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sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Duke Igthorn posted:

I noticed that there is very little actual back and forth on Freep despite the smallness of the community
Because when everyone agrees with you, what's there to add beyond upping the game on bigotry so cartoonish Yosemite Sam would be like "it's been fun boys but I am out."

e: Also, while it's not a patch on some other places right now, as someone living in a city currently experiencing a nationally unprecedented level of civil disobedience, Freepers, shock horror, don't know a drat thing. It's one thing to get hard to the thought that the men with guns will totally be on your side, it's another thing to watch (even on TV) as your own police force starts wailing on "protesters".

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DrProsek posted:


:psyduck: wait why was FDR Obama I? Because he didn't join Germany in Operation Barbarossa? Because he didn't respond to Pearl Harbor by declaring war on a completely unrelated nation?

I seriously can't read this any other way than "We should have signed a Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact with Germany, if only we had a REAL AMERICAN president!" at best, at worst "My ideal outcome for WWII would have been a Nazi/American alliance"

Keep in mind that there were plenty of pro-Nazi support among some Americans prior to Pearl Harbor and the Nazi government's subsequent declaration of war on the U.S. Afterwards, many of those supporters realized that it wasn't a great idea cheerleading the people you're at war with. That, and eugenics was still a big thing with many people.

Take away the visual stigma of the Nazis and see how many people would get on board with their ideology.

pengun101 posted:

The coming civil war/RAHOWA always seems like it would go down like the reign of terror in the French Revolution. Just massive executions of anyone who wasn't "loyal" and anyone who was "progressive" or "feral". then they would inevitably turn on themselves until all that's left is DaleReed.

I bet the FReepers don't actually want a civil war/RaHoWa scenario - just an event that lets them shoot a few "looters" as they stand around, guns and beers in hand, "defending" their neighborhoods from "undesirables" for a few days.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



It'd probably be a lot worse then the reign of terror and resemble something like the Austrian conflicts in 1934 or the various dictatorial blood purges of the 1930s.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Duke Igthorn posted:

I noticed that there is very little actual back and forth on Freep despite the smallness of the community
A lot of it has to do with the various waves of purges and zotting so that the group that's left are the ones who've internalized all the components of the hivemind. They're all in agreement on most issues, and they don't dare disagree or start a discussion on anything, because that way leads to ostracization and zotting. So all that's left to do is agree with one another, or try to top each other with increasingly wild claims and fantasies and rhetoric - which is why all their threads about gay issues quickly devolve into grosser and grosser poo poo-horror talk.

If you do disagree or want to have an argument on Freep, you have to very careful and hedge your words in a very specific way, and even then there's a 50/50 chance you'll get zotted. So anyone interested in discussing anything gives up (or gets run off) and goes somewhere else, and the remaining freepers are even more made up people who don't challenge the hivemind.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Mind Loving Owl posted:

All freepers are Lord Voldemort and dalereed is their collective horcrux.


Actually have freepers ever written anything? Like say fan-fiction where they rode with Zimmerman or led a resistance movement against poor people being assisted in any way? I'm not talking their constant fantasizing I mean genuine attempts at narrative. Probably too lazy.

Mandatory: A brave goon and scholar has taken it upon himself to do a Let's Read of Enemies Foreign and Domestic down in TFR: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3506161

The first book has a literal (pun intended) shoutout to Freep.

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.
Police: 17 Attacks Involving Teen Mob (Louisville, KY)

quote:

To: Altura Ct.
Do I even need to look?


2 posted on 3/25/2014 12:07:40 PM by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
No.


3 posted on 3/25/2014 12:08:27 PM by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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quote:

To: Altura Ct.
So, they used to be called “negro”, then “African American”, and now they are called “teens”.

Man, I’m having a hard time keeping track of the vernacular.


5 posted on 3/25/2014 12:08:32 PM by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
So, they used to be called “negro”, then “African American”, and now they are called “teens”. Man, I’m having a hard time keeping track of the vernacular.
Round here, they are called Targets.

16 posted on 3/25/2014 12:14:45 PM by VRWCarea51
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To: Resolute Conservative
New Zealanders out running amok again?
Nope. Amish.

