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Doc Hawkins posted:More analog RPGs should have endings imo rocks fall is an ending
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Apr 6, 2014 01:35
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Every game ends, but not every game truly lives
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Apr 6, 2014 01:40
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Doc Hawkins posted:Every game ends, but not every game truly lives -an australian man roleplaying a scot
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Apr 6, 2014 01:42
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Gerund posted:rocks fall is an ending gently caress Neverwinter Nights 2 for pulling that poo poo. They should've just pulled a "Everyone lives happily ever after" bullshit ending instead of doing that poo poo.
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Apr 6, 2014 01:44
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SunAndSpring posted:gently caress Neverwinter Nights 2 for pulling that poo poo. They should've just pulled a "Everyone lives happily ever after" bullshit ending instead of doing that poo poo. All the Neverwinter Nights 2 characters were either morons or jackasses, though.
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Apr 6, 2014 01:51
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Doc Hawkins posted:In nocturne satan is a) two people and b) a fourth (fifth?) choice which ends the progression of universes and drowns all things in darkness as your character leads all demons in existence to march in war on The Creator, aka the greatest ending in video rpg history besides the chrono trigger one where Luca and marle Check Out Dudes thats lucifer bro cmon we just did this whole thing
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Apr 6, 2014 02:03
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Rocks fall. No Save. Final Destination.
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Apr 6, 2014 02:04
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01011001 posted:thats lucifer bro cmon we just did this whole thing wasn't sure, should have been more careful, mea culpa
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Apr 6, 2014 02:06
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if there was a hell for rpg sins i'd be in sooooo much trouble
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Apr 6, 2014 02:07
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yeah youd be down there with satan and hed be all "i am not lucifer you gently caress"
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Apr 6, 2014 02:09
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satan and lucifer are basically the same thing. awesome.
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Apr 6, 2014 02:17
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yo hold on, how is lucifer not in hell
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Apr 6, 2014 02:20
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red plastic cup posted:All the Neverwinter Nights 2 characters were either morons or jackasses, though. Hey man, Neeshka, Khelgar, and Sand were bros.
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Apr 6, 2014 02:20
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the greatest trick lucifer ever pulled was leaving satan with the mortgage
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Apr 6, 2014 02:21
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mr satan is the great hero of earth tho
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Apr 6, 2014 02:25
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SunAndSpring posted:Hey man, Neeshka, Khelgar, and Sand were bros. moron. moron. jackass. shandra and that one cleric are the only real exceptions and one dies and the other has maybe 10 lines of dialogue that arent info dumps.
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Apr 6, 2014 02:41
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Doc Hawkins posted:yo hold on, how is lucifer not in hell 01011001 posted:yeah youd be down there with
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Apr 6, 2014 02:48
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red plastic cup posted:moron. moron. jackass. I didn't say they were smart or particularly polite. Can't say anything about the MotB cast because I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to beat the Red Wizard, the Gnolls, and the loving Devil that almost invariably is summoned in the first town because there's no one to tank for me, so I'm stuck.
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Apr 6, 2014 03:11
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Fair
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Apr 6, 2014 05:42
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Neither! ha-Satan isn't mentioned until the Book of Job and Lucifer doesn't appear until much much later (Isaiah, I think). The snake in genesis is just The Serpent. missed this convo, but the "lucifer" in the book of isaiah's the latin translation of the hebrew word for day-star. isaiah was using the day-star as a metaphor for, gently caress, probably like the decadence and pride of the israelite nation or something. when the old testament got translated into the latin vulgate, the translator missed the metaphor and translated that bit like isaiah was talking to a guy named lucifer. later theologians working out of the vulgate saw that and started conflating lucifer with ha satan (lit. 'the satan') from the book of job and the demons that jesus casts out of some dumb gently caress in matthew and mark into one dude, then started mixing in stuff like the serpent from genesis and stuff from zoroastrianism to create teh concept of the devil as the adversary of god
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Apr 6, 2014 06:26
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stoutfish posted:mr satan is the great hero of earth tho
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Apr 6, 2014 06:27
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YHWH and lucifer??? more like ahura mazda and ahriman!!!
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Apr 6, 2014 06:33
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Doc Hawkins posted:Every game ends, but not every game truly lives do you think you could get away with ", but not every game truly begins" here to make this read better
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Apr 6, 2014 06:51
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Bottom line Lucifer is sorta your bro in like half the SMT games even if you move against him because hey, neutral means you're rebelling against everyone, which still counts as rebelling.
