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SnakePlissken
Dec 31, 2009

by zen death robot

The_Rob posted:

I love that Greg gutfield is so not cool and so not funny he had to make a book to tell every one that he is actually cool and they are the uncool ones. Thus making him probably the lamest guy in history.

I get the impression Greg Gutfield aspires to be the guy that Republican frat boys watch while they do bong hits at 3 am.

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beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

The_Rob posted:

I love that Greg gutfield is so not cool and so not funny he had to make a book to tell every one that he is actually cool and they are the uncool ones. Thus making him probably the lamest guy in history.

He's just pissed that bullies aren't the "cool" kids in schools anymore. Instead it's the "nice", "tolerant" ones who grow up to be liberals forcing everyone else to be "empathetic".

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

AdjectiveNoun posted:

My point is that public shaming by itself is ineffective, if not counterproductive, even if it's easy and feels cathartic. It isn't going to cause positive change on its own. It's just a distraction from the real things that cause inexorable, effective social pressure - namely education and acts to show the merit of a cause.

FYI the purpose of public shaming is not to change the minds of virulent racists but to remove their influence from the overall social conversation so they stop swaying impressionable people who would otherwise be decent but may tolerate or even accept racist attitudes or policies because they are socially acceptable. You know the people, the ones who "don't want to rock the boat" and so they let aggressive idiots overpower their sense and lead the way. The point is to shut the aggressive idiots up, not to make them stop being racist because that's impossible.

SnakePlissken posted:

I get the impression Greg Gutfield aspires to be the guy that Republican frat boys watch while they do bong hits at 3 am.

He tries to be the person he wishes he had back when he was that frat bro College Republican. Be the change you want to see or whatever.

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012

kik2dagroin posted:

Well, no, not exactly. What Bush did is all that matters. But what the Reverend Sharpton did? No, no. That's of no concern.
It always cracks me up when Limbaugh acts like black people have their own president.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
Greg Gutfeld is Marge Simpson trying to figure out what it means to be cool (not caring, right?) but IRL.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:


My only question on BEHGNAZHZI!11 is what where FOX always referring to about X person WHO WAS THERE!!!11 wanted to speak out/testify but Obama Admin wouldn't let them?

You mean Dylan Davies?

He lied his loving rear end off and got caught

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

The_Rob posted:

I love that Greg gutfield is so not cool and so not funny he had to make a book to tell every one that he is actually cool and they are the uncool ones. Thus making him probably the lamest guy in history.

oh God, that interview is so cringeworthy. I feel like tis guy Greg has been through some traumatic poo poo in his life now. I just feel sorry for him, and not in the way that people play up their pathos for humour.

Also, Obama is not cool! He's just relatable, he has a great PR team and possibly a vestigial sense of humour! He doesn't seem like a complete dickhead who would want to control my uterus! I thought Fox was always on Obama's dick for being on the golf course constantly and "out of touch" with the average Joe.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

The_Rob posted:

I love that Greg gutfield is so not cool and so not funny he had to make a book to tell every one that he is actually cool and they are the uncool ones. Thus making him probably the lamest guy in history.

But can he be as lame as the people who spend time creating Greg Gutfield quote memes?


"Blue Steel"

And are those people as lame as the people who, in turn, steal credit for those memes by clumsily pasting their own website logo over the original?

And are those people as lame as people who spend time searching for those memes to post on a forum? no, nobody can be lamer than that :smith:

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



HootTheOwl posted:

Stumbled across this gem today.

:ironicat: begins from the very first sentence.
:cry: Making fun of conservatives is worse than black-face you guys!
I can't believe someone actually spent time writing that.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Yeah, that may be it.

I checked the wiki time line yesterday and the only other thing I knew FOX was rallying around was the protest over a video statement, but even then there was testimony from actual Libyans saying anything from yes, the attack escalated from the protest/the protest happened and Islamists took the opportunity/the Islamists instigated the protest on the pretext of the video to begin with so they could attack under cover. It also looks like there WAS a protest over the video going on in Egypt at the time.

So basically it was FOX yelling YOU LIE and hoping Obama would just admit to doing so.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



It's also another bad case of the same racist crap behind Troofers: It was successful so it's a sophisticated American inside-job conspiracy. Those dirty cavemen who invented math could never outsmart Americans because :biotruths:!