11 posted on 3/25/2014 12:10:20 PM by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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If you need more reasons to miss George W. Bush here's a big one...

quote:

To: Defiant
Bush was not a terrible president. Not by a long shot. Other than Reagan, he was by far the best in my lifetime. I have some major differences with him, and I think in particular he did a bad job of constraining government spending. He had solid tax reduction, we saw historically low unemployment under this policies, he let the free market work, and he oversaw the repair of the military after massive reduction under Clinton. He also stuck with the surge in his second term despite massive pressure to cut and run. We can argue the decision to go to Iraq and the strategy, but that was supported by all sides until the left decided to reverse course in 2003 and attack the republicans on the war.


15 posted on 3/25/2014 12:06:26 PM by ilgipper
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To: xzins
“...His strengths:

9/11 Response, Lowering taxes, Protection of Unborn/stem cells, 2d amendment, Alito, Energy promotion...”

Agreed. Big time.

Add TSA and DHS to the mistakes, though.


14 posted on 3/25/2014 12:05:47 PM by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
I agree.

Protecting our airflights is important but strip searching granny in the wheelchair and ignoring Mohammed in the turban is insanity.

TSA should have not happened. What we needed was the Israeli system with El Al. What we got was a combination of Elmer Fudd and Chairman Mao.

DHS is a terrible mistake. We only needed to turn the Coast Guard and the National Guard to their natural missions.


17 posted on 3/25/2014 12:11:36 PM by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: MrEdd
In hindsight, you may be right. I disagreed at the time with treating the Arabs with kid gloves, letting the Saudis leave the country, and all the "religion of peace" crap. They were saying that demonizing the enemy is wrong, when demonizing the enemy is good for national morale. If we had done more of that, we wouldn't have so many lawsuits by CAIR trying to impose sharia law, and we might not have been ready to elect Hussein to the presidency.
We were galvanized by his initial speeches, and then his people kicked rear end in Afghanistan. After that is when things started to go downhill.

21 posted on 3/25/2014 12:20:20 PM by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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Love that tagline: "Give me everything I want and I'll stop bitching and moaning :smuggo:"
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Obama: I'm Concerned About a Loose Nuke Being Detonated in Manhattan

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To: mbarker12474; onyx; Syncro; xzins
Obama is a loose nuke. Can’t be trusted, period. Sheesh, what a lame brain thing for him to say. This statement shows what an idiot Obama is. Especially off prompter.


33 posted on 3/25/2014 11:34:27 AM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Signal of intent.


3 posted on 3/25/2014 11:24:53 AM by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: TADSLOS
> Signal of intent.

BAM ...nail on the ead. Something is about to be used against the citizenry as a test for some new technology...


21 posted on 03/25/2014 9:30:35 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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quote:

To: TADSLOS
Signal of intent.
My first thought, too. That SOB.

37 posted on 03/25/2014 9:35:59 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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quote:

To: Jim Robinson
the solution is to outlaw and ban Islamic practice in the United States , and end all moslem immigration. That would be a good starting point , to prevent the Manhattan eventuality


7 posted on 3/25/2014 11:25:40 AM by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse
"The solution is to outlaw and ban Islamic practice in the United States."
Like the Japanese..! They do a good job keeping the scum out of their country....

41 posted on 03/25/2014 9:37:58 AM PDT by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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quote:

To: Jim Robinson
Silly minions... our weakness is actually strength. Thanks for the clarifications, Great Leader.

We live in an odd, hybrid Brave New 1984.
24 posted on 3/25/2014 11:31:43 AM by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Brave New 1984 Animal Farm while Atlas is Shrugging................


71 posted on 3/25/2014 11:48:20 AM by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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quote:

To: Jim Robinson
Total BS propaganda piece to solicit something from the sheeple. We have numerous nuclear sensors on the ground, in the air, and in space. There is ZERO chance anyone could move a nuke without detection.


44 posted on 3/25/2014 11:38:58 AM by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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quote:

To: Jim Robinson
Planting the seed of a nuke attack on Manhattan by a foreign power or terrorist, when he really plans a false-flag event to suspend the next election and stay president for more than 2 terms.


77 posted on 3/25/2014 11:51:40 AM by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Good old Obama.

Telegraphing his punches again.

Guaranteed: NYC in a mushroom cloud before his term is over.


100 posted on 3/25/2014 12:05:44 PM by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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quote:

To: Jim Robinson
Obama HOPES a nuke would go off in Manhattan, than he can declare martial law


116 posted on 3/25/2014 12:21:03 PM by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Jim Robinson
Starting a war is the time tested and classic way to rally the public to the leader’s side despite domestic problems.
I’m absolutely sure that 0bama wants a nuke to go off in NY or some other large city so that he and his team could further consolidate power, declare martial law and cancel elections.
Maybe the proto-dictator will try something.


