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PittTheElder posted:Based on the comments in the post, the limits are the most extreme states (and D.C.) rather than absolutes. Ah, I scanned the comments but missed that. In that case, without the numbers marked on the scales, the maps are rather meaningless. Still, it's horrifying that some of those choices got even 1 answer.
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Jerry Cotton posted:gently caress yes let those dirty Ostrobothnians and Laplanders murder each other. It's not murder, it's traditional pastime. 
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Apr 11, 2014 19:11
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Antwan3K posted:It is the Belgian province of Liege. Large unemployment due to closures of manufacturing industries (esp. steel industry) may have something to do with it. Also weird is Walloon Brabant, which is the poshest part of the region and filled with rich commuters to Brussels (It's the province with the second-highest average income in the country, after its Flemish counterpart), and yet is as blue as Liège. I suspect economy isn't the only factor here.
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Valiantman posted:It's not murder, it's traditional pastime. It's not considered murder if you kill your family and then yourself. That's death from natural causes.
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Lawman 0 posted:Wait do you mean Fn? Yeah, They're based in Herstal, which is in Liege province.
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Count Roland posted:This one seems like a reading comprehension thing. Homosexuality is in fact a sin; god threw a comet at a city that had gays in it. Look at dis chump who doesn't understand basic Old Testament exegesis and the context of ancient near eastern social compacts.
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skipThings posted:Oh Brandenburg Algarve is the third least poor region of Portugal, second being Madeira, and first Lisbon. The correct answer is tourists. But the Algarve has been for quite some time the most crime filled region in Portugal(which doesn't really mean much considering everything). The major crimes in the Algarve has always been theft and kidnapping, so homicide rate being that high is kinda surprising. I was trying to find the numbers, but I just find rates for "grave and violent crimes" which is shorthand for Portuguese officials blending murders, brutal theft, kidnapping all in the same bag.
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Is there a reason why Russia's murder rate is so high? Mafia?
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escape mechanism posted:Also weird is Walloon Brabant, which is the poshest part of the region and filled with rich commuters to Brussels (It's the province with the second-highest average income in the country, after its Flemish counterpart), and yet is as blue as Liège. I suspect economy isn't the only factor here. It surprises me as well, this is the first I've heard of Wallonia having a particularly high murder rate. I'd kind of like to see a map of the United States with the same legend. I also can't believe how terrible Russia is in every single way.
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Kurtofan posted:Is there a reason why Russia's murder rate is so high? Mafia? Misery.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Misery. Well that's a given 
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Kurtofan posted:Is there a reason why Russia's murder rate is so high? Mafia? Lots of vodka.
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Kurtofan posted:Is there a reason why Russia's murder rate is so high? Mafia? Lots of killing.
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Kurtofan posted:Is there a reason why Russia's murder rate is so high? Mafia? It's probably mostly poverty. Murder rates are pretty strongly correlated with poverty and Russia is a poor country on the whole, especially compared to Western Europe.
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Phlegmish posted:It surprises me as well, this is the first I've heard of Wallonia having a particularly high murder rate. I'd kind of like to see a map of the United States with the same legend. 
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Apr 11, 2014 21:22
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Is 30 Days of Darkness a regular reality on those northern Canadian islands or what?
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Thump! posted:Is 30 Days of Darkness a regular reality on those northern Canadian islands or what? Bunch 'a reasons. Poverty, high alcoholism rates, and don't forget low population. You can see a similar effect in eastern Russia, which also has very low population, thus raising the per capita murder rate.
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The one thing that surprises me about Russia is that Chechnya has one of the lowest homicide rates in the country. I'm assuming any deaths involving the military aren't being counted?
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HorseRenoir posted:The one thing that surprises me about Russia is that Chechnya has one of the lowest homicide rates in the country. I'm assuming any deaths involving the military aren't being counted? That is a bit strange. Dagestan is also very violent, though maybe it doesn't get counted because so many disappear rather than being overtly murdered. I wouldn't be inclined to trust stats from that area.
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Redeye Flight posted:Bunch 'a reasons. Poverty, high alcoholism rates, and don't forget low population. You can see a similar effect in eastern Russia, which also has very low population, thus raising the per capita murder rate.
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Redeye Flight posted:and don't forget low population. You can see a similar effect in eastern Russia, which also has very low population, thus raising the per capita murder rate.
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One thing that interests me about that map is that you can clearly see the western borders of the former Soviet Union. I'd expect it to jump between Poland and Ukraine/Belarus; but you can clearly see that it is higher in the Baltic States as well, which is interesting. I'd have expected crime rates to be similar between Poland and Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania...
