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So how awesome is the Lu Bu stuff? Because I feel like that's what may be the decider in getting this for the PS3 or just waiting until I get a PS4
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Argh, in Ambition mode if you are fame capped you can lose out on named characters as well as the nobodies. Also I am supposing it is because I am just starting out, but it is hard to get the consecutive battles needed going to get the real characters recruited, as I am always hurting for time, and sometimes hurting for health from the consecutive battles. Evil Canadian fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Mar 27, 2014 07:20
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Don't get too collection happy on officers, by the way. Once you build the palace (I refuse to spell its name) and talk to the minister All but about 30 or so of your officers will leave you, and you have to fight them again Basically try to bumrush on getting good weapons set up. You need the four facilities that are listed at 50, which takes quite a bit of materials grinding. (It helps if you have someone overseeing the farmland, because sometimes when you talk to them they say they found something and'll give you about ten or so materials. Also use the barracks whenever you can for extra supplies.) EDIT: If it isn't obvious by now, I'm basically having an insomnia induced playthrough at the moment. Checking and posting during loading screens. Drakenel fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Mar 27, 2014 07:23
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Evil Canadian posted:Argh, in Ambition mode if you are fame capped you can lose out on named characters as well as the nobodies. You might already know this but For consecutive battles just keep playing supply missions over and over. With the right weapons you can beat them in 5-15 seconds each, maximum 30.
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Mar 27, 2014 07:30
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Alright I never played vanilla DW8 so some of the new mechanics are a little confusing to me, and the digital manual isn't that helpful(shocking!): 1. When my guy starts a storm rush, do I have to keep tapping square? It seems like if I don't tap I get less chain hits. I might just be around less people when that happens though. Also, is it worth switching to manual control for them? Again, the manual says you'll start a storm rush when the spirit meter symbol thing above the enemy's head drains, but I've started them after only a couple hits and with the meter thing still full? 2. What's the best use of Rage? Should I bother using regular attacks, or just Rage and hold O right away? I tried treating like Pirate Warriors 2's Style Mode, but your musou meter starts full so there's nothing to build up? 3. Why do I always max out Guan Yu first? Oh that's right cuz he rules, brother. 
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Mar 27, 2014 08:17
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Less taps is less hits. I can't answer the part about the manual rushin' since I haven't played XL yet. Also, the best use of RAGE is to attack normally and when it's just about to run out, then use the true attack. It will continue for as long as your Musou gauge is full, and if you keep finding Musou bottles then you will keep raging across the battlefield until you get tired or all the enemies die.
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Mar 27, 2014 08:25
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Drakenel posted:You get +30 feat for a successful bodyguard ploy, so yeah. Also, it looks like you get feat for playing levels in free mode. Free mode now includes bodyguards it seems, but I just did a level (Yellow Turban Rebellion) on hard, without any bodyguards, and went from level 1 leadership to level 7. I don't know if you gain it from doing the new battle objectives or what.
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Mar 27, 2014 15:06
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Jibo posted:1. They changed Zhang Liao's voice actor and he is not nearly as good. Kind of sounds like Liu Bei now.
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Mar 27, 2014 15:11
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kissekatt posted:THIS SERIES IS DEAD TO ME As long as Lu Bu is voiced by Jamieson Price, everyone else can be voiced by Gilbert Gottfried for all I care.
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Mar 27, 2014 15:23
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SirPhoebos posted:As long as Lu Bu is voiced by Jamieson Price, everyone else can be voiced by Gilbert Gottfried for all I care. Doing his story mode has been great. Getting to see Lu Bu be the loving though mostly negligent father is kinda weird though. Hopefully I can unlock the hypothetical route today and see if his luck improves.
