are those on girls that you don't know and won't speak to. You'll just sniff them. I did it once in a video store. When you see someone browsing the wall slowly and moving in your direction, drop down into a squat and start reading the backs of the video covers on the bottom shelf. If she stops near you, simply do the side shuffle and move very slightly closer to her. If she's already stopped right next to you, everything is set. If you see her preoccupied with looking at a video, take your chance to kind of lean in her direction and get your face as near to her butt as you dare. Close your eyes and inhale deeply. Be creative, there are many variations and ways to do it. In fact, I'll give you another freebie right now. In most stores they have things on the top shelf that are difficult to reach, and the sales associates use step ladders to get them for you. Identify an item, select a fine sales associate, and request her assistance with retrieving the item. "Hold" the ladder for her like a good gentleman, off to one side with one hand on the ladder is best. And then don't miss your opportunity when buttocks pass nose level. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I wonder if this episode format helps them save money since everyone isn't in every episode. I imagine Rick gets paid the most and he's barely in it.
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Wizard Master posted:This is harmless risk. Only if you're brave and shameless enough. Taking whiffs of girl's butts in public places, can ya do it? Uhhhh...what? I am glad that they took care of Lizzie. I do wonder what they will say to Rick and Co when they surely all meet up at Terminus.
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Wizard of Smart posted:Calling it now, they get to the state line to find that there's been a giant wall erected and it's only Georgia infected. Instead of trying to cure it, the rest of the world sent messages that it was global so they wouldn't try to leave before cutting contact, and sealed it off. This is how I like to imagine Attack on Titan, except with post-WWI Germany.
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TMMadman posted:Uhhhh...what? I imagine the typical knowing look between Tyreese and Carol, both with grim expressions, averting their gaze quickly, followed by "the girls didn't make it" Then it will never be mentioned again.
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