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Non Serviam posted:That's not it either. He's saying (and I disagree with him) that a big chunk of metal glorifies evil and that it can be a moral disease. It isn't so much against metal, but rather against the way in which the scene has been shaped. This is like seeing that Gaahl "...Satan" video and not cracking up. Some people just take the schtick too seriously. There are some hosed up people in metal, but I really don't think the "evil" imagery is the root of that. hail satan
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IRQ posted:This is like seeing that Gaahl "...Satan" video and not cracking up. Some people just take the schtick too seriously. Hail Satan, friend.  just in case.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQVVS0pFn0
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m-o-o-n posted:Speaking of has-beens, here's the turnout for Metal All Stars in Helsinki, Finland last night
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m-o-o-n posted:Speaking of has-beens, here's the turnout for Metal All Stars in Helsinki, Finland last night
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m-o-o-n posted:Holy moly he's literally mr. Mackey whoever this dingus is posted:I am a non-denominational Christian who believes in Good, God, Christ and the Spirit And that's our cue that this dude's an idiot who has no clue what he's talking about.
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Insomnium has their 3rd new song up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZ5SLJmfdw Unfffffffffff, can't wait for the new album. e: Apologies if this is a repost. hopterque fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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FYI, the new Triptykon leaked. It's loving bleak, but I expect nothing less of Tom G. Warrior.
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Friends Are Evil posted:FYI, the new Triptykon leaked. It's loving bleak, but I expect nothing less of Tom G. Warrior. I'm exceedingly excited to hear that album.
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I'm jealous of people who live in Brooklyn. St. Vitus Bar seems to have the best one-off shows of any venue around since NYC is home to so much experimental black and death metal (in addition to tour stops)...Pyrrhon just played with Kayo Dot, and on 5/19, they'll be playing with Castevet, Artificial Brain, and Thantifaxath, which is one of the better lineups I've seen in a while. Oh, and right before that: Negura Bunget 5/9 Ulcerate 5/10 Solstafir 5/16 And the days after: Coffins 5/20 Cripple Bastards/Hooded Menace/Maruta 5/21 Excruciating Terror/Unholy Grave/Birdflesh 5/22 And that's just at one venue. Fuckers. Raleigh is awful. Actually I guess I should be glad I don't live there since I'd probably spend 25% of each paycheck going to shows. On an unrelated note, the new Triptykon album is killer. So is Gojira's live album Les Enfants Sauvages.
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Negura Bunget is coming to Charlotte at least. So is Ghost. So is Behemoth/1349/Inquisition. Man, Charlotte is the new Raleigh now isn't? That's a sad thought.
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QPZIL posted:Negura Bunget is coming to Charlotte at least. So is Ghost. So is Behemoth/1349/Inquisition. It is indeed. Raleigh has some decent venues that occasionally book major metal shows (The Maywood (previously Volume 11), Lincoln Theatre (nicest venue), Kings (best sound)), but almost every tour skips us and goes from N. VA to Charlotte to Atlanta instead these days. Seemed to start happening more and more when Volume 11 closed, even though it reopened...not that I'd expect any different considering the layout now. I think the last good major metal show I went to was Vader/Vital Remains at Kings, and that was back in October. edit: perhaps I was wrong...coming up in the next two weeks at The Maywood, we've got Master on the 15th and Midnight on the 19th. That's not too bad. Optimum Gulps fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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I know I'm probably in the minority, but I think that Ghost Reveries was Opeth's best album (even over Blackwater Park). I felt like it was the perfect fusion of Mikael's death metal and prog rock tendencies and it also had the best production values of any album, especially in the drum department. I wish they would do another death metal album, but if they're not writing the songs to be in a death metal vein, then I'd rather they stick with prog rock instead of trying to write something forced. I don't think that Opeth is a spent entity or anything, but we're starting to feel the impact of losing Lopez and Lindgren. Mikael may have been the principal songwriter, but Martin and Peter definitely left their marks on the albums that they were on.
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All this Opeth talk raises a question: are there any bands who got noticeably heavier or more aggressive over the course of their careers? I guess Opeth's most purely death metal album came six albums in, but then they went in the opposite direction. Otherwise the only example I can think of is, uh...Dream Theater.
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Henchman of Santa posted:All this Opeth talk raises a question: are there any bands who got noticeably heavier or more aggressive over the course of their careers? I guess Opeth's most purely death metal album came six albums in, but then they went in the opposite direction. Otherwise the only example I can think of is, uh...Dream Theater. The only other band I can think of is Pantera.
