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CellBlock posted:True, I guess people in favor of gay marriage should have voted for McCain or Romney. Oh, wait...
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Guilty Spork posted:I wasn't thrilled with Obama's initial stance on gay marriage It was pretty obviously a purely political stance and not a personal belief of his, IMO. He didn't so much "change his mind" as "decide he could drop the bullshit without hurting his or his party's electoral chances." Not the most honorable thing to do, but that's a sad reality of politics.
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Obama's cynical waffling is not commendable by any means, but at no point was he actively campaigning to roll back gay rights.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:One might think that Obama has apologized for this wrongheaded stance, Eich refused to say he made a mistake or wouldn't donate to anti-gay groups again, and Americans' attitudes towards gay rights in 2008 is quite different than today (which is quite surprising, actually). One might think that, but then one would be injecting nuance and that would be wrong when we're trying to defend the rights of anti-gay bigots and get our Obama bashing for the day in If you change your mind that means you are worthless and weak and can't stand behind your strong opinion. Intelligence has nothing to do with it of course.
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He believes the same thing Wednesday that he believed on Monday, no matter what happened Tuesday. Events can change; this man's beliefs never will.
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Apr 9, 2014 18:38
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Emron posted:It's going to be "don't you want to ban knives now???" and almost certainly at least one parody image of an "assault knife." Book it.  I'm Claire Innet. Even more infuriating than the unlettered gun rights bullshit is the "pussification of America" crap. Do these assholes really think that everyone in school that day was just too weak to stand up to this kid?
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Apr 9, 2014 23:35
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JohnClark posted:It's like you're a goddamn psychic. These people don't seem to realize just how much people don't want to get stabbed. I am not going to get close enough to hit a person with a knife, cause I don't want to take a knife to the giblets. Nobody wins in a knife fight,
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Apr 9, 2014 23:39
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JohnClark posted:Even more infuriating than the unlettered gun rights bullshit is the "pussification of America" crap. Do these assholes really think that everyone in school that day was just too weak to stand up to this kid? Yep, they should go lecture the victims about how they just need to man up and not get stabbed.
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Apr 9, 2014 23:40
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In some martial arts classes to demonstrate how dangerous knives are they'll do a fake knife fight or a fake knife disarm except with markers. If you can get through it without getting any marker on you you win, and very few people can. We did gun disarms in krav maga as well and the instructor basically said "this lesson is just for fun/knowledge, if someone is pointing a gun at you just do whatever they tell you to do. you can try this as a last resort if you're 100% certain that you're going to get shot, but if it reaches that point you're probably dead already." All these tough guys with their "I would have just" bullshit don't know what they're talking about.
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prom candy posted:In some martial arts classes to demonstrate how dangerous knives are they'll do a fake knife fight or a fake knife disarm except with markers. If you can get through it without getting any marker on you you win, and very few people can. My martial arts/self defense classes were the same way. The instructors were all "If the guy has a gun pointed at you and demands your wallet, give it to him. It's not worth it. Don't even attempt the stuff we're teaching you in these situations unless you have no other choice."
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Apr 10, 2014 00:16
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Dyz posted:If you change your mind that means you are worthless and weak and can't stand behind your strong opinion. Intelligence has nothing to do with it of course. Now let me tell you why you should vote for Mitt Romney, who has shown all the opposite views to the ones he said he held in the GOP primary.
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jackpot posted:There's an argument against raising the minimum wage that says something like 95% of all people already earn over the minimum anyway, and most of that 5% is high school kids working fast food, besides. There's a counterpoint, though, that says that's horseshit because those making $7.25 an hour won't be the only ones to have their wages increased (rising tide, etc) ... I just don't have the right words to say it. Anybody got a link? Last page but everybody keeps forgetting that it's not just people who currently make minimum wage who will directly benefit from raising it, but everyone who makes less than the new minimum wage. And that's a lot more than 5%, it's closer to 1 in 4: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/07/24/573671/one-in-four-private-sector-workers-earn-less-than-10-an-hour/ Link to the study: http://nelp.3cdn.net/24befb45b36b626a7a_v2m6iirxb.pdf
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LunarShadow posted:These people don't seem to realize just how much people don't want to get stabbed. I am not going to get close enough to hit a person with a knife, cause I don't want to take a knife to the giblets. Nobody wins in a knife fight, Are you saying you're not trying to die in no ghetto?