121 posted on 3/25/2014 12:24:23 PM by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: demshateGod
“If I Had A Son..He’d Look Like Trayvon”.....comes to mind ...

this seemingly innocuous statement which set off a firestorm of street crime against WHITE PEOPLE...is of the same stripe as his NUKE statement.

He learned much from old Saul Alisnky.


119 posted on 3/25/2014 12:23:14 PM by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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Georgia Peach
Jan 7, 2005

SECESSION IS FUTILE

'There Were Actually Laws in America that Allowed Discrimination Against Black People Like Me'

Wall of text, but I might as well of highlighted the entire thing. tl;dr, discrimination is a God-given freedom.

quote:

To: AngelesCrestHighway
There is NOTHING wrong with exercising individual discrimination. Discrimination is nothing more than your God-given right and freedom to choose. Individuals and businesses have every right to discriminate however they want. And a state is constitutionally free to discriminate as long as it isn't forced segregation of black people (14th Amendment, the Slaughterhouse cases).

Because of the constant brainwashing against the freedom to discriminate, people's consciences have been trained to believe there's something wrong with the choice to exclude a person or a group. So a major hurdle is to correct and mend this evil (guilty) conscience individually and collectively, as a society.

Martin Luther King (MLK) was a strong influence to forward this evil conscience about discrimination - an individual's right to choose associations. MLK confused the individual morality issue of choosing to exclude blacks with the legal and constitutional issue of the federal government's power and authority to interfere with an individual's choices. (MLK has become some sort of "untouchable" - "Oh, how could you say that about MLK?")

So now, discrimination is generally thought of as a bad word. In American consciousness and lexicon, discrimination is a "bad" thing, making no distinction between an individual's legal right to discriminate and his private moral decision about whether it is "right" to do so. This evil conscience needs to be countered and corrected whenever and wherever possible because an individual has every legal right and duty to discriminate. This is not to be confused with an individual’s moral right and duty to examine how and where they exercise their right which is an issue between that person and his God and no one else. And the federal government has no constitutional power to interfere with either an individual’s legal right or moral right.

So an important step to in taking back our freedoms is changing the consciousness of as many people as possible in the country from thinking that discrimination is "bad" to realizing that discrimination is our God-given right of freedom of choice. Not a five-minute job and may very well require God himself to do that. But people like me will shout it from the mountaintops every chance we get.
2 posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:35:10 AM by PapaNew
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
As I recall, the Wookie wasn't even proud to be an American before Hisself was nominated in 2008.

The trash from the White House won't be removed until January 2017. Imagine how the place will stink after eight years.
5 posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:37:32 AM by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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quote:

To: AngelesCrestHighway

Are Wookies actually peeps?

11 posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:39:09 AM by Paladin2
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Let me tell you about DEMOCRATS

quote:

To: AngelesCrestHighway
No, Mrs. Obama, there were laws in America that required discrimination against black people like you, and they were all passed by legislatures controlled by Democrats.
13 posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:41:42 AM by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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quote:

To: ilovesarah2012

Discrimination?

Under the undocumented Tyrant, gangs of blacks
attack, rape and murder whites from Coast to Coast,
directed by Holder and the DO”J”, as they know
they are above all Law under the Tyrant.

6 posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:47:26 AM by Diogenesis
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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

quote:

To: AngelesCrestHighway

Are Wookies actually peeps?

11 posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:39:09 AM by Paladin2
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No, Wookies are not sugared marshmallow candy.

quote:

To: LeoWindhorse
"The solution is to outlaw and ban Islamic practice in the United States."
Like the Japanese..! They do a good job keeping the scum out of their country....

41 posted on 03/25/2014 9:37:58 AM PDT by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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Islam isn't banned in Japan. There are at least 50 recognized mosques throughout Japan and even a few Japanese imams.

Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Mar 25, 2014

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

DrProsek posted:

That's the part that made it so bizarre to me; I know Freep, like any website, is not a single person and so two people posting opposite views isn't unexpected or anything, but on Freep I notice people happily posting the whole 'Obama/the Democrats/the left in general are just like Hitler because they want to take your guns/make healthcare slightly more accessible/want you to pay taxes' thing, implying Hitler is bad, but then in another thread you can see people without controversy posting about how the wrong side won WWII. Freepers aren't exactly shy about accusing eachother of being liberal plants so it just seems really strange that comments like that don't warrant any real response.

