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Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Geokinesis posted:

Ah yeah it is for the UK.

What stuff does it have missing?

Looks like its missing the Playstation exclusive missions. It has all the Pre-order bonuses, but not that.

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Ratzinc
Aug 14, 2004

MY BALLS ARE THE SIZE OF GRAPEFRUITS

Croccers posted:

Gamers Gate base price is $80 while GMG is only $60. This is before discounts. GMG currently have a 20% off discount going. Does Gamefly even work in Australia?

I'm from the US so I was speaking from my experiences, sorry!

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

Athenry posted:

Looks like its missing the Playstation exclusive missions. It has all the Pre-order bonuses, but not that.

If you scroll down on that page it has this banner about playstation exclusive content included:



So it should be contain all the DLC (bar shop exclusive outfit packs).

FairyNuff fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Apr 8, 2014

Ratzinc
Aug 14, 2004

MY BALLS ARE THE SIZE OF GRAPEFRUITS
This may have been answered earlier in the thread, but does any of the announced multiplayer features sound like they will be worth a drat? I'm trying to decide between the PC and the PS4 version, but the cheaper price of the digital deluxe version for the PC sounds like the way to go, even though I'm worried ubisoft will bone up the performance (I have a 3770k and a 7950; it should outperform the ps4 version...right!?)

TheSpiritFox
Jan 4, 2009

I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

Ratzinc posted:

This may have been answered earlier in the thread, but does any of the announced multiplayer features sound like they will be worth a drat? I'm trying to decide between the PC and the PS4 version, but the cheaper price of the digital deluxe version for the PC sounds like the way to go, even though I'm worried ubisoft will bone up the performance (I have a 3770k and a 7950; it should outperform the ps4 version...right!?)

They basically ripped off Dark Souls. You can choose to not participate or you can have people randomly invade your game and hack you to steak some game related stuff that's useful (money, xp, who knows) and you have to find them and counter hack them or kill them. It's implied that there will be penalties for just running up and killing people and less benefits for the person invaded if they just kill the invader vs hacking them back.

There's also apparently going to be a mobile app where you can hack into someone's game and help them or hurt them. Hack street blockers to hinder the player or to catch police, stuff like that.

The invasion multiplayer actually looks pretty sweet. They can't invade during missions, only during free roam. So dudes won't mess with your story progression, but if you're running around righting wrongs vigilante style I think you can have someone jump in.

And when someone invades, each player sees themselves as Aiden Pierce and the other person as some randomly generated person. The way it got shown, you don't get a "you've been invaded" message like in Dark Souls. At any point in time, some random NPC walking in the crowd could actually be someone looking for a good vantage point to hack you or who walks up and blasts you in the face. I'm kinda excited for the paranoia factor.

On the performance, after FC3 I think UBI knows how to make things scale. I have the 7870 recommended in the part picking thread and a fairly old mb/ i5 1156 socket processor with only 4 gigs of ram and I was able to scale FC3 down to "Gorgeous with less post processing" and play it at a steady 45-60 fps. I'm upgrading for this, but if this scales anywhere near as well the recommended will go full settings and it'll still be pretty as hell a notch or two down and you can bump your frame rate back up near 60. I have zero basis for these assumptions, but it seems like a pretty safe bet.

TheSpiritFox fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Apr 8, 2014

grrarg
Feb 14, 2011

Don't lose your head over it.

Ratzinc posted:

This may have been answered earlier in the thread, but does any of the announced multiplayer features sound like they will be worth a drat? I'm trying to decide between the PC and the PS4 version, but the cheaper price of the digital deluxe version for the PC sounds like the way to go, even though I'm worried ubisoft will bone up the performance (I have a 3770k and a 7950; it should outperform the ps4 version...right!?)
You should not have to worry about PC performance with that beefy of a system.

The PC version should scale pretty well anyway. PC was the lead platform for development since Ubi started work on the game before the PS4 and xbone specs were finalized.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Watch_Dogs™ running on a PC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKOyqOJMmQ

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Now you too can be Aiden Pearce!

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club




I dont see why the PS4 can't do graphics like this.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
I mean, it looks loving fantastic, but you just know their demo footage is running, like, two GTX780s in parallel.

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?

Vintersorg posted:

I dont see why the PS4 can't do graphics like this.