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Does Agalloch count? They definitely got way heavier and less "mellow folky doom" after Aesop Dekker joined. Even The Mantle to Ashes Against the Grain is a pretty big jump, and they've put out a lot since then. On a much more obscure note, and with a much shorter career so far, Plebeian Grandstand might qualify, as they've started to sound less like Converge and a little bit more like Dodecahedron (I've posted the second video before, or at least a song from the same album): 2010https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLudNgrU7yk 2014https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCoQ-RM4ZZ0 Optimum Gulps fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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YOB and Celtic Frost both come to mind. Also, High on Fire's newest album is their heaviest yet, but that could just be part of getting Kurt Ballou to produce it.
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Yeah I think High On Fire are about as consistent as a band can get in terms of style. Ballou just makes things hit like a truck. And Celtic Frost changed from thrash to doom over the course of things but I consider the relative "heaviness" about equal. Of course, having Cold Lake and Vanity/Nemesis in the middle of all that makes their late career look much much heavier.
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I just looked through my entire library and the only other band I see that fits that description is Symphony X. Their last two releases are much heavier and aggressive/straightforward than anything before, and unfortunately it doesn't really suit their style and results in them not being as memorable either (much like Dream Theater's recent output).
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Optimum Gulps posted:It is indeed. Raleigh has some decent venues that occasionally book major metal shows (The Maywood (previously Volume 11), Lincoln Theatre (nicest venue), Kings (best sound)), but almost every tour skips us and goes from N. VA to Charlotte to Atlanta instead these days. Seemed to start happening more and more when Volume 11 closed, even though it reopened...not that I'd expect any different considering the layout now. I think the last good major metal show I went to was Vader/Vital Remains at Kings, and that was back in October. Not just limited to metal but there's still way too many venues around Raleigh for the size of the area, so any given show will draw like half what it would anywhere else because there's like 10 other things going on the same night, which splits the potential crowd.
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hopterque posted:Insomnium has their 3rd new song up: Amazing. I want to thank this thread for introducing me to this band that is quickly becoming one of my favorites. They remind me a bit of a cross between old school Amorphis and Sentenced, which were my favorite bands in high school. Can anyone give me some recommendations on similar music from the last decade, if they're a band from the 90s, chances are I'm already into them. I've also gotten into Wintersun and Ominum Gatherum thanks to the thread, who are also incredible.
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Optimum Gulps posted:It is indeed. Raleigh has some decent venues that occasionally book major metal shows (The Maywood (previously Volume 11), Lincoln Theatre (nicest venue), Kings (best sound)), but almost every tour skips us and goes from N. VA to Charlotte to Atlanta instead these days. Seemed to start happening more and more when Volume 11 closed, even though it reopened...not that I'd expect any different considering the layout now. I think the last good major metal show I went to was Vader/Vital Remains at Kings, and that was back in October. I didn't know Volume 11 reopened! I saw so many great shows there... an unbelievable number of great shows there honestly.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Ballou just makes things hit like a truck. Totally. Pretty much every band that signs on with Ballou gets markedly heavier. That last Skeletonwitch album ripped harder than even Permafrost imo.
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QPZIL posted:I didn't know Volume 11 reopened! I saw so many great shows there... an unbelievable number of great shows there honestly. It reopened as The Maywood sometime around a year ago, but it's no longer a great music venue. Having been there many times, you probably remember the layout. Well, it's reversed now. The huge open space that used to house the stage and standing room now has six pool tables and a few stools around the perimeter, and the stage is where the entrance used to be, at the end of the narrow section next to the bar and bathrooms. It's also barely a foot tall, so if you aren't >6'2" you can't see the band very well unless you stand on the couch against the wall.
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That just seems like a terrible business plan. Nobody wants to sip single barrel Elijah Craig while some lovely metalcore band transplanted straight from 2006 bleats 50 feet away on stage.