I think they realize the only thing they have close to friends are the other freepers. There is a lot of freep/jimrob right or wrong sentiment on the site, still.

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone

Zeroisanumber posted:

^^William Luther Pierce was never a FReeper.


Hyper-nationalistic conservative jerk-off military porn.

No joke.

For serious!

Don't worry, the writer has Dragon's Fury free on his website and it's certainly something..


quote:

Ladies and gentlemen, the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States of America with regards to the matter now before the court, the re - hearing of the Roe V. Wade ruling originally decided in 1973 is as follows:
The human fetus, as a result of scientific proofs regarding the Human Reasoning Structures and their ex istence within the fetus, has been shown scientifically to be a living, thinking human. Based on this new evidence, the court finds unanimously that no individual, has the right to willfully terminate or cause injury to that human growing and developing w ithin the womb. Roe V. Wade is therefore unalterably over - turned based on this new evidence. “ Further, the court finds that the constitutional protection of life must be extended to the fetus, as it is extended to any other under - age child. The parent or other legal guardian shall be responsible for the health and welfare of that child like they would for any other. “

This is the unanimous legal finding and decision of this court, t here is no dissenting opinion. “ Now, in addition to the official, legal decision this court has just made, let me take the unprecedented step of adding a few of my own comments as a purely personal note. I want to ensure that it is understood by all, that what I am about to say represents my own personal feelings and is not repr esentative of any legal finding of this court. I do so because this ruling represents an unprecedented occurrence, and it speaks to an issue that has divided us as a free people, and stained our national consciousness for far too long.

For the last many years, this nation, through its legal process, has embarked on a course where we ruled legally that innocent human life, as has been shown in the recent months, could be systematically killed. I stand before you today, as do we all, in abject shame for th at decision and the holocaust it has now been shown to have produced. It is to the credit of every member of this court, regardless of what side of the issue that they had taken before, that when presented with this clear scientific evidence, every member ruled appropriately and quickly on what could only be the single legal ruling possible. No partisan political interpretation existed in this court today.

Would to God that we had all listened to our heart and to our conscience long before today and used our common sense to have risen above the partisan politics of the era and so ruled much earlier. There is no telling what expertise, what significance, what developments, what future we have denied ourselves because of the death of all of these tens of m illions who might otherwise have lived to endow and bless us with their presence...with their life. "


All over the nation the reaction came in on the ruling . From the many Christians conservatives who had been working and praying for years for just such a ruling, to the libertarians who quickly proposed a new platform plank taking into consideration the right to life of the now proven, reason ing fetus, to those individuals whose financial and intellectual well being had been vested in the abortion industry and the philosophy that demanded that a fetus be considered nothing more than a mass of tissue, reaction varied from quiet acceptance to protests against the ruling and counter - protests to those protests.

Many in the leadership of the National Endowment for Woman (NEW) vowed that they would conduct nation - wide civil disobedience and continue the practice of abortion in clinics where any doctor and their staffs would stand firm. The American Civil Liberties Union vowed to support this attempt and to make what they termed a principled stand for the rights of women to continue to do with their bodies as they pleased, despite the overwhelming scientific evidence that another human body existed within them, a body that was living and thinking.

In the end, the civil disobedience and the protests fizzled. The vast majority of Americans, even the more liberally minded, accepted the scientific evidence at its face value, and distanced themselves strongly from the radical supporters of abortion. Now that the national consciousness was awake to the fact that living human babies, capable of thought and reason, had been killed by the millions, a revival of sorts began sweeping the nation. No more than a dozen doctors and their staffs across the nation responded to the calls by the NEW and the ALCU organizations.

Those that did were subjected to massive counter protests organized in large part by the Independent Republic and other online internet organizations that immediately pointed out the location of these clinics and organized massive “ save the children ” protests.

Those “ save the children ” protests, organized by the Independent Republic Network, a confederation of Independent Republic chapters across the nation, caught the imagination of the American people and the rising revival spirit that was sweeping the nation. In every case, a handful of twenty or thirty protestors for abortion were confronted by thousands of protestors there to “ save the children ” .

