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I know we don't know the exact numbers of the contact and blah blah, but that seems like the Jets sort of spent a lot of money for Chris Johnson, no? Is it safe to assume that they plan on using him as their feature back?
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Burger Trench posted:I know we don't know the exact numbers of the contact and blah blah, but that seems like the Jets sort of spent a lot of money for Chris Johnson, no? Is it safe to assume that they plan on using him as their feature back? Who cares about the money, they have more cap room then they can possibly use since all the good FA's have signed already.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:01
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Oh yeah? Well the Bengals signed T.J. Conley. How's about that?!
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Apr 16, 2014 22:06
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It's the highest APY of the FA RBs but FA RBs are also just outpacing kickers this offseason so they're still dirt cheap. I will assume Chris Ivory is still the primary back although it could form into a true tandem.code:
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Apr 16, 2014 22:08
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Parmesan Basil posted:To win is to not post. To win is to continually poo poo on your own team 
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Apr 16, 2014 22:17
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mcmagic posted:Who cares about the money, they have more cap room then they can possibly use since all the good FA's have signed already. i agree with this mcmagic post actually. it's always funny when people complain about the amount of a deal when teams have a lot of space and no massive free agents out there to sign.
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If Rashad Jennings had a longer track record, he probably could've commanded 5 after Johnson's deal came out. At 2.5 he could be a loving bargain for the Giants, but he could also suck.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:18
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Volkerball posted:If Rashad Jennings had a longer track record, he probably could've commanded 5 after Johnson's deal came out. At 2.5 he could be a loving bargain for the Giants, but he could also suck. But at 2.5 who cares if he sucks
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Apr 16, 2014 22:21
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Nobody, but that's why he got 2.5 to begin with, even though he's coming off like 7 straight 100 yard games or w/e.
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Rex Ryan sits idly in the background, nods.quote:Despite the success Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos have been having, Darrelle Revis isn't quite so sure their read-option offense can succeed for a full NFL season. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82429557/article/revis-broncos-offense-could-work-with-vick-cj2k-not-tebow
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Apr 16, 2014 22:28
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I don't think you can be mad at signing Chris Johnson at just over what Donald Brown makes. FA RBs really sucked this year if 2013 Chris Johnson is far and away the best.
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shiksa posted:I don't think you can be mad at signing Chris Johnson at just over what Donald Brown makes. Uhh excuse me one Mr. Toby Gerhart would like to disagree.
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So the Jets are also interested in Sidney Rice Now I see the plan
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Apr 16, 2014 23:31
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Jets hired a reincarnated Al Davis
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mcmagic posted:Except it had nothing to do with injuries. Those rookies were starting out of training camp. Eh, No. Trufant was starting out of training camp, but Alford was backing up until age caught up with Asante Samuel (and he got hurt in week 2). Worrilow was getting snaps, but not starting (if I remember correctly), but Bierman (week... loving 2) and Weatherspoon going down pretty much guaranteed he was the starter for the rest of the season. Bartu was starting at Will LB, about halfway through the season. Patrick Dimarco, UDFA FB started for the rest of the year after the starter got his shoulder separated in week 2 (the starter was so lovely and always hurt, I don't even know his name because gently caress him). Week 2 was 1 of only 4 wins all year, but it sucked. So many starters were lost for the year or for significant time in that game. I could look all of this up, but of course...  That and I watched every loving god awful game of last season. And I'm pretty sure this is how it went down.
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shiksa posted:I don't think you can be mad at signing Chris Johnson at just over what Donald Brown makes. He wasn't, though. Not clear cut at least. I completely agree running back is a position you don't need a superstar and it seems like a waste to be Honest. It appears Miami has zero interest paying a guy 5 mil a year to run it. Bush would be here otherwise
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Vertical Lime posted:So the Jets are also interested in Sidney Rice I'd rather believe this is them desperately grasping at anything that's left realizing they missed out on everything else, because otherwise this was their actual plan all along and they're stupider than we thought.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:He wasn't, though. Not clear cut at least. Is this a serious post? There are several superstar running backs who help keep their teams relevant. Of course it's not necessary to have them, but their definitely not a waste(excluding Minnesota). Up until last year Matt Forte was the Bears' offense. Jamaal Charles took that role this past season. AP just needs a Matt Cassel to start for a full season to get his team to the playoffs, and the Seahawks offense would be the worst in the league without Marshawn Lynch.
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Rice would be pretty good value camp signing. I can't imagine he'd be guaranteed a roster spot if they're at all planning on drafting a WR.
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you made my point for me actually. Marshawn Lynch is good but he's not a superstar. Other positions warrant the money and picks not running back. At all. Average is enough to win a Super Bowl. It's been beaten to death throughout the thread tho so no point rehashing old arguments. You're picking teams that are far far from a superbowl, to be honest. KC and Minnesota have no real chance unless they upgrade everything else. Seattle's success was much more their defense than their offense. Im not sure using Lynch was a great idea. Hint: Look at his superbowl stats Amy Pole Her fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Apr 17, 2014 00:05
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Rice hasn't been healthy for a while, but why would people be so down on the Jets signing him? He's a phenomenal talent and was playing well until his recent injury. It seems to me to be a low-risk, high-reward type move.
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Rice announces 1 year deal with Seahawks while taking his Jets physical. Ha.
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Atticus Finch posted:Oh yeah? Well the Bengals signed T.J. Conley. How's about that?! When you got 24 million in cap room sometimes you just have to lay the boom. You know, once Mike Brown finds yet another excuse for not paying it.