Wasn't initial Benghazi confusion because the CIA wasn't giving the WH the whole story? It seems absurd to be mad at Hillary for relating the bad info she was given, but I didn't come into the issue with a hate-on for the Clintons.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Here's Gufeld's synopsis of his book Not Cool found on his own website:

quote:

From politics to the personal, from fashion to food, from the campus to the locker room, the desire to be cool has infected every aspect of our lives. At its most harmless, it’s annoying. At its worst, it is deadly, on a massive scale. The cool are the termites of life, infiltrating every nook and cranny, and destroying it from within. The cool report the news, write the scripts, teach our children, run our government – and each day they pass judgment on those who don’t worship their coolness. The cool fawn over terrorists, mock the military, and denigrate employers. They are, in short, awful people.

In Not Cool, Greg Gutfeld, host of The Five and Redeye, and bestselling author of Joy Of Hate, lays out the battle plan for reclaiming the real American ideal of cool (building businesses, protecting freedom at home and abroad, taking responsibility for your actions, and leaving other people alone to live as they drat well please). Not Cool fights back against the culture of phonies, elitists and creeps, who want your soul. It’s not a book, it’s a weapon you should be armed with, at all times.

Being cool is a weapon of mass destruction and the cool people are apparently everyone in society except the sycophants that buy his book. And, its not a guide or tool, its a loving weapon. Why a weapon?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

radical meme posted:

Being cool is a weapon of mass destruction and the cool people are apparently everyone in society except the sycophants that buy his book. And, its not a guide or tool, its a loving weapon. Why a weapon?

In opinion or polemic writing, mentally replace instances of "gun," "sword," "knife," "weapon," and any other object depicting violence or potency with a penis. The book is a penis for the uncool, your penis having been stolen or diminished by those darn cools.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



moths posted:

It's also another bad case of the same racist crap behind Troofers: It was successful so it's a sophisticated American inside-job conspiracy. Those dirty cavemen who invented math could never outsmart Americans because :biotruths:!

Wasn't initial Benghazi confusion because the CIA wasn't giving the WH the whole story? It seems absurd to be mad at Hillary for relating the bad info she was given, but I didn't come into the issue with a hate-on for the Clintons.
There was some initial confusion from the intel people about what happened. Susan Rice got furiously attacked for just reading what they gave her after what happened. Clinton somewhat also, but I've never seen the kind of backlash Rice got before for just reading a statement.

turnip kid
May 24, 2010

radical meme posted:

Here's Gufeld's synopsis of his book Not Cool found on his own website:


Being cool is a weapon of mass destruction and the cool people are apparently everyone in society except the sycophants that buy his book. And, its not a guide or tool, its a loving weapon. Why a weapon?

Alternately:

http://thewilderness.me/youth-revolt/

quote:

There is a cultural sea change happening and it’s not just happening online or on message boards. Rebellion against Barack Obama is becoming cool and it’s not because of any idea put forward by conservatives or GOP policy. The question that remains is if older generations of conservatives are willing to cede the social narrative of a younger generation burned out on Hope posters and intolerant of their phones being monitored and being taxed for not buying a health insurance plan they didn’t sign up for.

The answer is they might not have a choice.

Without delving too deeply into a distant 2016 Presidential race, the GOP’s bench of possibles is stacked with youth. The Democrat lineup is old, worn and could possibly be relying on a 70 year old woman who actor Matt Damon once hypothesized would have a one in three chance of not even surviving her first term. It should go without saying that the youth vote is essential in 2016. More essential than in 2008 even because young voters won’t be looking for another person who can simply string together buzzwords and platitudes through a teleprompter and reverb. In 2004, the Democrat party was left for dead and looking for a message. A war weary country hounded daily by a progressive media complex was sold a phony message of hope. This phony message won’t sell again.

Swings like this don’t happen from arguing ideologues on both sides in social media. It’s the completely natural shift in culturnomics. The natural instinct to gravitate toward the alternative of whomever is in power.

And it’s already happening. It’s happening in television, art, fashion and even in video games.

...

Because of the success of GTA V, gamers can no longer be written off as a basement dwelling subculture the way they could when they were busy sharing tactics on 4Chan message boards, worshiping Shephard Fairey and wearing Guy Fawkes masks and they certainly should not be written off by Conservatives. No one on the right has to admire a cult figure like say Julian Assange. You don’t have to agree with his politics or tactics but Assange has a rabid, devoted following. A fringe disenfranchised with 4th amendment abuses and the policies of droning-at-will. When Julian Assange says someone on the right is the only hope for American politics, his followers listen. So should conservatives. This is not a movement clamoring to line up and vote for Hillary Clinton, this is a movement asking to be led.