The few doctors who had entertained thoughts of continuing the practice in some type of twisted protest for the rights of woman, as they prepared to terminate the life of now proven reasoning babies, quickly saw that any attempt on their part to do so would not only lead to potential jail time...it would lead to financial ruin as well. As a result, with no doctors or their staffs willing to take up the cause, the civil disobedience ended within three days, before it ever actually got started.

Nckdictator fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Mar 25, 2014

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


DemeaninDemon posted:

Good read between sets at the gym. Bwahahahahaha FDR, leader during the greatest war in US(world?) history, compared to their greatest boogy man.

FDR and Malcolm X are their greatest boogeymen. They hate Islam and threw away the Muslim vote because Islam caused an Afrikaner to fast with Malcolm X. They hate FDR because they're pissed off about WWII.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!
Pretty sure they hate FDR because he created the programs that became our societal safety net, not hitler fetishism.

Dirt5o8
Nov 6, 2008

EUGENE? Where's my fuckin' money, Eugene?

Wait...Dr. Seuss? Am I about to have my childhood ruined?

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
Look a little harder.

Although! Let your childhood be ruined, if you will:

http://www.tofugu.com/2013/02/20/dr-seuss/

Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May
I find their simultaneous love for W and hatred for FDR extremely entertaining. W was a LEADER and a WARRIOR PRESIDENT for handing us a loss to militiamen with homemade bombs but FDR was a COWARD and a SOCIALIST for organizing the largest seaborne invasion in the history of man. It galls them that FDR was the US's finest military commander in chief and he also believed in worker's rights, so they make up a fiction that lets them ignore all that.

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone

quote:

With no more talk, with no more fanfare, at noon on June 8th, the bombing began.
Waves of B-52H bombers performed the most intensive bombing raids since the Vietnam War… all concentrated on the one, city. Wave after wave, the bombers came throughout the 8th, 9th and 10th of June…non-stop.
Interspersed in with the ARC LITE bombing was the use of dozens of newly developed MOAB II area demolition bombs. Mammoth 60,000 pound bombs that were delivered by specially configured C-17 Globe Master transports, dubbed B-17 IIs. Each of those behemoths was capable of completely reducing entire city blocks. They were known as poor man's mini-non-nukes.
By the morning of the 9th, first hundreds…and then thousands of inhabitants and combatants began exiting the ruined city. Any who came out with weapons in their hands, or who otherwise attempted to fight were immediately shot down and killed.
Soon, all who came out were unarmed and nonbelligerent.
By the afternoon on the 9th, no major structure was left standing in the city. By noon on the 10th, when the bombing campaign ended, not one stone was standing left upon another within Mecca.
An eerie silence fell across the face of the countryside in and around the remains of the city. There was not so much as a moan coming from the ruins. .
That afternoon, allied scout, EOD and medic teams entered the city. Over a two day period, fewer than 500 injured were pulled from the mounds of rubble. By the 14th of June, all rescue and recovery efforts ceased. The allies did not intend to rebuild Mecca…they intended to send a message.
Over one hundred U.S. Army D-9 caterpillar bulldozers then appeared on the perimeter around the city and converged on it. They literally covered over the smoldering debris and smoothed it out in three days time. A flat, desolate landscape then occupied the ground where once Mecca stood. All debris, all ruined or discarded weapons-all bodies-had been buried there.
Atop this soil the allies sprinkled salt and then soaked the ground in swine fat. Around the perimeter, and interspersed every five hundred yards within, the following metal signs were erected:

Here stood Mecca, until it was occupied by barbarians, terrorists and desecrators
and those who harbored them, who then committed atrocities against the United
States of America and the United Kingdom and their allies.
Now there is nothing here but a desolation of pig-fat and salt.
Let the fate of this once great city be a clear message to all those who would
desecrate that which is holy and who would consider committing similar atrocities
against United States or United Kingdom forces, personnel or civilians.
To the innocent we allowed to escape we say-De Oppresso Libre!
To the barbarians who died here we say-Sic Simper Tyranis!

I can hear the writer jerking off.

bad news bareback
Jan 16, 2009

Nckdictator posted:

I can hear the writer jerking off.

I can smell it.

quote:

Let the fate of this once great city be a clear message to all those who would
desecrate that which is holy

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
You see, those guys quit when we dominate and massacre them. We'd plot vengeance, but not them, because. That's why this is such a great idea!

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Nckdictator posted:

I can hear the writer jerking off.

:allears:

Freepers, ladies and gentlemen.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.

quote:

poor man's mini-non-nukes

It rolls right off the tongue!