I don't see why it matters. I'm really waiting for the day when people stop caring about whether their fake in-game self renders in 4k, and instead demand that studios focus on making the game itself better. AI characters with more than 4 behaviors or a greater range of things to do in open world games spring to mind.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

JohnSherman posted:

I don't see why it matters. I'm really waiting for the day when people stop caring about whether their fake in-game self renders in 4k, and instead demand that studios focus on making the game itself better. AI characters with more than 4 behaviors or a greater range of things to do in open world games spring to mind.

Yeah, this was my thing. We finally have more RAM in our consoles, I want that to translate to more cool stuff going on, not more godrays and ambient bitmap occlusion or whatever. I'm ready to see the games that PLAY like next-gen, not just super pretty versions of what we've already been playing.

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

Crappy Jack posted:

Yeah, this was my thing. We finally have more RAM in our consoles, I want that to translate to more cool stuff going on, not more godrays and ambient bitmap occlusion or whatever.

One day we will hit photorealism. On that day, finally, gameplay will improve.

Naky
May 30, 2001

Resident Crackhead

Cantorsdust posted:

One day we will hit photorealism. On that day, finally, gameplay will improve.

gently caress no. There'll be a never ending stream of graphic spergs that will go on and on about not being able to render the game with full 180FPS smoothness on their 45920x28378 resolution screens and how awful the game looks in motion because of it. Graphics is a battle you'll never win because that's a hardcore sect of people that can never be pleased, yet every developer spends endless resources on trying to please them due to how vocal they are about it. Gameplay will improve when everyone's mindset changes and people encourage developers to spend more time improving it rather than sating their MAXIMUM GRAPHICS desires.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Why can't we have both?

And holy poo poo this got derailed from thinking Watch Dogs can look really good to sperging out about gameplay.

RARGH GRAPHICS SUCK IDIOTS

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?

Vintersorg posted:

Why can't we have both?

File sizes, computational limitations, constraints on development time, a general feeling among developers that audiences don't give a poo poo. Take your pick.

calusari
Apr 18, 2013

It's mechanical. Seems to come at regular intervals.

Croccers posted:

Best place to pre-order on PC for Aus?
I can get it down to $48USD at GreenManGaming using a 20% code.

It's $25 USD on origin.com india (you have to use a proxy such as https://hola.org/)
Just add it to your cart, checkout and then turn off the proxy once it asks you to login and then proceed normally

ubisoft doesn't region lock

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

Cantorsdust posted:

One day we will hit photorealism. On that day, finally, gameplay will improve.

Or the games industry will crash hard because of the unsustainable costs of creating photorealistic assets along with hugely elaborate and expensive physics engines to maintain the illusion of realism at all times.

In all seriousness, though, the sperging about graphics is really prominent right now especially just because we're transitioning to the next console generation, which is a long overdue transition to begin with. I'd say it's also Ubisoft's fault for making the original demo look better than the full game with all that vertical slice nonsense, but honestly, a lot of the spergs moaning about it should know better than to trust a big-name developer and publisher to show them honest gameplay footage. It's always, always going to be doctored in some way, it's a shame that that's the norm, but that's just how it is and how it's always been, even with the best and most honest of developers.

Honestly, though, when the game releases it will probably look pretty good and communicate its modern dystopian cyberpunk-y visual themes just fine and nobody will care that there's a few less props blowing around in the wind or w/e.

Funkstar Deluxe
May 7, 2007

「☆☆☆」

i can't wait to see the pics of fat neckbeards trying to wear https://www.musterbrand.com/collections/watch-dogs/the-vigilante-189 hitting the internet

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I STILL don't give a gently caress about this game's graphics. I do give a gently caress about its gameplay. Will it be good? Here's hoping.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Am I the only one that loved the Chicago trailer but was super put off by the story one?

The story one just made it seem like generic thriller nonsense with somehow super combat-oriented generic hacker guy doing a thing because oh man some conspiracy dudes killed my kid, or something.

I still love the idea of incursions and loving around with the city, but the story seems even worse than all the modern day AC stuff.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


SaviourX posted:

Am I the only one that loved the Chicago trailer but was super put off by the story one?

The story one just made it seem like generic thriller nonsense with somehow super combat-oriented generic hacker guy doing a thing because oh man some conspiracy dudes killed my kid, or something.