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SedanChair posted:Are you saying you're not trying to die in no ghetto? Only if my head gets cut off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFr30p0aZl0 Mercedes Colomar fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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prom candy posted:In some martial arts classes to demonstrate how dangerous knives are they'll do a fake knife fight or a fake knife disarm except with markers. If you can get through it without getting any marker on you you win, and very few people can. The same analogy is used in one of my favorite Pen&Paper RPGs:  I don't want to say that it's a 'realistic' RPG, but it has some interesting mechanics that make combat an unpleasant experience where no one really wins.
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Perestroika posted:Out of curiosity, did this really gain much traction in the US media? All I ever heard from it was an open letter from another employee basically asking people not to judge the entire company for the CEO's decision. It seemed like the whole deal was over before it even really began. There was a miner kerfluffle as the dating site OK Cupid did a thing where if you visited their site with Firefox you were directed to a page talking about the CEO and asking you to please use a different browser to visit their site.
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muscles like this? posted:There was a miner kerfluffle as the dating site OK Cupid did a thing where if you visited their site with Firefox you were directed to a page talking about the CEO and asking you to please use a different browser to visit their site. Which is exactly the kind of free market action that makes discrimination unattractive for businesses that Republicans claim to support, but imagine that, when it's used to help a group they support discrimination against suddenly it's bad.
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prom candy posted:In some martial arts classes to demonstrate how dangerous knives are they'll do a fake knife fight or a fake knife disarm except with markers. If you can get through it without getting any marker on you you win, and very few people can. Maybe this is just me talking outta my rear end, but couldn't you just whack the guy in the forearm with a chair? You keep your own flesh an adequate distance from the blade, and you hit with enough impact to cause him to drop the knife.
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Fulchrum posted:Maybe this is just me talking outta my rear end, but couldn't you just whack the guy in the forearm with a chair? You keep your own flesh an adequate distance from the blade, and you hit with enough impact to cause him to drop the knife. Get close enough with a chair that you can hit a guy, wind up enough that it's gonna hurt, and you're exposing yourself to a significant risk of getting cut.
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Just walkin' down the street, carrying a chair as I am wont to do, when suddenly, a knife-wielding maniac appears! I thank my lucky stars that, like so many others, I carry a folding steel chair with me on most occasions.
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Swan Oat posted:Just walkin' down the street, carrying a chair as I am wont to do, when suddenly, a knife-wielding maniac appears! I thank my lucky stars that, like so many others, I carry a folding steel chair with me on most occasions. 
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Swan Oat posted:Just walkin' down the street, carrying a chair as I am wont to do, when suddenly, a knife-wielding maniac appears! I thank my lucky stars that, like so many others, I carry a folding steel chair with me on most occasions. I also carry a folding chair with me at all times, for emergency sit-downs and knife attacks.
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prom candy posted:Get close enough with a chair that you can hit a guy, wind up enough that it's gonna hurt, and you're exposing yourself to a significant risk of getting cut. Throw chairs or anything else handy like feces. He's got an advantage close up so you probably shouldn't play into that. Better thing to do is run like hell unless he's got a bunch of children cornered or something in which case you might consider taking one for the team :/
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Swan Oat posted:Just walkin' down the street, carrying a chair as I am wont to do, when suddenly, a knife-wielding maniac appears! I thank my lucky stars that, like so many others, I carry a folding steel chair with me on most occasions. Sometimes you just need to do a run-in.
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SedanChair posted:Are you saying you're not trying to die in no ghetto? gently caress, I forgot about that video....
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Well, now I get to be pissed off. For reasons that will become obvious, I take bullshit about the ACA very personally. I am "Patty Whack" in this conversation. Barry is my favorite sharer, the science teacher who doesn't believe in evolution.    Edit: Whoops, I forgot to hit the "see more" button, so it cut out "Shondra's" infuriating post: "If it weren't so sad it would be a joke. Everything about the Affordable Care Act is as bad as the name. More people have lost their insurance than gained and nearly everyone signing up for it is paying more than they were to get services they don't need or want, all the while penalizing those who refuse to pay for the immoral acts of others. All this while the democrats sing and dance an unbelievable tune, "it's working, it's working". It makes Alice's Adventures in Wonderland seem like a documentary." "immoral acts..." yeah, that's one hell of a dogwhistle. Jurgan fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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JohnClark posted:
Cracked actually had a pretty interesting article explaining that, in fact, our culture viewed bullying as a positive trend until fairly recently: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-manly-things-that-are-going-away-forever/
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Isn't a $12k deductible the maximum limit for family coverage? Which is only available as an exception for employer-sponsored plans in the small group market? Because I think the chances of him actually knowing someone forced into such a ridiculous situation is minuscule and he is parroting something he heard. Not that calling him a liar is the way to proceed, but if he was genuinely concerned about his girlfriend's health care costs he should be looking at the better plans available instead of complaining that she went for the one with the cheapest premium and *surprise* the deductible is high. Does she buy cars from a dealership at sticker price, too?
