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Rasczak posted:Yes I suppose there is some cogent and reasoned thought behind this post but on the other hand gently caress Jeff Ireland Hahaja I knew when I posted it you'd respond. Dude couldn't draft for poo poo that's for sure.
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Eifert Posting posted:Bengals signed 2013 3rd round pick Sam Montgomery.
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Thomas Decoud signs with Carolina Panthers. Strike one role-playing safety off the boards.
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Well that didn't take long: Browns are matching Jacksonville's offer sheet for C Alex Mack. Cleveland keeps Mack, per source.
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Vertical Lime posted:Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter No way Joe Banner would have matched that offer...
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I'd be furious if Miami traded for Brandon graham who is just a backup 4-3 de on Miami. One of the surprises for Miami was how Vernon came alive and has 13 sacks with solid run support. Wake has maybe 1-2 years of high level productivity in him so it's good to have Jordan waiting in the wings. The Eagles are reportedly thinking about or have upped the offer to the 22nd pick and Graham. (Evan Silva writes like he's in the 2nd person reporting in 3rd person) I still want them to keep Dion.
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Since the Eagles originally planned on trying to address that position with the #22 pick anyway, it's probably not the worst use of the pick, although everyone and their dog will know that WR will be their 2nd round choice and teams will be able to navigate around them to scoop up the top guys. So the Eagles will end up having to trade up in the 2nd rd most likely. :X
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I still say hell no. I think Jordan will really emerge as a jason Taylor type player in a few. I love his ability in every facet of defense. Minus run defending but he's working on his upper body strength
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It would be really, extremely weird if the Dolphins gave up on a top 5 pick after one year, I mean I know the Browns did it but running backs shouldn't go top 5 anyway.
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Jesus christ, Trent Richardson was the 3rd pick overall? Somehow I blocked that out of my memory. Although I don't know if it makes it any better thinking Weeden was 3rd overall.
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PantsFreeZone posted:The Eagles are reportedly thinking about or have upped the offer to the 22nd pick and Graham. (Evan Silva writes like he's in the 2nd person reporting in 3rd person) Where do you see this?
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Quest For Glory II posted:Since the Eagles originally planned on trying to address that position with the #22 pick anyway, it's probably not the worst use of the pick, although everyone and their dog will know that WR will be their 2nd round choice and teams will be able to navigate around them to scoop up the top guys. So the Eagles will end up having to trade up in the 2nd rd most likely. :X I think I'd be good with that, and WR is deep enough where they could target it in the third round rather than the second. It may be hard for the Dolphins to pass that up. And if they really are open to trading Jordan, I don't think they are going to find a better deal than that. Miami fans should be bummed if the deal doesn't include an extension for Graham. He's actually really good, much better than his stats show. He just doesn't fit in a 3-4. NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Apr 11, 2014 |
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If we trade Jordan (for a deal that isn't ridiculously in our favor) , I'm loving done.
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Zypher posted:Jesus christ, Trent Richardson was the 3rd pick overall? Somehow I blocked that out of my memory. Although I don't know if it makes it any better thinking Weeden was 3rd overall.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I still say hell no. I think Jordan will really emerge as a jason Taylor type player in a few. Then maybe they should put him at DE. (but they won't because he's too light) TheBizzness posted:If we trade Jordan (for a deal that isn't ridiculously in our favor) , I'm loving done. You've got a 3-4 OLB playing LB in a 4-3 who put up 2 sacks his rookie year. If he was the kind of guy that could get you ridiculous value in a trade the subject of trading him wouldn't have ever come up.
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TheBizzness posted:If we trade Jordan (for a deal that isn't ridiculously in our favor) , I'm loving done. no you're not
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NotWearingPants posted:Then maybe they should put him at DE. (but they won't because he's too light) I've gone over everything with regards to Jordan but I'll just say you're being really dishonest by describing Jordan as simply a rookie rusher who got 2 sacks. Brandon graham is a backup de on Miami. Dion Jordan is stuck behind of one the best des in the league and a 2nd year player who just had double digit sacks In limited snaps Jordan had a very high success rate, including several pass disruptions that directly caused turnovers (2 picks and 1 fumble) Here's a great breakdown by an eagles blogger http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2014/03/dissecting-dion-jordans-2013-season.html Amy Pole Her fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Apr 11, 2014 |
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I've gone over everything with regards to Jordan but I'll just say you're being really dishonest by describing Jordan as simply a rookie rusher who got 2 sacks. That was in response to the idea of receiving "ridiculous value" for him. Jordan has a lot of potential and as a fan I'd love to see the Eagles acquire him. He would fit their new system perfectly and it's a position of need. But there are other factors involved. Yes, he is versatile and can be moved around in the Dolphins defense, but let's say you got the Eagles first round pick (22nd). Would you really be happy if the Dolphins chose a defender that didn't have a position in your base defense? Speaking of picks, one of the reasons it seems so crazy to trade him is that the Dolphins traded up to get him at #3 last year. But this is a different draft. Where would Dion Jordan go this year? He's probably not the first OLB taken (Mack) maybe not even the second (Barr) and whether or not he would be the #2 or #3 OLB, he's not a top 10 pick. It's a deeper draft. I'm not even saying the Dolphins should trade him. But if a new GM thinks he can get more in return than what a player is worth, then I don't think he should feel constrained by what the previous GM did in the draft. AAA DOLFAN posted:Here's a great breakdown by an eagles blogger http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2014/03/dissecting-dion-jordans-2013-season.html Yeah, I posted that link earlier. NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Apr 12, 2014 |
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Ya know, I've talked myself out of it. Previous offer rescinded. Vinny Curry and a 4th round pick in 2015, final offer.