I still love the idea of incursions and loving around with the city, but the story seems even worse than all the modern day AC stuff.

I'm going to blow your mind: The story of this game will most likely not be very good.

TheSpiritFox
Jan 4, 2009

I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

Speedball posted:

I STILL don't give a gently caress about this game's graphics. I do give a gently caress about its gameplay. Will it be good? Here's hoping.

During the delay they talked about how it got repetitive and said that instead of just "guard investigates hacked thing and forgets about it" they threw in some almost Batman: Arkham style reactions to things you do. Instead of freaking out and shooting at shadows, apparently guards will get angry at and try to destroy hacked machinery and then get suspicious and look for you.

I really hope they gave all the AI that kind of makeover.

SaviourX posted:

Am I the only one that loved the Chicago trailer but was super put off by the story one?

The story one just made it seem like generic thriller nonsense with somehow super combat-oriented generic hacker guy doing a thing because oh man some conspiracy dudes killed my kid, or something.

I still love the idea of incursions and loving around with the city, but the story seems even worse than all the modern day AC stuff.

It can't possibly be worse than White Male Sex/Power Fantasy Featuring The Noble Savage: The Game. Not even Assassin's Creed can touch a game ending where you get murdered by the woman you're having sex with while she pretends you're her brother.

:edit:

That description applies to all of Assassin's Creed too, doesn't it? :ughh:

TheSpiritFox fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Apr 11, 2014

Dvlos
Aug 26, 2003

"I came here to argue with you about a freaking television show!"
That was a nice video of Watch Dogs running on nvidia quad sli. My one R9 290x card will probably poo poo itself.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Dvlos posted:

That was a nice video of Watch Dogs running on nvidia quad sli. My one R9 290x card will probably poo poo itself.

I can't imagine they'd ship an AAA game that doesn't run on a high-end card released after their original release date.

Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Apr 11, 2014

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Vintersorg posted:

I dont see why the PS4 can't do graphics like this.
It can. Odds are the only real difference between the PS4 and PC graphics is going to be the extra AA and AO techniques they talked about in the video.

Vulcan
Mar 24, 2005
Motobike
Is this the kind of Co-op where I can play through the singleplayer story-line with a friend, or is this another co-op that's more like a tacked on mission mode thing?

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

Moartoast posted:

Or the games industry will crash hard because of the unsustainable costs of creating photorealistic assets along with hugely elaborate and expensive physics engines to maintain the illusion of realism at all times.

In all seriousness, though, the sperging about graphics is really prominent right now especially just because we're transitioning to the next console generation, which is a long overdue transition to begin with. I'd say it's also Ubisoft's fault for making the original demo look better than the full game with all that vertical slice nonsense, but honestly, a lot of the spergs moaning about it should know better than to trust a big-name developer and publisher to show them honest gameplay footage. It's always, always going to be doctored in some way, it's a shame that that's the norm, but that's just how it is and how it's always been, even with the best and most honest of developers.

Honestly, though, when the game releases it will probably look pretty good and communicate its modern dystopian cyberpunk-y visual themes just fine and nobody will care that there's a few less props blowing around in the wind or w/e.

The only gameplay demonstrations I've seen that turned out to be remotely accurate were the 15-minute ones shown for MGS4 and Ground Zeroes.

Although after MGS2, I've always been expecting some kind of twist.

Anyway, even if Watch Dogs doesn't live up to the reveal trailer, I'm sure it will be possible later in the generation, going by how much open-world games improved during the last console cycle. Not having to target old systems as well would help.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

Vulcan posted:

Is this the kind of Co-op where I can play through the singleplayer story-line with a friend, or is this another co-op that's more like a tacked on mission mode thing?

From what I understand, co-op is basically one person playing the game while another person does all the hacking on their tablet.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

That loving Sned posted:

The only gameplay demonstrations I've seen that turned out to be remotely accurate were the 15-minute ones shown for MGS4 and Ground Zeroes.

Although after MGS2, I've always been expecting some kind of twist.

I'm still hoping after the nine year gap cutscene seen in the trailers it just cuts to like the far future and you only play as Raiden again.

Crappy Jack posted:

From what I understand, co-op is basically one person playing the game while another person does all the hacking on their tablet.