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Mar 27, 2014 15:25
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SirPhoebos posted:As long as Lu Bu is voiced by Jamieson Price, everyone else can be voiced by Gilbert Gottfried for all I care. I would pay premium for dlc for Gilbert Gottfried VA for DW characters. edit- I was raising leadership level without even being aware of how I was doing so, because when I saw you could issue orders to your officers I latched right onto it in the first fight I had one. If it's one feature I enjoyed immensely from the 'Empires' games, it was the ability to issue orders to subordinates in order to hold down the line. How is the bodyguard hiring fee raised though? I assume I'd probably figure that out on my own after playing more. I put the game in, and went straight for ambition mode, and have only gotten through enough of the annoying tutorial crap to get the barracks set up. 5er fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Mar 27, 2014 15:57
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Bodyguard limits is raised through leadership level. Literally. Also I've learned to never give Ling Tong command. Ever. Drakenel fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Mar 27, 2014 17:17
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It's weird to compare Naotora in Basara and Musou, neither of them went the way I expected. Basara Naotora is out to make a world where poor little girls don't get pushed around by thoughtless military assholes...and then in the end someone says "dude look in a mirror!" and they all laugh about it. In Musou on the other hand, she has this schtick where she starts saying something badass, but then she apologizes and goes all moe afterwards. I guess all the personality types that would otherwise go to an actual female daimyo in the series were used up by characters like Ginchiyo and such? edit: Koshosho is a great addition to the series though, and makes a great comedy trio with Gracia and Motochika. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Mar 27, 2014 18:01
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Samurai Sanders posted:In Musou on the other hand, she has this schtick where she starts saying something badass, but then she apologizes and goes all moe afterwards. I guess all the personality types that would otherwise go to an actual female daimyo in the series were used up by characters like Ginchiyo and such?
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Mar 27, 2014 19:06
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Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate PS3 vs. PS4 version comparison screenshots.
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Mar 27, 2014 19:57
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The Yellow Turban Rebellion being led by the Robot Devil is cracking me up.
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Mar 27, 2014 23:24
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So is Dynasty Warriors 8 and Xtreme Legends worth the investment? I platinum'd Empires, but the urge for a more standard DW game is itching away at my brain.
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Mar 27, 2014 23:58
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kissekatt posted:THIS SERIES IS DEAD TO ME I think it's Steve Blum just in a slightly higher tone than his normal obvious self... Although I'd forgotten that Blum was Sun Jian back in DW4 (at least)
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Mar 28, 2014 00:05
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5er posted:I would pay premium for dlc for Gilbert Gottfried VA for DW characters. Same. I'd pay double for him to voice female character voicepack.  My lord Lu Bu!
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Mar 28, 2014 00:39
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Drakenel posted:Don't get too collection happy on officers, by the way. Once you build the palace (I refuse to spell its name) and talk to the minister All but about 30 or so of your officers will leave you, and you have to fight them again Basically try to bumrush on getting good weapons set up. You need the four facilities that are listed at 50, which takes quite a bit of materials grinding. (It helps if you have someone overseeing the farmland, because sometimes when you talk to them they say they found something and'll give you about ten or so materials. Also use the barracks whenever you can for extra supplies.) How do you get good weapons set up? Is there some sort of strategy to reforging? It seems like it's just use up 3 random weapons to get 2 random weapons.
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Mar 28, 2014 02:04
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Shinjobi posted:So is Dynasty Warriors 8 and Xtreme Legends worth the investment? I platinum'd Empires, but the urge for a more standard DW game is itching away at my brain. Yes, complete edition is a pretty good deal. I just got Lu Bu's hypothetical route, and that song that starts playing is so drat good. It might be my grinding theme of choice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiTblW4WIf8
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Mar 28, 2014 02:32
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The Moon Monster posted:How do you get good weapons set up? Is there some sort of strategy to reforging? It seems like it's just use up 3 random weapons to get 2 random weapons. Reforging isn't what you want to do. Upgrade the blacksmith till you get Weapon Fusion. Try to get the augments that increase attack power and the one that increases attack speed. (The augments that level go up to ten. Tenth level attack speed is hilariously overpowered)
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Mar 28, 2014 03:08
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Chortles posted:Considering what was previously said about KOEI's characterizing of female characters being so animu we might as well have a :koei: tag. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Mar 28, 2014 |
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Mar 28, 2014 04:01
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Anyone played the Complete Edition on Vita? I was thinking about picking it up because DW is pretty fun and a nice game for mobile play. My only worry is that the game will run like garbage. If the 360 couldn't run DW8 what chance does the Vita have.
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Mar 28, 2014 04:15
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ChaosReaper posted:Anyone played the Complete Edition on Vita? I was thinking about picking it up because DW is pretty fun and a nice game for mobile play. My only worry is that the game will run like garbage. If the 360 couldn't run DW8 what chance does the Vita have. The frame rate dips sometimes, particularly during Rage mode, so it's a standard portable version for the series. My only complaint is that there's some texture loading issues with water and fire, causing them to be empty voids for a few seconds.