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I'd like to see the Dolphins move Misi to MLB and play Jordan at the WLB with Ellerbe at the SLB.
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I don't really see how Dion Jordan is going to be misused or miscast in the Dolphins defense, 4-3 or not. He's a base package defensive end who can pretty much do whatever you want in sub packages: http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2014/03/dissecting-dion-jordans-2013-season-part-2-outside-linebacker.html You've basically got to create a pretty unique role to use Dion Jordan "correctly". Your typical 3-4 OLB role is just as big of a waste when a guy is doing Brian Urlacher-style deep drops down the middle of the field. The guy gets his poo poo together in run defense and masters another pass rush move or two and he's a big loving deal. I'd love to see him pick up Jason Taylor's long-arm move. Hamhandler fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Apr 12, 2014 |
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NWP it already came up but almost everyone asked said Jordan hs a top 10 pick this year ahead of Barr
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NotWearingPants posted:
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Why are there so many rumors surrounding Jordan? He's a goddamn freak athlete who's played all of one year. He didn't go top 5 for loving nothing. Trading him for anything would be the dumbest thing. It's not like he's Trent Richardson.
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Volkerball posted:Why are there so many rumors surrounding Jordan? He's a goddamn freak athlete who's played all of one year. He didn't go top 5 for loving nothing. Trading him for anything would be the dumbest thing. It's not like he's Trent Richardson. Evan Silva hates Miami so whenever Florio or whoever throws out the tiniest smidgeon of a rumor that he can use to say they don't know what they are doing, he jumps all over it. Earlier they were spreading the story that Wallace was being shopped during the offseason but now everyone in the know, is saying that is 0% true. It is what it is.
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Volkerball posted:Why are there so many rumors surrounding Jordan? He's a goddamn freak athlete who's played all of one year. He didn't go top 5 for loving nothing. Trading him for anything would be the dumbest thing. It's not like he's Trent Richardson. They're probably just hoping the Falcons will trade the #6 pick for Dion Jordan, so they can go get Manziel. 
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Miami said over and over he's not for sale but it's off season
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Eifert Posting posted:Bengals signed 2013 3rd round pick Sam Montgomery. While I did wish him well on the Texans. This makes me happy because they're my AFC rooting interest. He was great for us at LSU. Bengals Vs. Browns will also mean more Mingo and Montgomery buddy interactions. 
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Mirohan posted:While I did wish him well on the Texans. This makes me happy because they're my AFC rooting interest. He was great for us at LSU. Bengals Vs. Browns will also mean more Mingo and Montgomery buddy interactions. Betting on the game maybe
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Atticus Finch posted:Montgomery probably won't make the final roster. Yeah he's probably going to end up competing with and likely losing to Geathers for a roster spot that may not even exist after they likely draft a lineman. I'm fairly certain he's practice squad eligible though so he will stick around if he shows anything at all.
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What's the deal with Brandon Lloyd? Why didn't he ever become a perennial pro bowl WR? Seems like he's always had the talent to do so but just never did.
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His quarterbacks before Tom Brady and Kyle Orton included Alex Smith, Tim Rattay, Ken Dorsey, Cody Pickett, end-career Mark Brunell, and a couple of games of Tim Tebow and Rex Grossman sprinkled in
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There's also, you know, stuff like this
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Spoeank posted:There's also, you know, stuff like this The throw is to Lloyd but it's slightly behind him and it has such a high arc for a 5 yard pass that it lands 7 yards beyond him
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Quest For Glory II posted:His quarterbacks before Tom Brady and Kyle Orton included Alex Smith, Tim Rattay, Ken Dorsey, Cody Pickett, end-career Mark Brunell, and a couple of games of Tim Tebow and Rex Grossman sprinkled in So why didn't the 9ers or Broncos resign him? You don't get rid of a stud WR because his QB sucks. Spoeank posted:There's also, you know, stuff like this Yea but seriously, it's one gently caress up compared to the countless times he's bailed out trash QBs.
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John Brown posted:So why didn't the 9ers or Broncos resign him? You don't get rid of a stud WR because his QB sucks. He only had one really good season, and it wasn't a contract year. Then he got hurt and looked bad, and then he went to the Rams on a one year deal iirc, and didn't show anything. I don't know why the Broncos let him walk, but whatever, it's not like they needed him.
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