Also, why would you salt a desert?

ClownSyndrome
Sep 2, 2011

Do you think love can bloom on bob-omb Battlefield?
coat the land in pig fat, because Muslims must sleep in the soil from their native homeland to rejuvenate their moon-god powers

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
This dialogue is certainty something.

quote:

“Hey, blood! Wha’cha doin in there wit all dem crackers fo’ so long?”
Leon would recognize that voice anywhere, and turned in surprise toward the voice coming from across the street. Sure enough, there was his younger (couldn’t call him little anymore) brother, Alan,
leaning against a street lamp on the other side. Leon crossed over to join him.

“Alan, how did you get here? I know I been shakin’ yo’ sorry black hide for the last three
months. How’d ya do it?”

“Was simple, bro. You shook me every time, but every time we’s getting closa to somethin,’ and
I noticed a pattern. All’s I had to do was let dat pattern lead me here...and now here we is. You gonna
tell me what’s hangin’?”
Leon could hardly believe it. He knew he’d shaken Alan and several of the others. Obviously
he’d underestimated the willpower, and the reasoning ability, of his brother. It
gave him a lot of pride
to see it evidenced here, even if its display meant that he had been ‘found out.

“Well, I guess it had to come out sometime, bro. So here it is. Let’s sit down on that bench over
there and I’ll tell you it all...but fo’ right now, it’s gotta be between us. You’ll have to promise before I go on.”
Alan knew a promise was important on the street. He knew his brother wouldn’t ask him for one
unless he needed it. He also had gone to a lot of trouble, to find out what was going on. The decision
was simple.

“No problem, Leon. You shoulda trusted yo’ little bro a long time ago, ya know. So, I promise. Go ahead and spill it.”
For the next half hour, Leon explained to his little brother how he’d started thinking more and more about the things their momma had tried to tell them at home about a year-and-a- half ago.

At the
time, Leon was the man in the “Heat,” but he was smart enough to see that too many of the “men”
before him were either spending their time in the big house, or they were dead. He
didn’t want such a
future for himself or his brother, and he sure didn’t want to see his momma go through that. That had
led him to trying to find out what more there was to life. He started spending more time thinking about
making some kind of change than
about how to sell dope to crackers, or how to keep their rivals off
their turf. As time went on, all of those things associated with the “Heat” had started to lose their
importance. His change of focus had cost him his position in the “Heat,” but it also ultimately led him to confide in his mother’s brother, Jack, who worked as a janitor downtown.

“Jack told me to find some books about math, and English, and government and history, and to
start reading them. We always kind of looked down on him, ya know?
Figured he was some sort of
black honkey or somethin’—workin’ as a janitor for all those white people. But you know what? He’s got some money and a house of his own...not some “project” rental. And there ain’t no police chasin’
him all the time. He also ain’t
fightin’ every other week with his neighbors, an’ watchin’ his friends
get cut.”
Alan looked at his brother, he cared for him, but these words were so foreign to him that he was
having a tough time accepting them


“You know what, bro? It looks like Jerome
and the others was right. You lost it, bro. You gettin’
soft. When you ever worried ‘bout all this befo’? What’s got into you? You sho’ ‘nough lost it, bro.”
Leon loved his brother. The acceptance and scholarship to Boise State represented what he could do if he put his mind to it. And if he succeeded in breaking out of the trap that life “on the street” had
represented, he would be more determined than ever to help his brother do the same. He grabbed his brother’s arm with a fierceness that was born of de
termination. Alan was surprised.

He had gotten to
be almost as big as his older brother and thought he was in better shape. But the strength of that grip,
and the determination in his brother’s eyes, brought him up short. All he could do was listen.
“You listen and you listen good, Alan. I ain’t lost nothin’ but the ignorance I was in. I’ve been
comin’ down here to pull myself out of this trap we livin’ in. The politicians and all them rabble
rousin’ folks who always tell us we are owed somethin’ been lyin’
to us. Bro, they want us here. They want us havin’ to count on their programs and handouts. They want us to treat them like some sort of
king for takin’ other folks’ money and throwin’ it at us. But, look around! You see things gettin’ better? No, they ain’t! And thy ain’t because they ain’t meant to! What those folks really want is us
dependent on them.”