I don't know if it's still in there but they also showed off a cool adversarial mode wherein once you've invaded someone's game once you can later clandestinely remote play with your tablet to hack their alarms/cameras/whatever without actually being in or playing the game. It was awesome but definitely the kind of thing that seems too good to be in the final game.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Apr 11, 2014

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



Sindai posted:

It can. Odds are the only real difference between the PS4 and PC graphics is going to be the extra AA and AO techniques they talked about in the video.

So...it cant.

Incredulous Dylan
Oct 22, 2004

Fun Shoe
Honestly, I don't know that the footage there looks much better than Sleeping Dogs maxed out. I like the lighting system more in certain frames but maybe Sleeping Dogs just has a more interesting location to show off? I run that super smooth on a single 780 ti, so I don't think you'll have to have SLI just to use TXAA with Watch Dogs.

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005

Incredulous Dylan posted:

Honestly, I don't know that the footage there looks much better than Sleeping Dogs maxed out. I like the lighting system more in certain frames but maybe Sleeping Dogs just has a more interesting location to show off? I run that super smooth on a single 780 ti, so I don't think you'll have to have SLI just to use TXAA with Watch Dogs.

I dunno, I was able to run crysis 3 nearly maxed out settings on my 770, but txaa absolutely killed performance, like downed my fps from 40ish down to 15-20. At least I think that was the AA option. It looked really nice though!

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
I love that in a video designed to show off how great the graphics are, the "raindrop-hitting-ground" effect still only occurs within 15m or so of the camera :laugh:

Greenplastic
Oct 24, 2005

Miao, miao!

Stealth Scarf

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

friends watch porn posted:

i can't wait to see the pics of fat neckbeards trying to wear https://www.musterbrand.com/collections/watch-dogs/the-vigilante-189 hitting the internet

I can't wait until a non-story hits about someone getting arrested trying to look like that in public. Nerds actually having the sort of body size to wear this is one thing, expecting anyone in the real world to not get suspicious of you wearing several jackets, half a face mask and a baseball cap as you walk into a Gamestop is another thing entirely.:allears:

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Crabtree posted:

I can't wait until a non-story hits about someone getting arrested trying to look like that in public. Nerds actually having the sort of body size to wear this is one thing, expecting anyone in the real world to not get suspicious of you wearing several jackets, half a face mask and a baseball cap as you walk into a Gamestop is another thing entirely.:allears:

Let's be honest though, the sort of person who buys video game inspired clothing probably doesn't go out in public anyway :v:

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

webmeister posted:

I love that in a video designed to show off how great the graphics are, the "raindrop-hitting-ground" effect still only occurs within 15m or so of the camera :laugh:

I imagine the problem is that processing power would increase by the square of the radius, area and all that.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

TheSpiritFox posted:

It can't possibly be worse than White Male Sex/Power Fantasy Featuring The Noble Savage: The Game. Not even Assassin's Creed can touch a game ending where you get murdered by the woman you're having sex with while she pretends you're her brother.

:edit:

That description applies to all of Assassin's Creed too, doesn't it? :ughh:


Took me a second to think of that one, but yeah, that loving game (haven't finished it either). Being a mixed pacific dude myself, I rolleyes every time I play a story mission. A friend and I say something about 'Jay-son, your ta-tau' once every few weeks.


To be fair, the AC3 stuff was pretty safe, just boring, and wasted a lot of time trying to do a thing instead of doing it.

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am0kgonzo
Jun 18, 2010

TheSpiritFox posted:

During the delay they talked about how it got repetitive and said that instead of just "guard investigates hacked thing and forgets about it" they threw in some almost Batman: Arkham style reactions to things you do. Instead of freaking out and shooting at shadows, apparently guards will get angry at and try to destroy hacked machinery and then get suspicious and look for you.

I really hope they gave all the AI that kind of makeover.


It can't possibly be worse than White Male Sex/Power Fantasy Featuring The Noble Savage: The Game. Not even Assassin's Creed can touch a game ending where you get murdered by the woman you're having sex with while she pretends you're her brother.

:edit:

That description applies to all of Assassin's Creed too, doesn't it? :ughh:

Far Cry 3 was fun and at least not as bland and forgettable as Ubisofts usual fare. But I forgot, oh no "white" and "male".

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