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sleepingbuddha posted:Amazing. I want to thank this thread for introducing me to this band that is quickly becoming one of my favorites. They remind me a bit of a cross between old school Amorphis and Sentenced, which were my favorite bands in high school. Can anyone give me some recommendations on similar music from the last decade, if they're a band from the 90s, chances are I'm already into them. I've also gotten into Wintersun and Ominum Gatherum thanks to the thread, who are also incredible. If you like Insomnium and Omnium Gatherum, there's no real possible way you won't also like Be'lakor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIJs1E6NVzQ Then there's Whispered. I've been listening to their second album Shogunate Macabre a whole drat lot lately, and it's definitely one of the better melodeath albums to come out in recent years. They have this Japan-gimmick, but it's just a superficial flavour (a cool one though) and makes me think more Kurosawa and less weeaboo anime bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WNdYVM0rRA I cannot loving get enough of that guitar hook in that song.
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sleepingbuddha posted:Amazing. I want to thank this thread for introducing me to this band that is quickly becoming one of my favorites. They remind me a bit of a cross between old school Amorphis and Sentenced, which were my favorite bands in high school. Can anyone give me some recommendations on similar music from the last decade, if they're a band from the 90s, chances are I'm already into them. I've also gotten into Wintersun and Ominum Gatherum thanks to the thread, who are also incredible. You should check out Noumena, they sound a lot like Insomnium. Barren Earth has a bunch of guys that used to be in Amorphis in it. Hanging Garden are also really good. And Eternal Tears of Sorrow too but they were around in the 90's so you might know them already.
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Father_Johann posted:Totally. Pretty much every band that signs on with Ballou gets markedly heavier. That last Skeletonwitch album ripped harder than even Permafrost imo. That Today Is The Day album he produced went in the opposite direction, but that was probably intentional.
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Henchman of Santa posted:All this Opeth talk raises a question: are there any bands who got noticeably heavier or more aggressive over the course of their careers? I guess Opeth's most purely death metal album came six albums in, but then they went in the opposite direction. Otherwise the only example I can think of is, uh...Dream Theater. Not strictly metal, but it got close: Porcupine Tree got a LOT heavier with their last two releases (Fear of a Blank Planet and The Incident), but it being PT, they still had a lot of very mellow songs scattered in there. And yeah, someone mentioned Pantera which was probably the most extreme example. Alcest was kinda doing this until suddenly Shelter happened, which was a very sharp 180. One could also make an argument for Behemoth. His current sound is definitely heavier sounding than his old black metal days. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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Henchman of Santa posted:All this Opeth talk raises a question: are there any bands who got noticeably heavier or more aggressive over the course of their careers? I guess Opeth's most purely death metal album came six albums in, but then they went in the opposite direction. Otherwise the only example I can think of is, uh...Dream Theater. Motorhead
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Blut aus Nord too, if by "heavier" you mean more hosed-up and abstract. Same with Gorguts and DsO.
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Nordick posted:If you like Insomnium and Omnium Gatherum, there's no real possible way you won't also like Be'lakor: FartGhost posted:You should check out Noumena, they sound a lot like Insomnium. Thanks, I now have a ton of new stuff to listen to. I'd never heard of any of these bands.
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A lot of Symphonic Metal bands get progressively harder as their careers go on. Epica, Nightwish, Sirenia and Amorphis all got substantially harder over their careers. Actually Dark Tranquility is a good example. They started out as pretty generic melodeath/Cradle of Filth stuff and ended up in a more black metal influenced place. There new stuff sounds more like Amon Amarth than anything. It's true that their earlier stuff was more heavy too, but it was pretty light on guitars. Circa 2002 "boring In Flames soundalike era": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU-ra1ffmTE Circa 2013 "still boring but less lovely era": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTkwuyb_PLc
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El Estrago Bonito posted:A lot of Symphonic Metal bands get progressively harder as their careers go on. Epica, Nightwish, Sirenia and Amorphis all got substantially harder over their careers. Amorphis is a really bad example because The Karelian Isthmus was a normal-ish death metal album, then they sorta softened up and made melodic prog metal starting with Elegy.
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I was gonna say, Amorphis went from death metal to cheesy prog with some Gothenburg poo poo going on.
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m-o-o-n posted:Then they switched singers and decided full-on girlfriend metal is what they love playing It doesn't help that the guy can't sing at all.
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Divinity is an awesome song. They got more stoner rock after that, then had some heavier songs with the new singer, but a lot of it is pretty forgettable. I was super excited to finally get to see them a few years ago at a small club. Samael was opening and half the crowd didn't even bother to stick around for Amorphis. It was a really good show, they primarily played stuff from Tales and Elegy. It was their first US tour, and I'd be surprised if they ever came back to the States after such a low turnout.
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