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Swan Oat posted:Just walkin' down the street, carrying a chair as I am wont to do, when suddenly, a knife-wielding maniac appears! I thank my lucky stars that, like so many others, I carry a folding steel chair with me on most occasions. I was talking about in the loving school. You're gonna tell me you don't think they have chairs there?
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Fulchrum posted:I was talking about in the loving school. You're gonna tell me you don't think they have chairs there? Look, we all believe that you are a tough man and you would take out the knife-wielding maniac with a chair before he is able to hurt anyone weaker than you.
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Fulchrum posted:I was talking about in the loving school. You're gonna tell me you don't think they have chairs there? Do go on about how you would manfully defeat the knife-wielding maniac :bigtran:
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I mean look, Clint Eastwood knows he could have to defend himself from knife wielding thugs at any time: He even gives his chair a name and talks to it and stuff, which seems a bit odd to me but hey, self-defense is self-defense.  Anyway knives are dangerous and taking on a weapon with another weapon still puts you at risk. There we can move on now. Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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Fulchrum posted:I was talking about in the loving school. You're gonna tell me you don't think they have chairs there? Yeah, but speculating about this is almost as dumb as the people who fantasize about using their gun to take down a bad guy.
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Funny thing about a knife fight, it actually happens way faster than typing out a post and you can't go back and edit your fight once it's happened. So, could you do a super wrist lock and put on sunglasses and kiss the girl? Sure. But did you?
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  In crazy political emails world, I'm surprised I haven't seen anything about Minnesota's upcoming min wage increase and indexing it to inflation. Usually it brings the pseudo-econ101 types out of the woodwork whenever the subject comes up.
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SedanChair posted:Funny thing about a knife fight, it actually happens way faster than typing out a post and you can't go back and edit your fight once it's happened. So, could you do a super wrist lock and put on sunglasses and kiss the girl? Sure. But did you? Paramedics have a saying about knife fights: The loser of a knife fight dies at the scene. The winner dies six hours later at the hospital.
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Knight posted:Isn't a $12k deductible the maximum limit for family coverage? Which is only available as an exception for employer-sponsored plans in the small group market? Because I think the chances of him actually knowing someone forced into such a ridiculous situation is minuscule and he is parroting something he heard. Yeah the average deductible for a bronze level individual plan is about $5,000. Family plans tend to go more toward $10,000 because--surprise, surprise--it costs more to cover 2+ people then it does to cover 1. I'm assuming this guy's girlfriend has a kid or else was reading the plans incorrectly. I haven't heard of anyone who was out and out unable to afford a decent plan from the Obamacare website when accounting for subsidies unless they were being deliberately obtuse and only looking at the most expensive plans. Almost everything I've heard about high deductibles, excessive premiums, or other problems have been from people who have insurance through an employer but claim to know someone who had this problem.
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BatteredFeltFedora posted:Last page but everybody keeps forgetting that it's not just people who currently make minimum wage who will directly benefit from raising it, but everyone who makes less than the new minimum wage. And that's a lot more than 5%, it's closer to 1 in 4: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/07/24/573671/one-in-four-private-sector-workers-earn-less-than-10-an-hour/ They aren't forgetting, they are intentionally ignoring it to make their case look bigger in order to save large corporations money, we had several people do this in the minimum wage thread ignoring the evidence each time. It is depressing that our culture has gotten to the point where people actively defend a companies right to make billions more profits on the backs of the starving poor that only survive based on welfare/benefits paid by tax dollars that most corporations do everything in their power not to pay, I understand why the rich would support this but the fact that way too many poor/middle class people support it as well is sickening.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:The same analogy is used in one of my favorite Pen&Paper RPGs: What game is this from? I might steal this for all my games.
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Fulchrum posted:I was talking about in the loving school. You're gonna tell me you don't think they have chairs there? Actually I thought integrated desk-chair combo sets that weigh like 30 pounds were the standard nowadays. Which is even funnier to imagine some nerd lifting over his head in a blaze of futile glory.
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