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Apr 6, 2014 08:43
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Plutonis posted:YHWH and lucifer??? more like ahura mazda and ahriman!!! im the demiurge
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Apr 6, 2014 16:18
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Ferrinus posted:do you think you could get away with ", but not every game truly begins" here to make this read better I was trying to get a fate point for my 'comically incompetent' aspect
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Apr 6, 2014 18:34
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i mean, conceivably "begins" doesn't work in the metaphor somehow, who can really say. honestly though it seems like dies/lives would've been just fine
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Apr 6, 2014 18:37
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What are the good boardgame/RPG hybrids other than Descent and WFRP3e. Even better if they don't actually require anything other than books and standard dice
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Apr 6, 2014 20:36
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LSTB posted:What are the good boardgame/RPG hybrids other than Descent and WFRP3e. Even better if they don't actually require anything other than books and standard dice How would they be a boardgame/RPG hybrid if they only required the books and standard dice? Wouldn't that just be a tabletop roleplaying game? Unless that was the joke...
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Apr 6, 2014 20:47
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Covok posted:How would they be a boardgame/RPG hybrid if they only required the books and standard dice? Wouldn't that just be a tabletop roleplaying game? They wouldn't be a hybrid, you are right. I guess was I mean is, very low usage of Rule Zero (when in doubt, GM's word is law) aside from what's absolutely necessary to keep the game from grinding to a halt.
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Apr 6, 2014 20:58
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ProfessorCirno posted:Bottom line Lucifer is sorta your bro in like half the SMT games even if you move against him because hey, neutral means you're rebelling against everyone, which still counts as rebelling. gently caress him with a rake on the devil survivor boss fight though.
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Apr 6, 2014 21:32
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LSTB posted:They wouldn't be a hybrid, you are right. I guess was I mean is, very low usage of Rule Zero (when in doubt, GM's word is law) aside from what's absolutely necessary to keep the game from grinding to a halt. 4e works fine for this in the same environments that you play descent in (fight-shop-level-fight). it doesn't have very robust or non-handwavey rules for anything else but then neither does descent really
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Apr 6, 2014 22:05
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LSTB posted:What are the good boardgame/RPG hybrids other than Descent and WFRP3e. Even better if they don't actually require anything other than books and standard dice 
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Apr 6, 2014 22:22
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I wish there was a version of Battletech that didn't have rules that were so dense and complex as to be unintelligible, because gigantic robots shooting each other is cool and sounds like fun to play
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Apr 6, 2014 22:33
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What I remember about Battletech was that the overwhelming strategy was to canter in a slight circle to the right or left around your target, no matter the weapon, mech or terrain.
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Apr 6, 2014 22:36
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tatankatonk posted:I wish there was a version of Battletech that didn't have rules that were so dense and complex as to be unintelligible, because gigantic robots shooting each other is cool and sounds like fun to play Battletech's rules aren't dense or complex, it's just not a very streamlined game once you start doing stuff like pushing a robot off a skyscraper so it hits another building that some other robot is hiding in and gets displaced into a squad of infantry with laser rifles and vibro-axes riding pterodactyls and then crashes through the floor of the mobile city block you're fighting on in the middle of a forest fire on the side of an erupting volcano on Venus. I'd say that the game is less complex than Warmahordes/40k/D&D, but has more book-keeping to do. Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Apr 6, 2014 22:43
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Gerund posted:What I remember about Battletech was that the overwhelming strategy was to canter in a slight circle to the right or left around your target, no matter the weapon, mech or terrain. an accurate description of pre-3050 play
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Wales Grey posted:Battletech's rules aren't dense or complex, it's just not a very streamlined game once you start doing stuff like pushing a robot off a skyscraper so it hits another building that some other robot is hiding in and gets displaced into a squad of infantry with laser rifles and vibro-axes riding pterodactyls and then crashes through the floor of the mobile city block you're fighting on in the middle of a forest fire on the side of an erupting volcano on Venus. Isn't there a Battletech RPG? I might be thinking of that, and not the actual tabletop robot game
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Apr 6, 2014 22:47
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tatankatonk posted:Isn't there a Battletech RPG? I might be thinking of that, and not the actual tabletop robot game Mechwarrior first and second edition are both an awful jumbled mess of rules and have no real direction, the third edition/Classic Battletech RPG is kind of okay I guess, and the current edition of "Battletech RPG" is named "Battletech: A Time of War" and I have no real experience with it/any opinion on it. edit: looking at the quickstart packet, you can put a character on a half-sheet of paper no issue so it can't be that bad Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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LSTB posted:They wouldn't be a hybrid, you are right. I guess was I mean is, very low usage of Rule Zero (when in doubt, GM's word is law) aside from what's absolutely necessary to keep the game from grinding to a halt. I thought Rule Zero was "don't give the DM any ideas" sort of like that whole "choose the form of the Destructor" thing from Ghostbusters.
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