The Democrats are going to be stuck trying to energize a disengaged youth culture that is watching Ashton Kutchner talk about hard work and Carrie Underwood making fun of Obamacare to thunderous applause while pushing the hip credentials of a senior citizen.

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.

HootTheOwl posted:

Stumbled across this gem today.

:ironicat: begins from the very first sentence.
:cry: Making fun of conservatives is worse than black-face you guys!
I don't think Colbert's caricature represents all conservatives, any more than I think, say, Portlandia represents all liberals, but those people sure as hell are out there, and then some. At the furthest extreme Freepers make Colbert's character look like a hippie.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Ah yes, I can see how someone who thinks GTAV was the breakout moment for nerd culture has their finger on the pulse of the youth.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
No one is hotter right now than Carrie Underwood and Ashton Kutcher.

turnip kid
May 24, 2010
Apparently that Ted Cruz with tattoos poster was an actual depiction of how today's youths view lame dudes in mom jeans. We actually think they're pretty hip and with it. Get out of here, Barack. Health care is totes lame.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
That site has a huge man crush on Rand Paul:

quote:

“WHEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
LOOKS LIKE THE REST OF AMERICA
WE WILL WIN AGAIN.
WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WITH TATTOOS
AND WITHOUT TATTOOS,
WITH TIES AND WITHOUT TIES
WITH SUITS AND IN BLUE JEANS
THEN WE WIN NATIONALLY.”

- SENATOR RAND PAUL

That quote could easily be taken as an admission that the only way the GOP can survive is to move squarely to the center of the political spectrum.

Go to the Trends page and scroll down to see a graph on "Phony Scandals" which includes interest in "Obamacare". Kind of interesting treatment of the issue.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



The true brilliance of the Hope campaign was that critics sound like children's cartoon villains when they criticize it. Those fools will never again dare to 'hope.' Oh no the Carebears!

It's weird that they're still banging the empty suit drum, where '08 Obama was all teleprompters and buzzwords. It's like there was some dissociative disorder where they are unable to parse any events of that year.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

mr. mephistopheles posted:

I don't give two flying fucks if they feel persecuted as long as they aren't vocal with their stupid bullshit. You're not going to change their minds by being their buddy either. The best you can hope for is making their views socially unacceptable, and that's what public shaming does.

I have to agree with this.

Way back in college I offhandedly said something about "Jewing someone down" and got called out on it. I was so embarrassed I never said it again. I also had a black room mate in college and, by extension, several black friends who taught me a few things about subtle (and blatant) racism and the ways that it permeates even if in your heart you don't mean any harm.

Lately I've been "publicly shamed" by a friend for referring to something or someone as "retarded" and have seriously dialed down the use of that word also.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
"The cool are the termites of life."

Jesus Christ.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I still find it funny that not-for-profit political groups whose entire message is "gently caress taxes", "gently caress the IRS" and who literally named their movement after a tax rebellion are aghast at finding themselves singled out for possible tax evasion.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

radical meme posted:

That site has a huge man crush on Rand Paul:


That quote could easily be taken as an admission that the only way the GOP can survive is to move squarely to the center of the political spectrum.

No way in hell the rank and file of the GOP will join the Democrats though.

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

No way in hell the rank and file of the GOP will join the Democrats though.

Eh, it depends. I know plenty of registered moderate Republicans who view the Tea Party as loving bonkers and too far to the right. The only reason most of them don't switch parties is due to either habit, sentiment, or some dumb single issue (usually either gun control, foreign policy, or a refusal to entirely let go of a bootstraps view of poverty).

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Hannity is giving a full hour to this Nevada rancher and he isn't coming off very good.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

ProperGanderPusher posted:

Eh, it depends. I know plenty of registered moderate Republicans who view the Tea Party as loving bonkers and too far to the right. The only reason most of them don't switch parties is due to either habit, sentiment, or some dumb single issue (usually either gun control, foreign policy, or a refusal to entirely let go of a bootstraps view of poverty).

I think a lot of them are looking around and going "well, now what?" I have some conservative family who aren't extreme right that have done nothing but bitch about both parties when politics comes up. They won't go Democrat but they're really, really unhappy with how far to the right the GOP has gone.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

ProperGanderPusher posted:

Eh, it depends. I know plenty of registered moderate Republicans who view the Tea Party as loving bonkers and too far to the right. The only reason most of them don't switch parties is due to either habit, sentiment, or some dumb single issue (usually either gun control, foreign policy, or a refusal to entirely let go of a bootstraps view of poverty).