“I’ve been readin’ about history and how this country was formed, Alan. I’ve been readin’ about how folks, from all over the world, wanted to come here...and still do. I got on the internet and got me
an email account. I’ve been talkin’ to folks from all over. One kid down in Texas I’ve come to know
pretty well is white and his family works real hard on a farm. He’s my age and thinks a lot the way I do. Guess what? They ain’t rich, but they have things for themselves. He’s goin’ to Boise, Idaho this
fall on a football scholarship. At first I thought it was just ‘cause they was white. Then I learned it was
‘cause they was willin’ to work and learn. Well, I dec
ided I’m willin’ to do that too.”


At this point, Alan interrupted him. “Yea, bro. But what you got from it all?
Nothin’ but a bunch of hours in a buildin’ filled wit books. You know how it is, them white folks, even the poor ones, they can get ahead...not you, and not me. We got to take what we can.”


Leon was frustrated. He knew his brother was just spouting the propaganda of politicians and
bureaucrats who wanted nothing more than to keep folks like Alan dependent on their programs, to
keep them mired in ignorance and poverty and fighting the “system.” But, although Leon was
frustrated, he wasn’t about to give up on his brother.
“No! Alan, that’s the trap. They want you to think it’s owed to you. Or, better yet, vote them in
and let them take it for you. But
that ain’t how it is, and you know it. You are only owed what you
earn, Alan...anywhere in life, including the street. Anyone tells you different is a liar and trying to
control you. And you know what? The folks that founded this country? Yeah, they made some
mistakes. But whatever mistakes they made, they knew what I’m talkin’ to you about, an they didn’t design it to work to keep folks like us down. Well, for me...no more. Look here.”
As he said this, Leon took his High School Equivalency, and his acceptance
to Boise State, out
and showed them to his brother. Alan wasn’t too good at reading, so Leon read it for him.
“You see, Alan, I did this for myself. Even learned how to talk real English, and learned Algebra
and Geometry. There are some folks in that libra
ry who took a liking to me and helped me, and I want you to meet them.”
“Guess what, Alan? They’s white folks, and they treated me the way grandparents would treat
one of their own. Now I got some learning, I’m going to college to get more, and I got some
honest money. I’m leaving for Boise in six weeks. I’m taking momma with me, and I want you to come too.”
Alan was floored. He was thinking on what his brother had said. He could see the fire in his eyes,
and when he thought about it, he could see the truth
of it.

“But, Leon, what would I be doin’ there?”
Leon looked at his younger brother and knew he was willing, but also knew he was
apprehensive. It wouldn’t be easy, but he knew Alan could do it.
“Well, we’ll start by getting you over to this library right
now and helping you learn, then we’ll
continue over there in Boise. You may go to school Alan, but I promise, it’ll because you want to, not
because you have to.

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Wow. That is so patronizing and condescending. This is the first time I've ever not laughed at the ignorance in the Freep thread.
i can't even put into words all the ways that makes me angry. "See black people? All you gotta do is try and all white people everywhere will ldove you and treat you like a grandchild!"

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.

Swan Oat posted:

It rolls right off the tongue!

Also, why would you salt a desert?

To SEND a MESSAGE

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

quote:

And you know what? The folks that founded this country? Yeah, they made some
mistakes. But whatever mistakes they made, they knew what I’m talkin’ to you about, an they didn’t design it to work to keep folks like us down.
I just want to emptyquote this 50 times.

That whole slavery thing, they made some mistakes. But they didn't design it to keep any group of folks down.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Guavanaut posted:

I just want to emptyquote this 50 times.

That whole slavery thing, they made some mistakes. But they didn't design it to keep any group of folks down.

You missed the operative portion "any folks like us down."

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Duke Igthorn posted:

Wow. That is so patronizing and condescending. This is the first time I've ever not laughed at the ignorance in the Freep thread.
i can't even put into words all the ways that makes me angry. "See black people? All you gotta do is try and all white people everywhere will love you and treat you like a grandchild!"

Yep, just got to show white people that you truly want an education and you're part of the family!

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

What is it about white racists and writing black characters explicitly to agree with their viewpoint? You see this in the political cartoon thread too, where Thread Favourite Chris Muir has created a black mouthpiece which he uses to explain how in fact white people are superior to the poor coloured folks. I mean I know they want validation for their beliefs, but you'd think they'd be a little bit more circumspect than "White people are great! - A Black Man" - A White Man.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

BBJoey posted:

What is it about white racists and writing black characters explicitly to agree with their viewpoint? You see this in the political cartoon thread too, where Thread Favourite Chris Muir has created a black mouthpiece which he uses to explain how in fact white people are superior to the poor coloured folks. I mean I know they want validation for their beliefs, but you'd think they'd be a little bit more circumspect than "White people are great! - A Black Man" - A White Man.