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Wait, so most of India has a lower homocide rate than Louisiana? And you're more likely to get murdered in Nunavut than in Moscow? Bouillon Rube fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Apr 11, 2014 |
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Well, guns are illegal in India whereas they are prevalent in Louisiana. The addition of guns will turn some number of assaults into homicides. This is almost certainly police-reported crime statistics so the stats for less developed countries may be lower or skewed due to ineffective policing. That's probably also why like Myanmar is showing at a Western European level of homicide when there is a pretty active ethnic cleansing campaign/civil war going on there. That said, in general, homicide rate tends to be by far the most accurate crime statistic year-to-year and jurisdiction-to-jurisdiction.
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I don't think so, they're using national subdivisions.
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Flagrant Abuse posted:Is that basically the same reason as NT in Aus, too? Yep, entire territory only has 220,000 people, of which over half are in the Darwin area and another 20,000 or so in Alice Springs. But it's obviously really big. The other thing is it unfortunately is a massive symbol of how poorly we have treated our indigenous population, with so many of them in the NT having huge issues with alcohol, and reports of domestic violence/murder/assault/etc. A lot of it is hyped up by racists of course, but it's a very real problem that Australia simply doesn't give a poo poo about  Really sad. I think if you took a lot of stats about the NT you'd see some shocking stuff. I think I read a report once that Indigenous Australians had a life expectancy comparable to that of like, West Africa's, whereas obviously the rest of Australia is almost the highest in the world. Grim stuff.
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Redeye Flight posted:Bunch 'a reasons. Poverty, high alcoholism rates, and don't forget low population. You can see a similar effect in eastern Russia, which also has very low population, thus raising the per capita murder rate. That doesn't make sense. 'Rate' means that they're already taking population into account. Or what Buttery Pastry said, basically.
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Phlegmish posted:That doesn't make sense. 'Rate' means that they're already taking population into account. Or what Buttery Pastry said, basically. As a result, all of the Territories - which combined have around 110,000 people - show a lot of pretty major swings in homicide rate. Using official StatsCan data, the three territories have low and high rates (actual number of homicides in parentheses) between 2008-12 as follows: Yukon: 0.00 (0) / 9.06 (3) NWT: 2.28 (1) / 11.53 (5) Nunavut: 12.65 (4) / 20.86 (7) The territories certainly tend to have much more violence than the provinces, but a snapshot of the homicide rate in a single year isn't the most useful measure with sparsely populated regions.
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Augmented Dickey posted:Wait, so most of India has a lower homocide rate than Louisiana? If you're in podunk Louisiana, no. If you're in New Orleans, yes. Most U.S. States are too big and diverse to get a real sense of where the bad crime spots are. If it were broken down by the county level, you'd see plenty of blood red areas
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 http://ispol.com/sasha/squares/ posted:This map has the Robinson projection divided into 18,620 squares, showing which ones produce more than US$100 billion in GDP, according to Brookings in 2012.
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Europe is winning all of these maps lately.
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Phlegmish posted:Europe is winning all of these maps lately. You could really just rename the map 'Where do people in the first world live?' It pretty much just matches up to population centers and as the linked text notes the squares really aren't proportional to each other.
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It's weird that all of Japan is included, I always thought Hokkaido was pretty sparsely populated.
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Kind of surprised the Shandong Peninsula is highlighted but I guess it is one of the wealthier provinces in China.
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Lima is highlighted? Peru is richer than I thought.
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Freudian posted:Lima is highlighted? Peru is richer than I thought. Yeah, I was surprised by that. The author of that map also noted that Santiago, Chile was even richer and produced $150 billion, but it was split almost exactly in half by the grid and as a result didn't show up. Wonder what other areas might have gotten that treatment.
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With Nigeria's economic stats having just been revised, I wonder if Lagos would show on that map.
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Augmented Dickey posted:Wait, so most of India has a lower homocide rate than Louisiana? The Yellow King strikes again....
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 I rectified a 1707 map of the Isle of Man using the New York Public Library program provided earlier, it was interesting. Some of my observations: 1) The map maker totally whiffed the Calf of Man. It got to the point where I had about 1/4 of my control points trying to define it and it still wouldn't line up. 2) Despite it being a relatively modern English map of a UK dependency that's literally closer than Ireland, they butchered the spelling. For instance Sauwble is Snaefel, the highest mountain on Man. 3) A lot of towns called St. X are now just called X. Not sure why on this, maybe someone who knows more about the area can say more. The map warper is really cool overall.
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