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I'm not hugely bummed about Rice, but it would've been cool if he was on my team again. Hopefully this means we'll be going all-in on drafting a couple WRs.
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Ozu posted:Rice announces 1 year deal with Seahawks while taking his Jets physical. Ha. Oh boy that's awkward. edit: I hope his phone buzzed while the trainers were working with him and he just silently got up and walked out of the facility. quote:@DangeRussWilson 13m He even types like my 67 year old dad. Schwack fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Apr 17, 2014 01:07
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0 in Guarantees for CJ1K in 2015.
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Schwack posted:Oh boy that's awkward. I really really hope he did something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_wy8ebqKbA
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Schwack posted:Oh boy that's awkward. Holla! With Tate gone I'm sure glad to have some continuity with receivers. Odds are we will have at least one week where Rice, Harvin, and Baldwin are all injured too!
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mcmagic posted:0 in Guarantees for CJ1K in 2015. Yeah but Idzik let him leave the facility yesterday
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AAA DOLFAN posted:you made my point for me actually. Marshawn Lynch is good but he's not a superstar. Other positions warrant the money and picks not running back. At all. Lol. When a run first, good defense team wins the Super Bowl, it's all on the defense. When a good defense pass first team wins the Super Bowl, it's a ~passing league~. The bottom line is that teams like the Texans and Seahawks who don't have a top 5 quarterback can still be legitimate Super Bowl contenders by running the ball. You personally don't value a good running back. That's it. You can have a lovely qb if you have a good line, receivers, and oc. You can have lovely DT's if you have good pass rushing ends and MLB's who can shut down the middle. On and on and on. That doesn't make good players at those positions expendable or worthless, especially for teams who'd schemes value guys like that. The bottom line is that guys like McCoy, Forte, Foster, Rice, AP, etc can add a lot to make teams competitive for championships, and if you think you can get that guy, loving go for it. Lol the Broncos could beat the Vikings and look at Lynch's Super Bowl stats doesn't really change that.
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Schwack posted:So he's Brian Russell? Most famous for his attempted butt tackle that I can't find a loving picture of anymore but god he sucked. This was like 5 pages ago, but oh my god gently caress Brian Russell
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Volkerball posted:Lol. When a run first, good defense team wins the Super Bowl, it's all on the defense. When a good defense pass first team wins the Super Bowl, it's a ~passing league~. The bottom line is that teams like the Texans and Seahawks who don't have a top 5 quarterback can still be legitimate Super Bowl contenders by running the ball. You personally don't value a good running back. That's it. You can have a lovely qb if you have a good line, receivers, and oc. You can have lovely DT's if you have good pass rushing ends and MLB's who can shut down the middle. On and on and on. That doesn't make good players at those positions expendable or worthless, especially for teams who'd schemes value guys like that. The bottom line is that guys like McCoy, Forte, Foster, Rice, AP, etc can add a lot to make teams competitive for championships, and if you think you can get that guy, loving go for it. Lol the Broncos could beat the Vikings and look at Lynch's Super Bowl stats doesn't really change that. Wow this is just dripping with smug. What's the point after something like that?
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I think KC would have had a chance to win it all last year if Charles didn't go down. Things kinda went nuts in the playoff game but Smith was going haaaaaaaam. Actually not just losing Charles but also they lost their backup back too. It was just bad luck.
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Volkerball posted:Lol. When a run first, good defense team wins the Super Bowl, it's all on the defense. When a good defense pass first team wins the Super Bowl, it's a ~passing league~. The bottom line is that teams like the Texans and Seahawks who don't have a top 5 quarterback can still be legitimate Super Bowl contenders by running the ball. You personally don't value a good running back. That's it. You can have a lovely qb if you have a good line, receivers, and oc. You can have lovely DT's if you have good pass rushing ends and MLB's who can shut down the middle. On and on and on. That doesn't make good players at those positions expendable or worthless, especially for teams who'd schemes value guys like that. The bottom line is that guys like McCoy, Forte, Foster, Rice, AP, etc can add a lot to make teams competitive for championships, and if you think you can get that guy, loving go for it. Lol the Broncos could beat the Vikings and look at Lynch's Super Bowl stats doesn't really change that. What does a pass first good D team look like? I can't really think of one.
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The Eagles in 2004. e: For a more recent example, the Steelers in 2011 when Bruce Arians ran the offense. Top 10 passing offense #1 defense They lost though. But that Super Bowl was two high-powered passing attacks. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Any San Fran team in the 80s or 90s, wasn't Green Bay kind of decent on defense the year they won?
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Quest For Glory II posted:The Eagles in 2004. This is true, though I don't know anyone that discounted the D's contribution.
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Quest For Glory II posted:I think KC would have had a chance to win it all last year if Charles didn't go down. Things kinda went nuts in the playoff game but Smith was going haaaaaaaam. Actually not just losing Charles but also they lost their backup back too. It was just bad luck. Smith funslinging in that game was pretty awesome. The dude started playing like the Saints playoff game from a few years back. CharlestheHammer posted:What does a pass first good D team look like? The 2010-2011 Packers had a pretty good D if I recall correctly. Sour Diesel fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Grittybeard posted:Any San Fran team in the 80s or 90s, wasn't Green Bay kind of decent on defense the year they won? Yup, every Niners championship team was stacked on defense. Ronnie Lott, Hacksaw Reynolds,, the list goes on.
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