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Mar 28, 2014 04:18
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ChaosReaper posted:Anyone played the Complete Edition on Vita? I was thinking about picking it up because DW is pretty fun and a nice game for mobile play. My only worry is that the game will run like garbage. If the 360 couldn't run DW8 what chance does the Vita have.  This happened to a friend of mine when he used Lu Bu's air Musou once. Other than that I've heard it's solid.
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Mar 28, 2014 04:18
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Lu Bu is so powerful, he can destroy you game and system.
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Mar 28, 2014 04:23
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Lu Bu destroy you game, man. Ambition is so, so grindy. I'll probably never play it again once I finish it. Can't wait for empires...
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Mar 28, 2014 04:26
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Samurai Sanders posted:Actually, I find female characters in Musou significantly more progressive than in most Japanese games. Not perfect, but better. The male characters almost always treat them as equals. I assume it's a result of it having so many female fans these days. It's part of the reason I like the series so much.
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Mar 28, 2014 05:40
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Dj Meow Mix posted:Yes, complete edition is a pretty good deal.
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Mar 28, 2014 05:40
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Drakenel posted:Lu Bu destroy you game, man. I can't imagine it on a console, but on the Vita it's a neat enough way to kill 5 minutes on the bus or lunch.
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Mar 28, 2014 05:56
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Chortles posted:That the Musou franchise is actually on the better end of the spectrum I personally find horrifying for what that alludes to about "most Japanese games."
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Mar 28, 2014 05:59
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You have to look past their anime faces/costumes and see more subtle things like that both they and the male characters feel that it's everyone's equal responsibility to protect their clan, and that if someone gets kidnapped or however compromised and in need of saving, it's going to happen to men and women about equally. Most of the women are still basically in support roles, wives supporting their husbands, but they're doing it by galloping off into battle in front and killing their husbands' enemies for them, and I can live with that. But I mean, we ARE talking pretty low standards of "progressive" here in general; it's video games after all. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Mar 28, 2014 |
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Mar 28, 2014 06:09
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What struck me though is that ever since the TECMO merger the characterization seems to have regressed compared to pre-merger games, i.e. Zhenji's characterization lately... that, and lately it seems like the cliche bombs hit even harder, although at least these days there's a heavy dose of "historyyyyy" and neat references to balance out that.
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Mar 28, 2014 06:35
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I was going to make a post about how I'm really disappointed about how they sorta dropped the ball on Lu Lingqi but I'm going to be honest, I expected them to be a lot lazier with how they were going to handle her. The fact they managed to stuff as much characterization as they did in the historical route is honestly better than the last XL additions and most of the new guys in 8.
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Mar 28, 2014 07:14
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I was kinda surprised at the lack of "benevolence" in the shu campaign considering how much talk of Chaos and Ambition there is in the Wei campaign, right up until Zhuge Liang first appears and I have just hit a benevolent brick wall.
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Mar 28, 2014 08:55
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ChaosReaper posted:Anyone played the Complete Edition on Vita? I was thinking about picking it up because DW is pretty fun and a nice game for mobile play. My only worry is that the game will run like garbage. If the 360 couldn't run DW8 what chance does the Vita have. It kinda runs like garbage, but it's still fun and portable DW is awesome. The framerate is mostly okay, except for when it isn't  I should really be going for the "get first in all challenges" trophy while there's only 100 or so scores up on the leaderboard. I always have to go through Story mode once for each faction first though, don't know why. New DW game ritual I've had since 3 or so.
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Mar 28, 2014 09:44
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Static Rook posted:I always have to go through Story mode once for each faction first though, don't know why. New DW game ritual I've had since 3 or so. Same here, always do the story campaign before anything else, guess it's a holdover from when your only options were musou mode or free mode and maybe some pointless challenges. VVVV Yeah, that's pretty weird, just pick a faction and stick with it.
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Mar 28, 2014 09:51
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I always go through the story modes each one stage at a time, rather than playing any one story mode right down. Is that weird?
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Those Trophies say "get rank number 1" in xyz, but they are not actually tied to the leaderboards are they? If so they would be ridiculous and unachievable in quick order.
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