Because if you can conjure up even one example of you being right then it validates your argument. So a black man saying a thing you agree with IRT race validates it.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Nckdictator posted:

*furious masturbating about nuking Mecca here*

I just about busted a gut when I hit the part about the heroes sprinkling the ground with pig fat. :allears:

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

BBJoey posted:

What is it about white racists and writing black characters explicitly to agree with their viewpoint? You see this in the political cartoon thread too, where Thread Favourite Chris Muir has created a black mouthpiece which he uses to explain how in fact white people are superior to the poor coloured folks. I mean I know they want validation for their beliefs, but you'd think they'd be a little bit more circumspect than "White people are great! - A Black Man" - A White Man.

You are asking for a level of introspection that these people literally do not have. This is a group that thinks "but I'm right, they're wrong." and "I'm good, they're evil" is a license to do whatever they want. They think it's okay for us to torture people because, "we're the good guys."

The thing that stuck out to me as somewhat entertaining is that the AAVE in that dialogue is all hosed up. For being the kind of person who would claim that AAVE is easy to reproduce, they sure hosed up reproducing it. They hosed up reproducing a dialect they maintain is just a bunch of dumb people not knowing how to talk. So by their logic they must be profoundly more stupid than the people they're accusing of being dumb.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

ErIog posted:

You are asking for a level of introspection that these people literally do not have. This is a group that thinks "but I'm right, they're wrong." and "I'm good, they're evil" is a license to do whatever they want. They think it's okay for us to torture people because, "we're the good guys."

The thing that stuck out to me as somewhat entertaining is that the AAVE in that dialogue is all hosed up. For being the kind of person who would claim that AAVE is easy to reproduce, they sure hosed up reproducing it. They hosed up reproducing a dialect they maintain is just a bunch of dumb people not knowing how to talk. So by their logic they must be profoundly more stupid than the people they're accusing of being dumb.

Have you seen the part of his site where he builds and reviews models of USN ships? He's like the ur-example of everyone's crazy conservative uncle.

http://www.freewebs.com/jeffhead/modelbuilds/

Badera
Jan 30, 2012

Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

Swan Oat posted:


quote:

poor man's mini-non-nukes
It rolls right off the tongue!

Also, why would you salt a desert?

That loving quote. Holy poo poo.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

BBJoey posted:

What is it about white racists and writing black characters explicitly to agree with their viewpoint? You see this in the political cartoon thread too, where Thread Favourite Chris Muir has created a black mouthpiece which he uses to explain how in fact white people are superior to the poor coloured folks. I mean I know they want validation for their beliefs, but you'd think they'd be a little bit more circumspect than "White people are great! - A Black Man" - A White Man.

A lot of stupid motherfuckers still can't quite understand racism, and seem to beleive that if a black person says it, its instantly not racist ( see also: responding to being called racist with "buh-buh-but Herman Cain!").

Thus, if you make your mouthpiece spew out your racist bullshit, it can't be racist, cause a black guy said it.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Swan Oat posted:

It rolls right off the tongue!

Also, why would you salt a desert?

Because the Romans did it to the Carthaginians, they're mortal enemies. America is the new Rome and Islam is our Carthaginians. Or something.

Mind Loving Owl
Sep 5, 2012

The regeneration is failing! Hooooo...

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Because the Romans did it to the Carthaginians, they're mortal enemies. America is the new Rome and Islam is our Carthaginians. Or something.

So when do the orgies and binging and purging start?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Mind Loving Owl posted:

So when do the orgies and binging and purging start?

I've been doing that for years, I don't know what you're waiting for.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
I don't like diving deep into the quotes people post, I start feeling more and more gross. So, I appreciate freeper VRWCarea51 for getting across his naked bigotry in as few words as possible without actually using any slurs because that's what The Real Racists do. (Though, why can't I use the N-word?)

Also, the fact that someone was praising Bush for Alito is reason enough that I can't vote for a Republican into any office ever again. One of them might appoint someone a Freeper likes to a lifetime position.

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Dec 26, 2008



Mind Loving Owl posted:

So when do the orgies and binging and purging start?

It started in 2008 :getin:

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