This is literally every conservative I have ever met. They all cling to the Republican Party as it existed fifty years ago or DEMS WANT ARE GUNS. I don't know how many times I've told someone that the Democrat candidate aligned with like 80-90% of their views and have them just go "but I'm not a Democrat." It's so frustrating.

ReidRansom posted:

Hannity is giving a full hour to this Nevada rancher and he isn't coming off very good.

Funny that a man who has no leg to stand other than generic government opposition looks like a dumb rear end in a top hat. My favorite part of this story is if he was grazing on another person's privately owned land or hell even a land that belonged to a corporation nobody would be backing him up. They don't care about property rights or ownership, they're just hella mad at the government for no reason.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

ReidRansom posted:

Hannity is giving a full hour to this Nevada rancher and he isn't coming off very good.

LOL, only just watch the video of how it started.
gently caress THE TERTLES MA COWS GOTTA FREEDOM TO EAT WHERE THEY WANT!
MA GREAT GRAND PAPPY RAISED COWS HERE THERE FOUR I SHOULD BE ABLE TA

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Makes sense. Republicans want those cows to have more representation than any black people.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Makes sense. Republicans want those cows to have more representation than any black people.

Don't you mean Native Americans, the real owners of that land.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


mr. mephistopheles posted:

This is literally every conservative I have ever met. They all cling to the Republican Party as it existed fifty years ago or DEMS WANT ARE GUNS. I don't know how many times I've told someone that the Democrat candidate aligned with like 80-90% of their views and have them just go "but I'm not a Democrat." It's so frustrating.


Funny that a man who has no leg to stand other than generic government opposition looks like a dumb rear end in a top hat. My favorite part of this story is if he was grazing on another person's privately owned land or hell even a land that belonged to a corporation nobody would be backing him up. They don't care about property rights or ownership, they're just hella mad at the government for no reason.

Yeah, basically. Hannity even tried to lead the guy into saying that he did pay his fees but the guy admitted that he didn't because he doesn't consider the government or their ownership of the land legitimate. Even on a lot of conservative sites I've been reading there are people saying basically what you said right there, he's grazing his cattle illegally and that whether or not they hate the government or believe that it should be able to own that land, as things are now it does and he doesn't get to make up his own rules while so many others elsewhere have to work within the law.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

ReidRansom posted:

Yeah, basically. Hannity even tried to lead the guy into saying that he did pay his fees but the guy admitted that he didn't because he doesn't consider the government or their ownership of the land legitimate. Even on a lot of conservative sites I've been reading there are people saying basically what you said right there, he's grazing his cattle illegally and that whether or not they hate the government or believe that it should be able to own that land, as things are now it does and he doesn't get to make up his own rules while so many others elsewhere have to work within the law.

My guess is that they're trying to spin it as "government gets in the way of hard-working farmer trying to make a living" or something.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

happyhippy posted:

Don't you mean Native Americans, the real owners of that land.

I'm sure that's true but I was joking on the ridiculous gerrymandering of large swaths of farmland and cities all over the nation.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

ToxicSlurpee posted:

My guess is that they're trying to spin it as "government gets in the way of hard-working farmer trying to make a living" or something.

Sort of, it actually is (kinda) their dream case.
The Department of Fish and Wildlife(?) found an endangered animal on public land that he has grazing rights to and said "get rid of the cows, the turtle matters more" and then he stopped paying for the grazing rights and continued to let his cows graze, lost a few court cases and now they're using force to take away the cows.
Naturally, in response to a man who doesn't recognize the federal government as existing they're showing up armed, and arrested his son who video taping something?
Joe Walsh was on about it on Wednesday. God I hate Joe Walsh.

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

Wait - Joe Walsh formerly of the James Gang and the Eagles?

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

MrUnderbridge posted:

Wait - Joe Walsh formerly of the James Gang and the Eagles?

Former Illinois congressman and current deadbeat dad Joe Walsh.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

ToxicSlurpee posted:

My guess is that they're trying to spin it as "government gets in the way of hard-working farmer trying to make a living" or something.

Oh yes, the messaging will be terrifying. "Trespass and steal from the evil federal tyrants, and they'll come for you!....after 15 years of just sending warnings and serially giving you chances to be less of an asshead."

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Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:
If you want something to get all :allears: in anticipation for, apparently Jay Carney has Soviet propaganda posters hanging up in his house
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/04/11/is_that_a_soviet_soldier_on_the_wall_of_the_white_house_press_secretarys_house

Begin the right-wing outrage!

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